04 vRS gearing / speeds

devonutopia · 03-06-2005, 21:54

Hullo

Can someone with a Fabia vRS of this year please stick up your usual speeds at various RPMs in sixth, please?

Thanks. Just wanted to get a little taster and see if I'll get better cruising economy in theory.

I need like 40mph/60mph/70mph/80mph+

Jobo · 03-06-2005, 22:00

I can stick mine in 6th at 25mph, remove both feet from pedals, and watch it slowly pull up to 30mph bang on and it would sit there all day on relitivly flat road surface

Moose · 03-06-2005, 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobo

I can stick mine in 6th at 25mph, remove both feet from pedals, and watch it slowly pull up to 30mph bang on and it would sit there all day on relitivly flat road surface

It would do that in my less powerful car in 5th. Looks like you bought a duffer

Jobo · 03-06-2005, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardEames

It would do that in my less powerful car in 5th. Looks like you bought a duffer

Wait til i put my foot down though........................

devonutopia · 03-06-2005, 22:04

Yeah, mine pulls to the tickover from 25mph in fifth too, although only on the flat and I try not to do that too often. I just wondered what sort of RPM 80mph would be - Currently its 2500rpm in fifth in my car, and I'd like it to be somewhere a lot closer to 2000rpm after the work is done.

Jobo · 03-06-2005, 22:06

Actually just read your topic name correctly, mine is an '05. Dont know if that would make any difference?

devonutopia · 03-06-2005, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobo

Actually just read your topic name correctly, mine is an '05. Dont know if that would make any difference?

Don't think so, as it was 04 I think that Skoda decided to alter the gearing so it wasn't as long as the 53 plate cars. So your gearing is likely to be the same anyway.

Jobo · 03-06-2005, 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Don't think so, as it was 04 I think that Skoda decided to alter the gearing so it wasn't as long as the 53 plate cars. So your gearing is likely to be the same anyway.

I'll have to remember and check tomorrow, just in from driving it too

MagicBoy · 03-06-2005, 22:53

Have look here :

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227973

devonutopia · 03-06-2005, 23:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicBoy

Have look here :

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227973

Spot on!

devonutopia · 03-06-2005, 23:31

Looks like the 04 doesn't rev much lower in sixth at 80, than mine does now in 5th - only around 100rpm or so. Not so good, but still.

edit: Obvious Q now is, which may have been asked before, is WHY did they change it to a shorter ratio box?

Cheekymonkey · 04-06-2005, 14:31

My '04 gearbox gives me 70mph at just under 1900 rpm. I can't remember the exact figure, but it is not much above 2100rpm at 80mph. Will check this afternoon.

Lummox · 04-06-2005, 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Looks like the 04 doesn't rev much lower in sixth at 80, than mine does now in 5th - only around 100rpm or so. Not so good, but still.

The idea of the six speed box is not to change the rpm in final gear. It brings all the lower gears closer together.

Gula faran · 04-06-2005, 15:33

Fabia RS - Modified gearbox
The gearbox combined with the 1.9TDI/ 96 kW engine will have the gear ratios optimized and,
consequently, some of its spec will change slightly (see the following table).
Valid from: Week 5, 2004
1.9 TDI/ 96 kW 1.9 TDI/ 96 kW
Old New
Gear ratio
I. 3.769 3.769
II. 2.087 2.087
III. 1.324 1.324
IV. 0.911 0.977
V. 0.902 0.975
VI. 0.756 0.814
R 4.459 4.459
Final ratio I-3.238/ II-2.615 I-3.238/ II-2.615
Max speed kmh 204 206
Acceleration 0-100 kmh s 9.6 9.5
Fuel consumpti on EU 3 EU 3
A (urban) l/100 km 6.7 7.1
B (extra-urban) 4.2 4.5
C (total) 5.1 5.4
CO2 (total) g/km 138 146

Cheekymonkey · 06-06-2005, 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheekymonkey

My '04 gearbox gives me 70mph at just under 1900 rpm. I can't remember the exact figure, but it is not much above 2100rpm at 80mph. Will check this afternoon.

Checked this on the weekend - eeez correct sir.

devonutopia · 06-06-2005, 20:52

Oh good. Lets hope I have this same gearbox then.

Will be nice to have 400 less RPM at 80mph.

Jobo · 06-06-2005, 21:47

Just checked my 2005. 2400rpm in 6th at 80mph

pbirkett · 06-06-2005, 21:59

My 04 was the same as yours Jobo roughly. About 2200 or slightly less at 70.

DRJ · 06-06-2005, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobo

Just checked my 2005. 2400rpm in 6th at 80mph

That's fine.... 6th gear gives you 32.51mph/1000rpm - hence 2400rpm = 78mph!

DRJ · 06-06-2005, 22:13

An early car doing 2400rpm in 6th would be going at over 91mph - or at 78mph would only be turning at 2050rpm....

devonutopia · 06-06-2005, 22:24

Sounds like I'm in for a gamble which gearbox I have.

Anyone know both part numbers for the two generations of gearbox so I can see which mine is, and be prepared. It doesn't really matter, but would be nice to know. I prefer longer gearboxes anyway, but won't mind if I have the closer ratio one.

bryand · 06-06-2005, 22:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Sounds like I'm in for a gamble which gearbox I have.

Anyone know both part numbers for the two generations of gearbox so I can see which mine is, and be prepared. It doesn't really matter, but would be nice to know. I prefer longer gearboxes anyway, but won't mind if I have the closer ratio one.

