New Look BRISKODA

Mort · 12-10-2008, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

If you design a better button set thats more fitting we will certainly consider them, PM me if you want to have a go and ill send you the current set. The font on the buttons is the same as the site.

If the font is the same then it's missing some Anti-Aliasing:

Will PM you for the set and see if I can do anything you like

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

With regards to the font, i can clearly see the difference even in your screenshot!!

I can see the difference, I'm just agreeing with people who say it's not as obvious as it is with the previous font. I'd consider removing the underline from viewed topic links, if it were my design. A bit counter-intuitive from an accessibility point of view, but would reinforce the difference maybe?

**mannyo** · 12-10-2008, 18:01

Why remove the underline, in the whole web they identify things to click on and I dont think its even possible because hyperlinks are always underlined.

As posted by Alex, I can see a difference between bold and normal on my monitor and also its quiet obvious in the screenshot you posted earlier.

Loz · 12-10-2008, 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

No issues here on my 24" 1920x1200 monitor under windows vista

Believe it or not you aren't the only person to have a 24" monitor. On mine the bold really isn't that dicernable.

fatty5000 · 12-10-2008, 18:41

I hate too say it but I'm struggling a little with the bold thing. But as you may know I'm colour blind which probably doesn't help one bit. No need to change it be cause I moaned though

Mort · 12-10-2008, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

Why remove the underline, in the whole web they identify things to click on and I dont think its even possible because hyperlinks are always underlined.

It's quite easy to remove. One line of CSS code and all of about 6 seconds. But yes, the accessibility issue is one I did mention - Though in a presentation I'd counter that by saying that for it to not be underlined you must have clicked on it once, and also know how the forum works already. And therefore why do you need to stick to convention? It'd be a very shallow learning curve for everyone. Also, you would (technically) rarely need to re-read a thread that has been read by yourself before so not initially identifying it as a hyperlink wouldn't be a huge issue.

But, yeah. I only said I'd do it. Not that it's a good idea

digitaldwarf · 12-10-2008, 20:20

im sorry but im not too keen on the new colour scheme
its a bit sore on my eyes
and the freedome member dont stand out as much

just my opinion

Lady Elanore · 12-10-2008, 22:53

I’m running a 1920 x 1200 17” monitor and the difference between page numbers seems fine. Can we have the multi quote button back again please?

cheezemonkhai · 13-10-2008, 00:07

Not a fan of the light green background, but otherwise on first glance it doesn't seem too painful.

Will have a proper look when I'm more alive.

Fluffy Bunny · 13-10-2008, 09:51

I'm sorry I can't stand the green - looks like the kind of colour they use in town hall toilets.

yegnold · 13-10-2008, 10:09

Bug:

On search engine results pages.

On page 1, the page counter reads:

Page 1 of 10 1 2 3 4 ..etc

On page 2, the page counter then reads:

Page 2 of 5 < 1 2 3 4 5

So on page one, I have 25 results per page. ON page 2, I suddenly have 50 results per page.

To reproduce:

In your forum preferences, set "Number of posts per page" to "Forum Default"
Now click "todays posts" in the quick links menu.
Take note of the page numbers. Now click page 2, and note that the number of pages and results per page immediately changes

Tom_vRS · 13-10-2008, 10:18

After using the new theme a bit more intesively...

1) The font really isn't as readable as the old one. Looks nice and modern, but definitely harder on my eyes. I like it for everything other than actual post text, its nice for the userinfo etc.

2) The bold doesn't stand out at all on both my monitors - is there an easy way the bold could be made bolder?

3) I like the buttons, but agree the font needs tweaking, it certainly isn't the same as the rest of it.

Otherwise Alex, don't be disheartened!! Overall I think it is excellent, and a really fresh modern appearance. Personally I like the colours, the new layout etc, all ace. Just a few tweaks to make for it to be perfect for me!

yegnold · 13-10-2008, 11:36

I'd agree with the general feedback of the font. I really liked the old font on Briskoda 2008 - it was clear on both 1024x768 and 1280x1024 resolutions. It was what I'd call perfect on my 1440 x (something) screen I've got at home.

I don't think it would hurt to:

- Have post text use the same font as Briskoda 2008
- Have everything else in the new style font, as Tom_vRS said.

