03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem

steadyeddie · 10-03-2006, 20:25

03 Fabia 1.2 HTP (32k miles)started to stutter when driving. Engine management warning light came on. Called the AA and computer diagnostic said map sensor but not 100% sure. Towed to main dealer who said timing was off and could have been caused by stretched timing chain, chain skipping on cog or some worn parts. Have to strip down the engine to be sure. Possible major repairs.Should timing chain not cause probles till at least 120K miles??Do not know yet if skoda will cover repairs if fault was caused by faulty parts. Anybody have similar problems?

OctaviaT81 · 10-03-2006, 20:28

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Originally Posted by steadyeddie

03 Fabia 1.2 HTP (32k miles)started to stutter when driving. Engine management warning light came on. Called the AA and computer diagnostic said map sensor but not 100% sure. Towed to main dealer who said timing was off and could have been caused by stretched timing chain, chain skipping on cog or some worn parts. Have to strip down the engine to be sure. Possible major repairs.Should timing chain not cause probles till at least 120K miles??Do not know yet if skoda will cover repairs if fault was caused by faulty parts. Anybody have similar problems?

I thought the timing chains on the HTPs were designed to last forwever (ie. nothing needs changing for the useable life of the engine) could be wrong though!

Lummox · 10-03-2006, 20:30

the only time ive seen a timing chain go wrong on a 1.2 is when the owner let the oil level drop to just under the minimum. Going around a corner the little amount of oil in the sum couldnt keep the pump fed. Oil pressure drop and the oil fed tensioner went weak, timing goes out and can cause engine damage.

steadyeddie · 10-03-2006, 20:35

kept a regular check on the oil level and never ever seen oil warning light come on. had last checked the oil level 2 days earlier

steadyeddie · 13-03-2006, 21:21

Rang dealer late this afternoon. They had only started to look at the engine......even though it has been there since last Wednesday morning..So still waiting for answers

Fabia 12v · 13-03-2006, 23:48

sounds odd... when i had my 1.2 i would hear it tightening at some start ups... but i too was under the impression was for life of engine.

steadyeddie · 21-03-2006, 17:58

Spoke to dealer today. They are waiting to fit new timing chain, guide rail and tensioner when they get new bolts delivered. Still no answer from Skoda Ireland after a week to tell if they are going to cover the cost of repair (parts and labour). Meanwhile i am heading into my third week without a car. Great service or what???

steadyeddie · 22-03-2006, 22:41

Bolts arrived. Dealer said they would repair my car in between other jobs and might have it ready to TEST by FRIDAY to see if there is further damage (valves, block etc). This is remember a main dealer not a back street garage.
Rang Skoda (Ireland) customer services and spoke to a rep called Dave. Told him how unhappy I was with the service I have recieved from the dealer and the lack of answers from Skoda about who would pay to fix my car. Especially as the car enters it's 3rd week in the garage. He spoke with the dealer and then told me that the car will be tested tomorrow morning. He will then contact me with full information.

Lummox · 22-03-2006, 22:58

Dont forget dealers are booked up weeks in advance. So break downs have to be slotted in between other jobs or take a ticket and wait thier turn.

They will try a chain etc and see if it works, there isnt really another way of telling if valves etc are bent without stripping the engine down.

steadyeddie · 24-03-2006, 22:56

Finally collected car this afternoon. New timing chain, guide rail and tensioner fitted. And a bill of €357 for labour.

mihai_sarb · 26-04-2006, 17:32

But is the problem fixed? I just bought a second-hand Skoda Fabia Sedan (from 2003) and I hear a "metallic" noise at low revs from the engine. Before I bought it I went to the service and the guys there told me it comes from the timing chain

steadyeddie · 27-04-2006, 12:06

'The car is running fine now but I hope that the same thing is not going to happen again when my car hits 60k miles especially as it is filled with oil recommended by skoda.

