1.4 Tuning

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 11:17

Morning guys,

I Was hoping for a cheap boost to my cars performance,

I Just wanted to know if this is any good and what kind of difference it would make (It would be the 1.4MPI One)

http://www.jetex.co.uk/website/induc...id=2&mod=Fabia

And could a total idiot fit it, I have no experience with engines at all

bengie · 09-03-2006, 11:22

wouldn't bother myself mate, it will make it louder and give a funny induction noise when you blip the throttle, probably give you quicker responce at low speed but slower at high speeds due to heat soak.

if you want to any difference at all you need to fit a cold air intake, with that filter yes you will be getting more air in but you will be getting hot air in so actually be worse off in the end.

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 11:40

Quicker response at lower speed is what I was after, but you reccomend a cold air intake. Where Can I get one and how much?

**robmawer** · 09-03-2006, 11:42

For £60 I wouldn't bother on an otherwise untuned engine...

Rob.

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 11:47

Okay so where would you guys start, I got £100 at the moment to throw on the car, but I could get more

Dr Zoidberg · 09-03-2006, 11:57

Seriously , don't bother.
You'll only get a very tiny improvement and if you declare the changes to your insurance company as you should it'll cost a load.
Just save any spare money towards changing it for a better car

**robmawer** · 09-03-2006, 11:58

If it were me...
£100 into savings account.
Remove spare tyre and replace with can of tyre foam (done at your own risk...

).
Remove back seats.

If you want to start tinkering with the engine you'll have to pay a lot for relatively minimal gains, and then you'll start having issues with insurance, reliability, etc. etc. There are options, but you'd probably need to add another zero to the end of your budget...

Rob.

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 12:00

Yeah, I Didnt think about the insurance

I won't get a new one until the warranty runs out in May. So Until then I will have to put up with the fact that you can't sustain any speed in 5th gear

OctaviaT81 · 09-03-2006, 15:09

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Originally Posted by skodayouth

Yeah, I Didnt think about the insurance

I won't get a new one until the warranty runs out in May. So Until then I will have to put up with the fact that you can't sustain any speed in 5th gear

Rubbish, you can get 120MPH out of one of those. With some trying, the wind in the right direction. As long as it's flat or downhill

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 15:17

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Originally Posted by OctaviaT81

Rubbish, you can get 120MPH out of one of those. With some trying, the wind in the right direction. As long as it's flat or downhill

I'm going along at around 80MPH on a long and flat road (Private of course), in 4th, coming up for 5k or over it. I Change into 5th, and with my foot still welded to the floor I Slowed down to just over 60

, and the car outright refused to go any faster. I Don't beleive it will do Skodas claim of 100MPH Either, unless they did it in 4th

OctaviaT81 · 09-03-2006, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by skodayouth

I'm going along at around 80MPH on a long and flat road (Private of course), in 4th, coming up for 5k or over it. I Change into 5th, and with my foot still welded to the floor I Slowed down to just over 60

, and the car outright refused to go any faster. I Don't beleive it will do Skodas claim of 100MPH Either, unless they did it in 4th

Sounds like theres something wrong with your car mate! I'd get it checked. I can certify I have been in one of those in the Czech Republic, with 3 people in it at an indicated 200KPH. It might take a while to get there but it can do it.

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 15:24

Well Apart From an alternator load sensor, the fault code scan is clean. It's using BP Ultimate and It's got 14" Alloys with tyres that are a tad over-inflated. It's embarrasing on dual carriageways driving along like a granny in 4th with the engine having the nuts revved of it

If you managed to get 200KPH with 3 people in the car are you absolutley sure it was an 8v, thats 125MPH!

OctaviaT81 · 09-03-2006, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by skodayouth

Well Apart From an alternator load sensor, the fault code scan is clean. It's using BP Ultimate and It's got 14" Alloys with tyres that are a tad over-inflated. It's embarrasing on dual carriageways driving along like a granny in 4th with the engine having the nuts revved of it

If you managed to get 200KPH with 3 people in the car are you absolutley sure it was an 8v, thats 125MPH!

Yup

It was a very straight long road, but even so....

I tested one in the UK myself when they first came out too and I can say that it should be capable of significantly more than what you're achieving.

It almost sounds like the've put a wrong gear ratio on 5th?! Although that can't really be true...

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 15:36

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Originally Posted by OctaviaT81

Yup

It was a very straight long road, but even so....

I tested one in the UK myself when they first came out too and I can say that it should be capable of significantly more than what you're achieving.

It almost sounds like the've put a wrong gear ratio on 5th?! Although that can't really be true...

