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Old 07-10-2007, 10:36   #1
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1.4 AUA Auto 2001 Engine cut out

Driving at motorway speed yesterday the engine cut out and rev counter dropped to zero.
This lasted for less than a second and then engine ran as normal and rev counter bounced back to previous reading.

Grateful of any thoughts!

VAG-COM scan as follows:

Sunday,07,October,2007,10:01:21:15738
VAG-COM Version: Release 704.1
Data version: 20070723
Chassis Type: 6Y - Skoda Fabia
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 17 19 25 37 44 46 56 76

VIN: TMBNC46Y523398***
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 036-906-034-APE.LBL
Part No: 036 906 034 AE
Component: MARELLI 4LV 3778
Coding: 00063
Shop #: WSC 13765
TMBNC46Y523398*** SKZ7Z0A1112509

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: None
Part No: 001 927 731 H
Component: AG4 Getriebe 001 2981

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No: 6Y0 820 045
Component: Klimaanlage X0770

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: None
Part No: 6Q0 937 049 B
Component: BORDNETZ-SG. 1S31
Coding: 25754
Shop #: WSC 13765

1 Fault Found:
00966 - Fuse for Blinkers (S151)
37-00 - Faulty

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.LBL
Part No: 1C0 909 601 C
Component: 02 AIRBAG VW51 02
Coding: 12338
Shop #: WSC 13765

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: None
Part No: 6Y2 919 850 C
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDO V09
Coding: 16441
Shop #: WSC 23032
TMBNC46Y523398373 SKZ7Z0A1112509

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901.LBL
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 1S31
Coding: 00013
Shop #: WSC 13765

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: None
Part No: Bitte Adress
Component: e 17 eingeben

No Faults Found
or DTCs not supported by controller
or a communication error occurred

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: None
Part No: 6Q0 423 156 H
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V200
Coding: 00110
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 6Q0-959-433.LBL
Part No: 6Q0 959 433 E
Component: 31 Komfortgerát 0001
Coding: 00067
Shop #: WSC 13765

Part No: 6Q2959802
Component: 31 Tőrsteuer.FS TFK 0002

Part No: 6Q2959801
Component: 31 Tőrsteuer.BF TFK 0002

No fault code found.

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Old 17-10-2007, 12:41   #2
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Re: 1.4 AUA Auto 2001 Engine cut out

Hi, I'm the guy you asked if I ever got anywhere with this cutting out..

To be honest.. No, I told my mechanic who said if it happened again to try and take more notice of whats on and off... but truth is it never happened again and it's been about 6 or 7 months now.

My Mechanics first thought was a faulty relay, he infomred me of a VW trasporter bus that another customer had (poor guy had no legs so if it stopped, he was stuck).. anyways.. My guy borrowed it and had it for a couple of months before the fault happened again and he could trace it.

Unless it's happening regularly then the relays sound like a good strting point.. if it's only happened once? might nenver happen again.. if its a 2nd, 3rd time over 6 months or something then i dunno i'm afraid.

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Re: 1.4 AUA Auto 2001 Engine cut out

Had a 1.4 MPi in the other week, a non starter, scanned it no faults found. Did an output test on the fuel pump relay it did not make a noise (this was all in the customers' driveway). Towed it back and went to move it later, it fired up as if nothing was wrong, did another output test an the relay was making the necessary noises. Replaced the relay and we haven't seen it since.

You could try cleaning the throttle body and log the coolant temperature sensor readings from cold to normal temperature. Had a 16V with similar symptoms, the the temperature readings were all within parameters a log revealed that one reading would be 80 degrees and the next a fraction of a second later would be 11 degrees. This would affect the fuelling resulting in too a rich mixture to burn.
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Old 20-10-2007, 10:08   #4
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Re: 1.4 AUA Auto 2001 Engine cut out

Thanks for the thoughts.

The ECT sensor was replaced about a year ago.
I understand what you are saying but I can't make the suggestion fit with the fact the rev counter went to zero at the same time.
The whole event was so quick that I wondered if I'd imagined it.
My wife says this also happened when she was driving the car, same conditions, motorway speed. So there have been two events now.

I'm suspicious of the crank sensor, i.e. no output would send the rev counter to zero and stop ignition. But it could equally be almost any other electrical glitch.

I would just change the crank sensor, but I can't even see it!
I know my eyesight is begining to fail but a it seems it would be a lot of work to change it on the off chance.
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Re: 1.4 AUA Auto 2001 Engine cut out

Don't know if Relay 109 could cause this issue, but it has been known to fail on many VAG cars and cause the engine to cut out, although I'm not sure if they will restart straight away afterwards. These cost about Ł20 for a new version and the dealers usually have them in stock. Probably easier to change a relay than a crank position sensor if this is a possible fault.
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Re: 1.4 AUA Auto 2001 Engine cut out

Thanks, but there is no relay 109 on the Fabia.
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