I'd agree with Tom on the disheartened front too - I'm very pleased with the new look and am especially a fan of the buttons on the primary navigation. My feedback here is intended as constructive criticism and not a "petition against change" - I really, really like the new look

Fluffy Bunny · 13-10-2008, 11:52

I agree with the fonts being too small and blurry and that's with my contacts in.
Just had a look on one of the small monitors (10.4") that I have to use when I'm at sea and it seems clearer!!!!

Loz · 13-10-2008, 16:21

I don't think the fonts are blurry - small, but not blurry. It's just the bold. I used to be able to see at a glance if a thread had a new post in it, now I'm squinting at it thinking 'is that bold??' Just a bit annoying.

Conshine · 13-10-2008, 21:58

I really like the new look, the colour is good.

Yup, looks fine on my laptop.

Well done, thanks for the effort you have put into it.

Wardy · 13-10-2008, 22:21

Well done for the amount of effort you've put into this Alex

For me, I'd prefer a slightly clearer font too. Also regards the light green background, that surrounds the posts down each side when viewing; it's a bit too visible in my peripheral vision for my liking and is a bit distracting (on a 22" widescreen).

But overall, an improved, fresher look that I like....

Steve

gillywibble · 13-10-2008, 22:33

I prefer the old font. I'm also not keen on the darker green for each post header.

I do like the general green colour though. Have you tried the old post header blue with the new green?

auditek · 13-10-2008, 23:58

i like it..it looks very fresh and clean

KTP · 14-10-2008, 00:28

i dunno, not sure about it.
will run with it to see if i get used to it, if its going to be permanant i'd suggest using a couple of shades darker green for freedom usernames.
also as others have said, the fonts a tad straining on the eyes at times. especially the forum links such as....
BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums > Announcements, News, Introductions and Rules > Announcements > New Look BRISKODA

Tom_vRS · 14-10-2008, 07:04

The bug regarding posts per page is doing my head in! Say you hit new posts, up comes 8 pages with 25 posts per page. Hit page 2 and there are 50 messages per page and only 4 pages, so you have to go back to page one to get posts 25 to 50...

**mannyo** · 14-10-2008, 08:32

Strange, I have 50 per page on every page. I hit new posts and get 500 back (10 pages of 50).

swedishskoda · 14-10-2008, 09:45

New font: Don't know yet how it looks on a bigger screen but on my 9" laptop I would say that it's more readable than the old one.

The three nuances of green, though... the background (lavatory green) is horrid, the other two are OK in themselves but IMHO don't fit together, the one being yellowish and the other blueish.

Overall impression good, and Alex has made an impressive job

Tom_vRS · 14-10-2008, 10:20

Just to show I'm not going mad!

apinner · 14-10-2008, 11:09

Just to clear a few things up, the posts per page thing is nothing to do with the theme or me, i believe its a setting Colin changed before he went on hols.

Also, unless you work with vbulletin its hard to understand what can be done with it. Some things are very easy where as other changes can prove extremely difficult so some of the requests that are being made are never going to happen just because of the complexity (i just don't have time). I will look into an alternative for the font, i may just increase its size in certain areas to see if it improves things as i really like the Trebuchet font.

Concerning the mint green that so many of you don't seem to like, as Colin said in his second post there are already plans for alternative colours so just sit tight.

The button font thing i am a bit confused about, simply because none of the fonts on the page have any anti aliasing and if you add it to the text on the buttons it looks out of place (i tried it already).

The issue with username colours i have no control over, its something that only Colin can set and thus has never changed. I am also puzzled at the comment that freedom members dont stand out any more.. normal members are very dark grey, freedom are bright green and admin/mods are red, where is the confusion?

