1.4 16V Throttle response / Problem

Nick_H · 19-06-2005, 10:38

I've let this go so far but it's now starting to bug me a little. The throttle response on my new 1.4 16V Elegance Combi is terrible. It's now 2 months old and done 1600 miles. I initially put it down to a tight engine and me keeping the revs low while running in.

Pulling away from an island or junction quickly is almost impossible. Pre plan the manuvure and allow about 2.5 3k revs and its ok but nipping out is out of the question. It feels like you're stuck going nowhere. I would go as far as to say it's not safe.

I had the car down to Bickertons in Sheffield ( where I purchased it ) a few weeks ago and they said thay had it on the diagnostic machines and everything looked fine.

I understand that the 16V needs to be reved to get the best out of it ( Bickertons also said this ) but surley it should have enough low down torque to pull away from an island OK.

At the moment it feels like my old 8v Combi would run rings around this one.

Any ideas ?

Lummox · 19-06-2005, 10:40

It is a 'feature' on the 14 16v sadly, the Ibiza 1.4 is exactly the same. 75bhp is the worst ou of the two but the 100bhp suffers the same. If your dealer has told you nothing is wrong there probably isnt. Sorry.

Stimps · 19-06-2005, 11:25

Mine does exactly the same thing - blipping the throttle before pulling seems to help, although I agree that it makes darting out a little harder!

I thought the reason was the ECU trying to 'smooth' the throttle due to emissions laws? Which is exactly what you don't want when trying to pull away

Only thing I can say is that you do get used to it eventually!

YeeHaa2.0TDI · 19-06-2005, 17:13

Yup; its to control the emissions; any new car review ;Parkers , Autocar etc all mention it. We test drove both the 1.4 16v and 1.9tdi recently and this was was one of the reasons we chose the diesel.

LouisTsui · 23-06-2005, 16:14

Happen to my 1.4 16v as well, I call it NA lag, you just have to get used to it mate.

Nick_H · 23-06-2005, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisTsui

Happen to my 1.4 16v as well, I call it NA lag, you just have to get used to it mate.

:0(

Never mind. Having a TVR in the gararge makes up for the Fabias lack of poke :-)

tsamanis · 24-06-2005, 07:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick_H

I've let this go so far but it's now starting to bug me a little. The throttle response on my new 1.4 16V Elegance Combi is terrible. It's now 2 months old and done 1600 miles. I initially put it down to a tight engine and me keeping the revs low while running in.

Pulling away from an island or junction quickly is almost impossible. Pre plan the manuvure and allow about 2.5 3k revs and its ok but nipping out is out of the question. It feels like you're stuck going nowhere. I would go as far as to say it's not safe.

I had the car down to Bickertons in Sheffield ( where I purchased it ) a few weeks ago and they said thay had it on the diagnostic machines and everything looked fine.

I understand that the 16V needs to be reved to get the best out of it ( Bickertons also said this ) but surley it should have enough low down torque to pull away from an island OK.

At the moment it feels like my old 8v Combi would run rings around this one.

Any ideas ?

Local tunners here in Greece have already dealt with this “feature” with the addition of a small device on the throttle , namely “Sprint Booster”, which eliminates the lag. Certainly worth trying…..

19-06-2005, 10:38	#1
Nick_H Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 175 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	1.4 16V Throttle response / Problem I've let this go so far but it's now starting to bug me a little. The throttle response on my new 1.4 16V Elegance Combi is terrible. It's now 2 months old and done 1600 miles. I initially put it down to a tight engine and me keeping the revs low while running in. Pulling away from an island or junction quickly is almost impossible. Pre plan the manuvure and allow about 2.5 3k revs and its ok but nipping out is out of the question. It feels like you're stuck going nowhere. I would go as far as to say it's not safe. I had the car down to Bickertons in Sheffield ( where I purchased it ) a few weeks ago and they said thay had it on the diagnostic machines and everything looked fine. I understand that the 16V needs to be reved to get the best out of it ( Bickertons also said this ) but surley it should have enough low down torque to pull away from an island OK. At the moment it feels like my old 8v Combi would run rings around this one. Any ideas ?

19-06-2005, 10:40	#2
Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,968 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	It is a 'feature' on the 14 16v sadly, the Ibiza 1.4 is exactly the same. 75bhp is the worst ou of the two but the 100bhp suffers the same. If your dealer has told you nothing is wrong there probably isnt. Sorry. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

19-06-2005, 11:25	#3
Stimps Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Colchester Posts: 5,091 Members Car: Fabia 1.4 16v Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mine does exactly the same thing - blipping the throttle before pulling seems to help, although I agree that it makes darting out a little harder! I thought the reason was the ECU trying to 'smooth' the throttle due to emissions laws? Which is exactly what you don't want when trying to pull away Only thing I can say is that you do get used to it eventually! __________________ Steve « Nature Green 1.4 16v Fabia Comfort »

19-06-2005, 17:13	#4
YeeHaa2.0TDI Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: s yorks Posts: 140 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yup; its to control the emissions; any new car review ;Parkers , Autocar etc all mention it. We test drove both the 1.4 16v and 1.9tdi recently and this was was one of the reasons we chose the diesel. __________________ Buy the ticket, take the ride

23-06-2005, 16:14	#5
LouisTsui Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colchester Posts: 288 Members Car: Fabia 1.4 Comfort, green, no allory wheel >.< Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Happen to my 1.4 16v as well, I call it NA lag, you just have to get used to it mate. __________________ I try very hard not to curb my alloys...

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