It goes from around 5500 in 4th to Over 3k in 5th if that helps, but that would be a pretty remarkable mistake to make, maybe it was made on A Friday afternoon

Edit: Iv'e just checked with the AA, It's supposed to do 21.1MPH Per 1kRPM in 5th, so at 4k you should be doing 84.4, but Im hanging around just above 3k. However the AA's figures could be utter bull, just like they say the 1.4 does 20-40 in 4th gear in 10 seconds. I Timed this myself and it took about 25, unless the figures are correct and I happen to have a total citrus fruit of a car

OctaviaT81 · 09-03-2006, 15:55

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Originally Posted by skodayouth

It goes from around 5500 in 4th to Over 3k in 5th if that helps, but that would be a pretty remarkable mistake to make, maybe it was made on A Friday afternoon

How much over 3k? Sounds like a pretty big drop in revs to me.

I dunno, someone else will be able to tell you but something doesn't sound quite right there.

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 15:58

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Originally Posted by OctaviaT81

How much over 3k? Sounds like a pretty big drop in revs to me.

I dunno, someone else will be able to tell you but something doesn't sound quite right there.

I cant tell you off the top of my head as I am currently in a much faster vehicle(My Office chair) but definatley between 3 and 4, maybe 3.5K at a guess

jjj84 · 09-03-2006, 16:06

In my 1.4 16v fabia 1-2 changing drops revs bout 1000rpm and from 3-4 it drops bout 6-700rpm, so in 4-5 it should be about 500?. The car is 06 model.

When i am driving about 62mph the car revs 3500 on fifth gear.. The car can rev up to +-7000prm if i remember correctly.

CarnivalClown · 09-03-2006, 16:08

maybe if we weld my car and yours together youd get more ?

I think the 1.4 is a great little engine for pootling into town, but wasnt meant to be driven at great speed. Hence 23 days and counting till VRS

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjj84

In my 1.4 16v fabia 1-2 changing drops revs bout 1000rpm and from 3-4 it drops bout 6-700rpm, so in 4-5 it should be about 500?. The car is 06 model.

When i am driving about 62mph the car revs 3500 on fifth gear.. The car can rev up to +-7000prm if i remember correctly.

For Some Stupid reason the 1.4 16v is shorter geared than the 8v (A Car which needs it more) and does only 19MPH Per 1k in 5th, but the redline on the 8v is 6k anyway

vRSLen · 09-03-2006, 18:37

I saw 130 MPH on my old 53 plate 1400 16V

pagh · 09-03-2006, 19:53

I have a 1.4 MPI 8v. It can do 170km/h. It hoovers around 4000rpm in 5th by 140km/h. Sounds like theres something seriously wrong with yours.

Fabia156 · 09-03-2006, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjj84

When i am driving about 62mph the car revs 3500 on fifth gear.. The car can rev up to +-7000prm if i remember correctly.

thats very weird.. My 1.4 16V goes more than 120 km/h when the RPM is 3500..
and yes its true.. it can rev up to 6500-7000 RPM which relly gives so much power

jjj84 · 09-03-2006, 21:45

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Originally Posted by Fabia156

thats very weird.. My 1.4 16V goes more than 120 km/h when the RPM is 3500..
and yes its true.. it can rev up to 6500-7000 RPM which relly gives so much power

My rpm are closer to 4000 when driving 120kmh.. Maybe different gearbox in newer models..

Fabia156 · 09-03-2006, 22:01

Mine is a 2002 model.. but theres somethin that i dont get.. the 1.4 16V produces 101 HP.. in some websites it says 75.. the MPI is the one with 75.. is it that there are two different 1.4 16V engines?

skodayouth · 09-03-2006, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabia156

Mine is a 2002 model.. but theres somethin that i dont get.. the 1.4 16V produces 101 HP.. in some websites it says 75.. the MPI is the one with 75.. is it that there are two different 1.4 16V engines?

The Engine Labelled "1.4 MPI" is the 8v 68BHP Skoda Sourced Engine. The 1.4 16v is avaliable in both 75 and 100BHP, they are similar engines but not Identical. Originally 1.4 75BHP Was for the Automatic transmission, but Early sport models had it too, could never see the point in it though.

Looks like a visit to the dealership for me, But the 8v was designed for people who were born in the days when they beleived that if you went over 15mph, the oxygen would be sucked out of you

.

09-03-2006, 11:17	#1
skodayouth Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 759 Members Car: Octavia II 1.9TDI DSG Elegance Estate Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	1.4 Tuning Morning guys, I Was hoping for a cheap boost to my cars performance, I Just wanted to know if this is any good and what kind of difference it would make (It would be the 1.4MPI One) http://www.jetex.co.uk/website/induc...id=2&mod=Fabia And could a total idiot fit it, I have no experience with engines at all __________________ Skoda Octava II Estate 1.9DSG Elegance Anthracite Grey Skoda Fabia 3 1.6 Tiptronic Storm Blue

09-03-2006, 11:22	#2
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,425 Members Car: 4x4 turbo estate Thanks: 18 Thanked 152 Times in 133 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning wouldn't bother myself mate, it will make it louder and give a funny induction noise when you blip the throttle, probably give you quicker responce at low speed but slower at high speeds due to heat soak. if you want to any difference at all you need to fit a cold air intake, with that filter yes you will be getting more air in but you will be getting hot air in so actually be worse off in the end. __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

