New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140

dervdoctor · 13-07-2007, 09:30

BSR have launched a few new Skoda applications for the PPC units, the unit allows the car to be tuned and then reverted to back to standard in minutes by you the customer.

New applications include:-

Fabia VRS:- 165 bhp and 270 ft-lb

PD140 Octy 2 etc. 171 bhp and 275 fl-lb

Is PPC the same thing as a ”diesel-box”?
For those of you interested in technology we can tell that the PPC technology differs totally from all so called "diesel boxes" on the market. With PPC you get a diesel optimisation in all senses, because we optimise the software of the engine instead of mounting boxes and flexes in the engine compartment that distort some signals in order to increase the amount of fuel. Our diesel tuning is just as advanced and sophisticated as our petrol tuning!

A ”diesel box” deceives the control system of the car
In a modern car there are complex control systems that cooperate with each other to make everything work perfectly. A ”diesel box” manipulates some signals in order to either increase the injection time or fuel pressure (that is the only thing a diesel box can manage to do). Unfortunately this manipulation is done entirely without the control system’s knowledge. This means that a diesel box ”deceives” the control system of the car and the consequence is that a large amount of values and control data will be incorrect:

- on board computer shows too low fuel consumption
- anti skid program (ESP) is disturbed because of incorrect torque value
- automatic gearboxes get incorrect torque value
- torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is not retained
- regeneration (emptying) of particle filter will not be optimal
- calculation of exhaust temperature is disturbed
- calculation of service interval is disturbed
- diagnostic system is disturbed

Real diesel optimisation
If you want to tune your diesel car and still keep the car’s safety and durability functions for the engine/transmission/ESP etc intact, the only way to tune a diesel car is to make changes in the existing control system of the engine. That is exactly what we are doing with the PPC. With PPC we have total control over all parameters at any moment, and we don’t disturb the safety functions of the car by deceiving the system.

Apart from an obvious power and torque increase you get the following advantages with PPC Tuning System:

- tuning is installed in 5 minutes without lifting the hood
- no loose boxes and flexes in the engine compartment
- torque comes soft and smooth
- torque is adjusted/limited on lower gears (to avoid damage on the transmission)
- boost pressure and air flow is optimized
- reinstall original settings takes only 5 minutes
- on board computer shows correct fuel consumption
- anti skid program (ESP) function is fully retained
- torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is retained
- regeneration (emptying) of particle filter is retained optimal
- correct calculation of exhaust temperature
- correct calculation of service interval
- diagnostic system is retained
- no enlarged NOx emissions compared with original when driving in regulated emission tests

Dr Zoidberg · 13-07-2007, 09:38

You missed the important thing - price

AlexMechanic · 13-07-2007, 10:42

Does this allow two maps to be switched between? I am interested in the technology, but not the tuning itself as I have a tuner. I could just do with the convenience of switchable maps - one clean like I have now, and then a dirty one for track / competition use.

PS: This is Jason, devonutopia on another account.

**VRStu** · 13-07-2007, 10:53

I don't think it would Jason. The switching technology is normally built into the software.

thephm · 13-07-2007, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexMechanic

Does this allow two maps to be switched between? I am interested in the technology, but not the tuning itself as I have a tuner. I could just do with the convenience of switchable maps - one clean like I have now, and then a dirty one for track / competition use.

PS: This is Jason, devonutopia on another account.

Looking at the BRS homepage it is just another device like the AMD one click.

**VRStu** · 13-07-2007, 11:19

J I'll PM you so as not to take this thread off topic.

dervdoctor · 13-07-2007, 14:42

its a reversable re-map, not switchable. BSR Spend around 3 months testing each car and usually buy one of car to do development and long term testing on.

They also do development work for the swedish government on bio fuels etc.

Sorry the RRP Price is £525 plus VAT, but we can do them for £495 plus VAT at min.

dervdoctor · 03-08-2007, 11:25

BTT, Remember BSR also do some really good FSi-T software!!