10-03-2006, 20:25	#1
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	03 Fabia Timing Chain Problem finally sorted 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP (32k miles)started to stutter when driving. Engine management warning light came on. Called the AA and computer diagnostic said map sensor but not 100% sure. Towed to main dealer who said timing was off and could have been caused by stretched timing chain, chain skipping on cog or some worn parts. Have to strip down the engine to be sure. Possible major repairs.Should timing chain not cause probles till at least 120K miles??Do not know yet if skoda will cover repairs if fault was caused by faulty parts. Anybody have similar problems? Last edited by steadyeddie; 25-03-2006 at 11:26.

10-03-2006, 20:30	#3
Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,968 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem the only time ive seen a timing chain go wrong on a 1.2 is when the owner let the oil level drop to just under the minimum. Going around a corner the little amount of oil in the sum couldnt keep the pump fed. Oil pressure drop and the oil fed tensioner went weak, timing goes out and can cause engine damage. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

10-03-2006, 20:35	#4
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem kept a regular check on the oil level and never ever seen oil warning light come on. had last checked the oil level 2 days earlier

13-03-2006, 21:21	#5
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem Rang dealer late this afternoon. They had only started to look at the engine......even though it has been there since last Wednesday morning..So still waiting for answers

13-03-2006, 23:48	#6
Fabia 12v RICHARD Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Twickenham - Middlesex Posts: 5,027 Members Car: Skoda Fabia >> VW Golf >> Seat Ibiza >> VW Polo Thanks: 11 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem sounds odd... when i had my 1.2 i would hear it tightening at some start ups... but i too was under the impression was for life of engine. __________________ First Car: Skoda Fabia MK1 1.2 12v Comfort Replaced with: Volkswagen Golf MK4 GT 1.9TDI Replaced with: Seat Ibiza MK4 Sport 1.9TDI Replaced with: Volkswagen Polo MK6 Ltd. Edition Sport 1.4 16v

21-03-2006, 17:58	#7
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem Spoke to dealer today. They are waiting to fit new timing chain, guide rail and tensioner when they get new bolts delivered. Still no answer from Skoda Ireland after a week to tell if they are going to cover the cost of repair (parts and labour). Meanwhile i am heading into my third week without a car. Great service or what???

22-03-2006, 22:41	#8
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem Bolts arrived. Dealer said they would repair my car in between other jobs and might have it ready to TEST by FRIDAY to see if there is further damage (valves, block etc). This is remember a main dealer not a back street garage. Rang Skoda (Ireland) customer services and spoke to a rep called Dave. Told him how unhappy I was with the service I have recieved from the dealer and the lack of answers from Skoda about who would pay to fix my car. Especially as the car enters it's 3rd week in the garage. He spoke with the dealer and then told me that the car will be tested tomorrow morning. He will then contact me with full information.

22-03-2006, 22:58	#9
Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,968 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem Dont forget dealers are booked up weeks in advance. So break downs have to be slotted in between other jobs or take a ticket and wait thier turn. They will try a chain etc and see if it works, there isnt really another way of telling if valves etc are bent without stripping the engine down. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-03-2006, 22:56	#10
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia Timing Chain Problem Finally collected car this afternoon. New timing chain, guide rail and tensioner fitted. And a bill of €357 for labour. Last edited by steadyeddie; 25-03-2006 at 11:28.

26-04-2006, 17:32	#11
mihai_sarb Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 5 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Sedan 1.4MPI Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem But is the problem fixed? I just bought a second-hand Skoda Fabia Sedan (from 2003) and I hear a "metallic" noise at low revs from the engine. Before I bought it I went to the service and the guys there told me it comes from the timing chain

27-04-2006, 12:06	#12
steadyeddie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 241 Members Car: Fabia Combi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 03 Fabia 1.2 HTP Timing Chain Problem 'The car is running fine now but I hope that the same thing is not going to happen again when my car hits 60k miles especially as it is filled with oil recommended by skoda.

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