Some of you are going to have to like it or lump it though i am afraid, its an impossible task to please everyone so i am not even going to try. I will take on board and consider all constructive criticism but simply stating you don't like it wont get you any where.

yegnold · 14-10-2008, 11:15

Alex, if you or Colin need any help customising the Briskoda theme let me know - I've worked with vBulletin before and fully understand how much of a biotch it is to skin

12-10-2008, 18:01	#52
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,605 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 60 Thanked 390 Times in 359 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA Why remove the underline, in the whole web they identify things to click on and I dont think its even possible because hyperlinks are always underlined. As posted by Alex, I can see a difference between bold and normal on my monitor and also its quiet obvious in the screenshot you posted earlier. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

12-10-2008, 18:41	#54
fatty5000 Why So Serious Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: "What" ...What ain't no god damn country Posts: 5,798 Members Car: a car Thanks: 286 Thanked 213 Times in 193 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I hate too say it but I'm struggling a little with the bold thing. But as you may know I'm colour blind which probably doesn't help one bit. No need to change it be cause I moaned though __________________

12-10-2008, 20:20	#56
digitaldwarf QRP Sucks Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: falkirk Posts: 290 Members Car: silver vrs Thanks: 18 Thanked 28 Times in 26 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA im sorry but im not too keen on the new colour scheme its a bit sore on my eyes and the freedome member dont stand out as much just my opinion __________________ I'M FAT FOLICALY CHALANGED FORTY-SOMETHING FIFTEEN STONE BLOKE CALLED NEIL 179 cuddys under the bunnet with built in colonic irigation watch this space when you get bored watching this space you can do something else

12-10-2008, 22:53	#57
Lady Elanore Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 11,148 Members Car: . Thanks: 222 Thanked 231 Times in 140 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I’m running a 1920 x 1200 17” monitor and the difference between page numbers seems fine. Can we have the multi quote button back again please?

13-10-2008, 00:07	#58
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,818 Members Car: Thanks: 137 Thanked 546 Times in 499 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA Not a fan of the light green background, but otherwise on first glance it doesn't seem too painful. Will have a proper look when I'm more alive. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

13-10-2008, 09:51	#59
Fluffy Bunny Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Aberdeen Posts: 533 Members Car: Maserati Quattroporte V8 Sport GT Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I'm sorry I can't stand the green - looks like the kind of colour they use in town hall toilets. __________________ Heather

13-10-2008, 10:18	#61
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,738 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 724 Thanked 451 Times in 328 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA After using the new theme a bit more intesively... 1) The font really isn't as readable as the old one. Looks nice and modern, but definitely harder on my eyes. I like it for everything other than actual post text, its nice for the userinfo etc. 2) The bold doesn't stand out at all on both my monitors - is there an easy way the bold could be made bolder? 3) I like the buttons, but agree the font needs tweaking, it certainly isn't the same as the rest of it. Otherwise Alex, don't be disheartened!! Overall I think it is excellent, and a really fresh modern appearance. Personally I like the colours, the new layout etc, all ace. Just a few tweaks to make for it to be perfect for me! __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

13-10-2008, 11:52	#63
Fluffy Bunny Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London/Aberdeen Posts: 533 Members Car: Maserati Quattroporte V8 Sport GT Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I agree with the fonts being too small and blurry and that's with my contacts in. Just had a look on one of the small monitors (10.4") that I have to use when I'm at sea and it seems clearer!!!! __________________ Heather

13-10-2008, 16:21	#64
Loz Bad Loz!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: here..................... sometimes there........ Posts: 7,156 Members Car: LTD Edition Fabia VRS Thanks: 41 Thanked 222 Times in 74 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I don't think the fonts are blurry - small, but not blurry. It's just the bold. I used to be able to see at a glance if a thread had a new post in it, now I'm squinting at it thinking 'is that bold??' Just a bit annoying. __________________ Lorraine- AKA Loz, Lozkins, Lozza, Lozzy, Lozlet, Lozzette, Lozzle, Lozley, Lozraine, Lozalot, Lozatron, Lozatronic, Lozatroonathoone, Lozlatina, Loztalot, Lozingtonrain, Lozinator, Lozenge, Lozenger, Lozmanaught, Lozzy Loo, Lozzybear, Lozzy-wozzy-dooh-dah-day, () CouLoz of the rainbow, Lozano, Lozvaldo, Lorraineo, Lorrainickle, Lorrainus, Lez, Lezkins, Randomer & Mizz LB Can't change the way I am, sexy, naughty, bitchy!

