Emergency Braking Indicators

SwimmerBoy · 08-02-2008, 12:10

Been playing around with Vag-Com and the old school 'VWTool' and so far I've:

Enabled Anti-hijack (locks car when it goes above 10mph)
Enabled Auto-unlock (unlocks drivers door when you take the keys out)
Measured Torque, calculated BHP and plotted a graph with the (semi-accurate) results

I've had a look around what else you can change on the software and I've heard about 'Emergency Breaking Indicators' (Byte 17, bit 0 if i remember correctly) that flash the brake lights rapidly if you stamp on the brakes - has anyone had any experience with this? Is it worth it, or even legal!?

ap0gee · 08-02-2008, 12:53

It comes as standard on some Citroens, so it must be legal. Worth it is another matter. I have heard that spirited late braking will set it off, and that it doesn't cancel when you set off again unless you do something (turn off the ignition?) Those two last things may be malicious rumours, however!

RichB86 · 08-02-2008, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwimmerBoy

Been playing around with Vag-Com and the old school 'VWTool' and so far I've:

Enabled Anti-hijack (locks car when it goes above 10mph)
Enabled Auto-unlock (unlocks drivers door when you take the keys out)
Measured Torque, calculated BHP and plotted a graph with the (semi-accurate) results

I've had a look around what else you can change on the software and I've heard about 'Emergency Breaking Indicators' (Byte 17, bit 0 if i remember correctly) that flash the brake lights rapidly if you stamp on the brakes - has anyone had any experience with this? Is it worth it, or even legal!?

is this possible on a Octavia Mk1? also interested with the emergency flashing brake lights. hmmm really need to sort out my VAG COm Cable

Gizmo68 · 08-02-2008, 14:13

Its not 100% legal

116
Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed.

SwimmerBoy · 08-02-2008, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichB86

is this possible on a Octavia Mk1? also interested with the emergency flashing brake lights. hmmm really need to sort out my VAG COm Cable

Dunno, my advice would be to beg, borrow or steal a cable and the appropriate software and give it a try! Perhaps have a search in the Octavia part of the forum to see if there's anyone else who's done it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizmo68

Its not 100% legal

116
Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed.

I thought it was the brake lights that flashed, not the hazards?

Hmmm... might have to set it to 'on' then get someone to follow me to check.

smstext · 08-02-2008, 21:12

there isnt anything illegal ive even seen ambulances using it on motorways when approching tailbacks. I have it enabled on mine, you have to be literly locking up first for it to work and then it turns itself off when you let off the brakes.

RichB86 · 10-02-2008, 14:18

cannot be illegal as the Astra VXR has the flashing brake lights.

Gizmo68 · 10-02-2008, 14:31

But flashing brake lights and hazard warning lights are two completely different things

smstext · 10-02-2008, 17:20

can flashing brakelights be enabled on the octy 2 then?

dstev2000 · 10-02-2008, 19:01

Dunno but when my brother's SRI did it I thought it was a dodgy Vauxhall wiring fault

I'm liking the idea of adaptive brake lights that get super bright under heavy braking.

mattbeef · 10-02-2008, 23:27

Anti Hi-Jack and and Auto Unlock can be enabled on the MK1 as my vrs does that

Tomo1971 · 10-02-2008, 23:29

Any flashing red lights on the back are a no no, and in fact they are illegal for even the police to use while moving, they should only be used while stationary. They even had to change the law for the Highways agency patrols to use them while stationary. AFAIK only Trumpton (fire brigade) can use flashing reds to the rear while moving.

Steve

Theresias · 13-02-2008, 12:52

The emergency brake flash function uses the turn signals (yellow)...

maverick_swe · 13-02-2008, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichB86

is this possible on a Octavia Mk1? also interested with the emergency flashing brake lights. hmmm really need to sort out my VAG COm Cable

No, as far as i know, it's not possible on the mk1. The mk2 has a more advanced on board computer system (CAN) then the mk1.