13-07-2007, 09:30	#1
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 BSR have launched a few new Skoda applications for the PPC units, the unit allows the car to be tuned and then reverted to back to standard in minutes by you the customer. New applications include:- Fabia VRS:- 165 bhp and 270 ft-lb PD140 Octy 2 etc. 171 bhp and 275 fl-lb Is PPC the same thing as a ”diesel-box”? For those of you interested in technology we can tell that the PPC technology differs totally from all so called "diesel boxes" on the market. With PPC you get a diesel optimisation in all senses, because we optimise the software of the engine instead of mounting boxes and flexes in the engine compartment that distort some signals in order to increase the amount of fuel. Our diesel tuning is just as advanced and sophisticated as our petrol tuning! A ”diesel box” deceives the control system of the car In a modern car there are complex control systems that cooperate with each other to make everything work perfectly. A ”diesel box” manipulates some signals in order to either increase the injection time or fuel pressure (that is the only thing a diesel box can manage to do). Unfortunately this manipulation is done entirely without the control system’s knowledge. This means that a diesel box ”deceives” the control system of the car and the consequence is that a large amount of values and control data will be incorrect: - on board computer shows too low fuel consumption - anti skid program (ESP) is disturbed because of incorrect torque value - automatic gearboxes get incorrect torque value - torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is not retained - regeneration (emptying) of particle filter will not be optimal - calculation of exhaust temperature is disturbed - calculation of service interval is disturbed - diagnostic system is disturbed Real diesel optimisation If you want to tune your diesel car and still keep the car’s safety and durability functions for the engine/transmission/ESP etc intact, the only way to tune a diesel car is to make changes in the existing control system of the engine. That is exactly what we are doing with the PPC. With PPC we have total control over all parameters at any moment, and we don’t disturb the safety functions of the car by deceiving the system. Apart from an obvious power and torque increase you get the following advantages with PPC Tuning System: - tuning is installed in 5 minutes without lifting the hood - no loose boxes and flexes in the engine compartment - torque comes soft and smooth - torque is adjusted/limited on lower gears (to avoid damage on the transmission) - boost pressure and air flow is optimized - reinstall original settings takes only 5 minutes - on board computer shows correct fuel consumption - anti skid program (ESP) function is fully retained - torque reduction when shifting gear (for comfort and durability) is retained - regeneration (emptying) of particle filter is retained optimal - correct calculation of exhaust temperature - correct calculation of service interval - diagnostic system is retained - no enlarged NOx emissions compared with original when driving in regulated emission tests __________________

13-07-2007, 09:38	#2
Dr Zoidberg Decapodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,381 Thanks: 20 Thanked 175 Times in 130 Posts	Re: New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 You missed the important thing - price __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

13-07-2007, 10:42	#3
AlexMechanic Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Incestershire Posts: 123 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 Does this allow two maps to be switched between? I am interested in the technology, but not the tuning itself as I have a tuner. I could just do with the convenience of switchable maps - one clean like I have now, and then a dirty one for track / competition use. PS: This is Jason, devonutopia on another account.

13-07-2007, 10:53	#4
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,781 Thanks: 90 Thanked 857 Times in 772 Posts	Re: New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 I don't think it would Jason. The switching technology is normally built into the software. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

13-07-2007, 11:19	#6
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,781 Thanks: 90 Thanked 857 Times in 772 Posts	Re: New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 J I'll PM you so as not to take this thread off topic. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

13-07-2007, 14:42	#7
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 its a reversable re-map, not switchable. BSR Spend around 3 months testing each car and usually buy one of car to do development and long term testing on. They also do development work for the swedish government on bio fuels etc. Sorry the RRP Price is £525 plus VAT, but we can do them for £495 plus VAT at min. __________________

03-08-2007, 11:25	#8
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New BSR PPC Units, Fabia VRs and PD140 BTT, Remember BSR also do some really good FSi-T software!! __________________

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