13-10-2008, 21:58	#65
Conshine Ho Ho Ho Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ashford, Kent Posts: 1,944 Members Car: Silver Fabia vRS Thanks: 104 Thanked 59 Times in 59 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I really like the new look, the colour is good. Yup, looks fine on my laptop. Well done, thanks for the effort you have put into it. __________________ Ben

13-10-2008, 22:21	#66
Wardy Broken :( Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 11,852 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 471 Thanked 383 Times in 370 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA Well done for the amount of effort you've put into this Alex For me, I'd prefer a slightly clearer font too. Also regards the light green background, that surrounds the posts down each side when viewing; it's a bit too visible in my peripheral vision for my liking and is a bit distracting (on a 22" widescreen). But overall, an improved, fresher look that I like.... Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen "If in doubt, flat out." - Colin McRae

13-10-2008, 22:33	#67
gillywibble Cuthbert Dibble Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Watching Tom peeping at Lady Godiva. Posts: 7,601 Members Car: Octavia Elegance 2.0 Tdi Thanks: 233 Thanked 289 Times in 242 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA I prefer the old font. I'm also not keen on the darker green for each post header. I do like the general green colour though. Have you tried the old post header blue with the new green? __________________ I drink, therefore I spam.

13-10-2008, 23:58	#68
auditek Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 136 Members Car: Thanks: 12 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA i like it..it looks very fresh and clean __________________ Octavia VRS DSG, black magic,18" zeniths, climate control,cruise, maxidot,jumbo box, columbus mfd

14-10-2008, 00:28	#69
KTP eeeeeeeeevil. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 1,501 Members Car: Thanks: 30 Thanked 55 Times in 52 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA i dunno, not sure about it. will run with it to see if i get used to it, if its going to be permanant i'd suggest using a couple of shades darker green for freedom usernames. also as others have said, the fonts a tad straining on the eyes at times. especially the forum links such as.... BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums > Announcements, News, Introductions and Rules > Announcements > New Look BRISKODA __________________

14-10-2008, 07:04	#70
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,738 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 724 Thanked 451 Times in 328 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA The bug regarding posts per page is doing my head in! Say you hit new posts, up comes 8 pages with 25 posts per page. Hit page 2 and there are 50 messages per page and only 4 pages, so you have to go back to page one to get posts 25 to 50... __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

14-10-2008, 08:32	#71
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,605 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 60 Thanked 390 Times in 359 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA Strange, I have 50 per page on every page. I hit new posts and get 500 back (10 pages of 50). __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

14-10-2008, 09:45	#72
swedishskoda Briskadoodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,182 Members Car: Felly Estate 1.6 LXi 1998 Thanks: 62 Thanked 193 Times in 164 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA New font: Don't know yet how it looks on a bigger screen but on my 9" laptop I would say that it's more readable than the old one. The three nuances of green, though... the background (lavatory green) is horrid, the other two are OK in themselves but IMHO don't fit together, the one being yellowish and the other blueish. Overall impression good, and Alex has made an impressive job __________________ It's feral ! It's fervid! It's a Felicia!

14-10-2008, 11:09	#74
apinner f.f.f..freezing Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 2,085 Members Car: Mk1 Octavia vRS Images: 8 Thanks: 68 Thanked 135 Times in 70 Posts	Re: New Look BRISKODA Just to clear a few things up, the posts per page thing is nothing to do with the theme or me, i believe its a setting Colin changed before he went on hols. Also, unless you work with vbulletin its hard to understand what can be done with it. Some things are very easy where as other changes can prove extremely difficult so some of the requests that are being made are never going to happen just because of the complexity (i just don't have time). I will look into an alternative for the font, i may just increase its size in certain areas to see if it improves things as i really like the Trebuchet font. Concerning the mint green that so many of you don't seem to like, as Colin said in his second post there are already plans for alternative colours so just sit tight. The button font thing i am a bit confused about, simply because none of the fonts on the page have any anti aliasing and if you add it to the text on the buttons it looks out of place (i tried it already). The issue with username colours i have no control over, its something that only Colin can set and thus has never changed. I am also puzzled at the comment that freedom members dont stand out any more.. normal members are very dark grey, freedom are bright green and admin/mods are red, where is the confusion? Some of you are going to have to like it or lump it though i am afraid, its an impossible task to please everyone so i am not even going to try. I will take on board and consider all constructive criticism but simply stating you don't like it wont get you any where. __________________ . Alex . Briskoda.net Blog