08-02-2008, 12:10	#1
SwimmerBoy Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 86 Members Car: Skoda Fabia VRS Thanks: 13 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Emergency Braking Indicators Been playing around with Vag-Com and the old school 'VWTool' and so far I've: Enabled Anti-hijack (locks car when it goes above 10mph) Enabled Auto-unlock (unlocks drivers door when you take the keys out) Measured Torque, calculated BHP and plotted a graph with the (semi-accurate) results I've had a look around what else you can change on the software and I've heard about 'Emergency Breaking Indicators' (Byte 17, bit 0 if i remember correctly) that flash the brake lights rapidly if you stamp on the brakes - has anyone had any experience with this? Is it worth it, or even legal!?

08-02-2008, 12:53	#2
ap0gee ASZ Eternal Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Leafy Chesh-shire Posts: 7,108 Members Car: Black Magic Fabia vRS Thanks: 385 Thanked 406 Times in 353 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators It comes as standard on some Citroens, so it must be legal. Worth it is another matter. I have heard that spirited late braking will set it off, and that it doesn't cancel when you set off again unless you do something (turn off the ignition?) Those two last things may be malicious rumours, however! __________________

08-02-2008, 14:13	#4
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,332 Members Car: Superb Comfort 1.9 TDi 130 Thanks: 17 Thanked 83 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators Its not 100% legal 116 Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed. __________________ ______________________________________________ Superb driver

08-02-2008, 21:12	#6
smstext 2.0 FSI Sport. Join Date: May 2007 Location: oxon Posts: 10,467 Members Car: Octavia Mk2 FSI Sport Thanks: 13 Thanked 338 Times in 304 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators there isnt anything illegal ive even seen ambulances using it on motorways when approching tailbacks. I have it enabled on mine, you have to be literly locking up first for it to work and then it turns itself off when you let off the brakes. __________________ Oxon Meet 24 Jan 09 click here for more info Briskoda Summer Camp Trip June 2009 click here!!

10-02-2008, 14:18	#7
RichB86 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 895 Members Car: Octavia Vrs Thanks: 43 Thanked 32 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators cannot be illegal as the Astra VXR has the flashing brake lights. __________________ Must Go Faster

10-02-2008, 14:31	#8
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,332 Members Car: Superb Comfort 1.9 TDi 130 Thanks: 17 Thanked 83 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators But flashing brake lights and hazard warning lights are two completely different things __________________ ______________________________________________ Superb driver

10-02-2008, 17:20	#9
smstext 2.0 FSI Sport. Join Date: May 2007 Location: oxon Posts: 10,467 Members Car: Octavia Mk2 FSI Sport Thanks: 13 Thanked 338 Times in 304 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators can flashing brakelights be enabled on the octy 2 then? __________________ Oxon Meet 24 Jan 09 click here for more info Briskoda Summer Camp Trip June 2009 click here!!

10-02-2008, 19:01	#10
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,103 Members Car: 2 Octavia IIs: an L&K combi and a vRS hatch. Thanks: 51 Thanked 177 Times in 161 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators Dunno but when my brother's SRI did it I thought it was a dodgy Vauxhall wiring fault I'm liking the idea of adaptive brake lights that get super bright under heavy braking. __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

10-02-2008, 23:27	#11
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Baarnsley Posts: 3,379 Members Car: MK1 Red Octy vRS Thanks: 39 Thanked 120 Times in 119 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators Anti Hi-Jack and and Auto Unlock can be enabled on the MK1 as my vrs does that __________________ I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque Go on click me you know you want to

10-02-2008, 23:29	#12
Tomo1971 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 668 Members Car: Octy MkII vRS TDi Thanks: 14 Thanked 42 Times in 40 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators Any flashing red lights on the back are a no no, and in fact they are illegal for even the police to use while moving, they should only be used while stationary. They even had to change the law for the Highways agency patrols to use them while stationary. AFAIK only Trumpton (fire brigade) can use flashing reds to the rear while moving. Steve __________________ My Car - 2007 Octavia vRS TDI in Diamond Silver-Cruise Control-Parking Sensors-Light Assisit/Auto Wipers-Bluetooth-Jumbo Pack For Work - 2004 Landrover Freelander TD4 Commercial - Owned and run by me Something for Weekend - My Bed

13-02-2008, 12:52	#13
Theresias Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Mid Germany Posts: 430 Members Car: MY 2007 Thanks: 1 Thanked 31 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Emergency Braking Indicators The emergency brake flash function uses the turn signals (yellow)... __________________ Sebastian

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