09-03-2006, 11:40	#3
skodayouth Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 759 Members Car: Octavia II 1.9TDI DSG Elegance Estate Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning Quicker response at lower speed is what I was after, but you reccomend a cold air intake. Where Can I get one and how much? __________________ Skoda Octava II Estate 1.9DSG Elegance Anthracite Grey Skoda Fabia 3 1.6 Tiptronic Storm Blue

09-03-2006, 11:42	#4
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,476 Members Car: Octavia 1.6 Ambiente Thanks: 2 Thanked 75 Times in 68 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning For £60 I wouldn't bother on an otherwise untuned engine... Rob. __________________

09-03-2006, 11:47	#5
skodayouth Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 759 Members Car: Octavia II 1.9TDI DSG Elegance Estate Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning Okay so where would you guys start, I got £100 at the moment to throw on the car, but I could get more __________________ Skoda Octava II Estate 1.9DSG Elegance Anthracite Grey Skoda Fabia 3 1.6 Tiptronic Storm Blue

09-03-2006, 11:57	#6
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,860 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 34 Thanked 199 Times in 150 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning Seriously , don't bother. You'll only get a very tiny improvement and if you declare the changes to your insurance company as you should it'll cost a load. Just save any spare money towards changing it for a better car __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

09-03-2006, 11:58	#7
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,476 Members Car: Octavia 1.6 Ambiente Thanks: 2 Thanked 75 Times in 68 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning If it were me... £100 into savings account. Remove spare tyre and replace with can of tyre foam (done at your own risk... ). Remove back seats. If you want to start tinkering with the engine you'll have to pay a lot for relatively minimal gains, and then you'll start having issues with insurance, reliability, etc. etc. There are options, but you'd probably need to add another zero to the end of your budget... Rob. __________________

09-03-2006, 12:00	#8
skodayouth Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 759 Members Car: Octavia II 1.9TDI DSG Elegance Estate Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning Yeah, I Didnt think about the insurance I won't get a new one until the warranty runs out in May. So Until then I will have to put up with the fact that you can't sustain any speed in 5th gear __________________ Skoda Octava II Estate 1.9DSG Elegance Anthracite Grey Skoda Fabia 3 1.6 Tiptronic Storm Blue

09-03-2006, 15:24	#12
skodayouth Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 759 Members Car: Octavia II 1.9TDI DSG Elegance Estate Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning Well Apart From an alternator load sensor, the fault code scan is clean. It's using BP Ultimate and It's got 14" Alloys with tyres that are a tad over-inflated. It's embarrasing on dual carriageways driving along like a granny in 4th with the engine having the nuts revved of it If you managed to get 200KPH with 3 people in the car are you absolutley sure it was an 8v, thats 125MPH! __________________ Skoda Octava II Estate 1.9DSG Elegance Anthracite Grey Skoda Fabia 3 1.6 Tiptronic Storm Blue Last edited by skodayouth; 09-03-2006 at 15:26.

09-03-2006, 16:06	#17
jjj84 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: finland Posts: 98 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning In my 1.4 16v fabia 1-2 changing drops revs bout 1000rpm and from 3-4 it drops bout 6-700rpm, so in 4-5 it should be about 500?. The car is 06 model. When i am driving about 62mph the car revs 3500 on fifth gear.. The car can rev up to +-7000prm if i remember correctly. Last edited by jjj84; 09-03-2006 at 16:07.

09-03-2006, 16:08	#18
CarnivalClown Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 148 Members Car: 06 Octavia 4x4 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: 1.4 Tuning maybe if we weld my car and yours together youd get more ? I think the 1.4 is a great little engine for pootling into town, but wasnt meant to be driven at great speed. Hence 23 days and counting till VRS __________________ “Some people are like Slinkies - not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.”

09-03-2006, 18:37	#20
vRSLen King Rat Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 5,681 Members Car: MK11 Octavia vRS Thanks: 170 Thanked 208 Times in 153 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning I saw 130 MPH on my old 53 plate 1400 16V __________________ Current car: Black MKII Octavia vRS Combi Previous: Black MKI Octavia vRS Combi Black Fabia Elegance 100 BHP

09-03-2006, 19:53	#21
pagh Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 270 Members Car: Fabia Combi 1.9 TDI 100 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning I have a 1.4 MPI 8v. It can do 170km/h. It hoovers around 4000rpm in 5th by 140km/h. Sounds like theres something seriously wrong with yours.

09-03-2006, 22:01	#24
Fabia156 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 619 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1.4 Tuning Mine is a 2002 model.. but theres somethin that i dont get.. the 1.4 16V produces 101 HP.. in some websites it says 75.. the MPI is the one with 75.. is it that there are two different 1.4 16V engines? __________________ 1.4 16V

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