Is the 3-letter gearbox code somewhere on the gearbox itself?
ETKA lists three 6-speed gearboxes, with codes FJW, FSM and HDS.
My Furby vRS was built in June '04 and has the newer gearbox, code HDS.
I guess the F-series were earlier, but whether one or both refers to the early 'long-legged' gearbox, I don't know. (I don't know what the difference between the FJW and FSM boxes was.) So the '04 gearbox on the spreadsheet refers to the HDS; the '53 gearbox data will be for the F-series, I guess.

DRJ · 07-06-2005, 08:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Sounds like I'm in for a gamble which gearbox I have.

Anyone know both part numbers for the two generations of gearbox so I can see which mine is, and be prepared. It doesn't really matter, but would be nice to know. I prefer longer gearboxes anyway, but won't mind if I have the closer ratio one.

The easiest way is merely to accelerate to 2000 in 6th gear and see what the speed is - if it's 76mph or thereabouts you've got the old box - if it's 65mph or thereabouts you've got the new one. Note 5th on the old one is almost the same as sixth on the new one...

johnyardley · 07-06-2005, 09:05

Who needs 6 gears with all of that torque.
I think it would be good to have a higher 5th gear on my pd100 after Allards get their hands on it on Friday.

John

03-06-2005, 21:54	#1
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	04 vRS gearing / speeds Hullo Can someone with a Fabia vRS of this year please stick up your usual speeds at various RPMs in sixth, please? Thanks. Just wanted to get a little taster and see if I'll get better cruising economy in theory. I need like 40mph/60mph/70mph/80mph+ __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

03-06-2005, 22:00	#2
Jobo Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 131 Members Car: Black Magic Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can stick mine in 6th at 25mph, remove both feet from pedals, and watch it slowly pull up to 30mph bang on and it would sit there all day on relitivly flat road surface __________________ Old car :- 2005 Black Magic Fabia vRS - Eibachs,Star Performance Re-map New Car :- Renaultsport Clio 182 c/w Cup suspension pack and Cup spoiler pack

03-06-2005, 22:04	#5
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Yeah, mine pulls to the tickover from 25mph in fifth too, although only on the flat and I try not to do that too often. I just wondered what sort of RPM 80mph would be - Currently its 2500rpm in fifth in my car, and I'd like it to be somewhere a lot closer to 2000rpm after the work is done. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

03-06-2005, 22:06	#6
Jobo Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 131 Members Car: Black Magic Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Actually just read your topic name correctly, mine is an '05. Dont know if that would make any difference? __________________ Old car :- 2005 Black Magic Fabia vRS - Eibachs,Star Performance Re-map New Car :- Renaultsport Clio 182 c/w Cup suspension pack and Cup spoiler pack

03-06-2005, 22:53	#9
MagicBoy Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cheshire Posts: 288 Members Car: '05 Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Have look here : http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showpost.php?p=227973 __________________ '05 Diamond Silver Fabia v/RS

03-06-2005, 23:31	#11
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Looks like the 04 doesn't rev much lower in sixth at 80, than mine does now in 5th - only around 100rpm or so. Not so good, but still. edit: Obvious Q now is, which may have been asked before, is WHY did they change it to a shorter ratio box? __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video! Last edited by devonutopia; 03-06-2005 at 23:32.

04-06-2005, 14:31	#12
Cheekymonkey Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Warwick Posts: 425 Members Car: BMW Z4 Coupe Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	My '04 gearbox gives me 70mph at just under 1900 rpm. I can't remember the exact figure, but it is not much above 2100rpm at 80mph. Will check this afternoon. __________________ Dave Ex - Fabia VRS Owner Now Z4 Coupe

04-06-2005, 15:33	#14
Gula faran Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 216 Members Car: Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Fabia RS - Modified gearbox The gearbox combined with the 1.9TDI/ 96 kW engine will have the gear ratios optimized and, consequently, some of its spec will change slightly (see the following table). Valid from: Week 5, 2004 1.9 TDI/ 96 kW 1.9 TDI/ 96 kW Old New Gear ratio I. 3.769 3.769 II. 2.087 2.087 III. 1.324 1.324 IV. 0.911 0.977 V. 0.902 0.975 VI. 0.756 0.814 R 4.459 4.459 Final ratio I-3.238/ II-2.615 I-3.238/ II-2.615 Max speed kmh 204 206 Acceleration 0-100 kmh s 9.6 9.5 Fuel consumpti on EU 3 EU 3 A (urban) l/100 km 6.7 7.1 B (extra-urban) 4.2 4.5 C (total) 5.1 5.4 CO2 (total) g/km 138 146

06-06-2005, 20:52	#16
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Oh good. Lets hope I have this same gearbox then. Will be nice to have 400 less RPM at 80mph. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

06-06-2005, 21:47	#17
Jobo Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 131 Members Car: Black Magic Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just checked my 2005. 2400rpm in 6th at 80mph __________________ Old car :- 2005 Black Magic Fabia vRS - Eibachs,Star Performance Re-map New Car :- Renaultsport Clio 182 c/w Cup suspension pack and Cup spoiler pack

06-06-2005, 21:59	#18
pbirkett Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,873 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My 04 was the same as yours Jobo roughly. About 2200 or slightly less at 70.

06-06-2005, 22:13	#20
DRJ Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Gloucester Posts: 810 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 14 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	An early car doing 2400rpm in 6th would be going at over 91mph - or at 78mph would only be turning at 2050rpm.... __________________ David - Skoda Fabia vRS - October 2004 facelift

06-06-2005, 22:24	#21
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Sounds like I'm in for a gamble which gearbox I have. Anyone know both part numbers for the two generations of gearbox so I can see which mine is, and be prepared. It doesn't really matter, but would be nice to know. I prefer longer gearboxes anyway, but won't mind if I have the closer ratio one. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

07-06-2005, 09:05	#24
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Who needs 6 gears with all of that torque. I think it would be good to have a higher 5th gear on my pd100 after Allards get their hands on it on Friday. John

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