1.9 TDi PD100 what can be done?

BenaldR · 24-08-2005, 23:36

thinking about changing to a 1.9 TDi and was wondering what can be done to give it a bit more oomph? and what returns you have got from mods like bhp etc. ?

ben

devonutopia · 24-08-2005, 23:46

Jabba remap alone will take the standard PD100 to 145bhp.

With what I said in the PM, you'd be looking around 150

BenaldR · 25-08-2005, 00:00

how much would the jabba remap cost?

**tfboy** · 25-08-2005, 01:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenaldR

how much would the jabba remap cost?

For a PD engine, a standard off-the-shelf remap is £365, a custom remap (using rolling road) is £425

As a Briskoda member, you get 5% off those prices

If you get on a group buy, it's 10% off which equates to £382.50 inc vat

http://www.jabbasport.com/

ScoobyChris · 25-08-2005, 09:09

Remember that Jabba's rollers overread so probably closer to 130bhp

I ran a 30 quid tuning box off eBay on my PD100 (can be DIY'ed cheaper) which made a big difference to performance without creating lots of smog (sailed through MOT emissions). Claimed figures were a 20-25% improvement, but I only have the "***-dyno" confirmation rather than any real figures .... a guy at work with an Ibiza (FR?) with the PD130 engine was most surprised I could match his pace around the local country roads

I also had a Green panel filter on mine, but noticed no change in performance, power or economy when I switched this back to a paper one, so I personally wouldn't bother buying one

One thing which also made a big difference to overall performance was a set of Eibach springs and dampers. They didn't make the ride any more harsh, but they did stiffen it up a bit around corners.

Chris

**VRStu** · 25-08-2005, 09:17

Could always try and put a PD130 engine in it eh Jason.

I have posted the info on how to make a tuning box - do a search.

ScoobyChris · 25-08-2005, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Could always try and put a PD130 engine in it eh Jason.

Yeah I hear it's just a straight swap

Chris

johnyardley · 25-08-2005, 09:47

Hi,

I have a pd100 engine with lots of modifications.
The modifications were made at Allards who race a golf tdi mk 4 so have a vast amount of 1.9 tdi experience.

Phase 1 mods include front mounted intercooler and remap. This did cost around £1100. The side mounted intercooler struggles to cope with the temperatures created by additional heat added by the remap, so it may go into limp mode on a hot summers day. Rolling road test results were 147 bhp and 236 lb/ft.

Phase 2 mods include adding a pd130 turbo, pd130/150 diesel injectors, k & n cone filter and remap. I haven't had it on the rolling road yet but am expecting around 175-180 bhp and around 300 lb/ft torque.

To date I have had no mechanical problems. I say this because I was worried about the transmission. Allard's advise is that they have similar experience. I think their pd130 phase 3 conversion to 224 bhp does not upgrade the clutch. Also, AMD's pd140 phase 3 conversion to 220 bhp+ does not upgrade the transmission. VW cups racing philosophy is to keep the cars as standard as possible.

I must mention I will be upgrading to 16" wheels very soon as it will help get the power down more efficiently.

I have 15" alloys on ebay here for a reasonable £60 if anyone is interested?

I would like to upgrade the rather 'sombre' interior and have contact with a dismantlers who is quoting around £200 for vrs interior seats etc.

Lastly, I would like to upgrade the suspension but am waiting to see the affects of the 205X45ZRX16 low profile tyres on the ride quality. Iam expecting it to firm up quite a lot.

So you might ask why didn't i buy a vrs in the 1st place. Well i bought my car last December for £5500 and have spent around £1600 on it. The cheapest 2nd hand vrs I could find at that time was around £9500.

Please feel free to pm me if you have any questions.

John

JBS Auto Design · 25-08-2005, 12:00

You have lots to choose from now.
www.custom-code.co.uk is another choice.
Remap on the is £450.00 + VAT
This will go to 150bhp
Sarah

stefimke · 29-08-2005, 12:58

Very interesting info in your post... Allards.. hmm... wish we had a company like that in the Netherlands. Quite amazing that you still have your original clutch and gearbox!!!

The FMIC job, is that easy to DIY? Does it require major modifications or is it quite a straightforward job?

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnyardley

I have a pd100 engine with lots of modifications.
The modifications were made at Allards who race a golf tdi mk 4 so have a vast amount of 1.9 tdi experience.

Phase 1 mods include front mounted intercooler and remap. This did cost around £1100. The side mounted intercooler struggles to cope with the temperatures created by additional heat added by the remap, so it may go into limp mode on a hot summers day. Rolling road test results were 147 bhp and 236 lb/ft.

Phase 2 mods include adding a pd130 turbo, pd130/150 diesel injectors, k & n cone filter and remap. I haven't had it on the rolling road yet but am expecting around 175-180 bhp and around 300 lb/ft torque.

To date I have had no mechanical problems. I say this because I was worried about the transmission. Allard's advise is that they have similar experience. I think their pd130 phase 3 conversion to 224 bhp does not upgrade the clutch. Also, AMD's pd140 phase 3 conversion to 220 bhp+ does not upgrade the transmission. VW cups racing philosophy is to keep the cars as standard as possible.

devonutopia · 29-08-2005, 13:59

I have the same FMIC and it did need some angle grinding in places to get to fit where its supposed to. I have uprated the clutch though, just in case.

b1ackb1rd · 29-08-2005, 23:07

I would stick in a tuning box then spend the change on some decent wheels and tints.

My PD100 is sooo easy to drive at silly speeds, came back from darkest Lancashire at the weekend sitting in lane 3 just feathering the throttle and keeping an eye on the mpg readout to eek out the diesel ... the readout said my average speed was 82mph

Fantastic car, wouldn't change it for anything.

johnyardley · 31-08-2005, 11:41

Hi,

Re FMIC fitting if you go to the forge site they have posted fitting step-by-step instructions. I guess the Allard product would come with instructions too.

Best wishes

John
N.B But Netherlands / Loenen is the home of the motorcycle thunderstar tdi, see startwin.com

24-08-2005, 23:36	#1
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24-08-2005, 23:46	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Jabba remap alone will take the standard PD100 to 145bhp. With what I said in the PM, you'd be looking around 150 __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

25-08-2005, 00:00	#3
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25-08-2005, 09:09	#5
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,267 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 16 Thanked 353 Times in 304 Posts	Remember that Jabba's rollers overread so probably closer to 130bhp I ran a 30 quid tuning box off eBay on my PD100 (can be DIY'ed cheaper) which made a big difference to performance without creating lots of smog (sailed through MOT emissions). Claimed figures were a 20-25% improvement, but I only have the "***-dyno" confirmation rather than any real figures .... a guy at work with an Ibiza (FR?) with the PD130 engine was most surprised I could match his pace around the local country roads I also had a Green panel filter on mine, but noticed no change in performance, power or economy when I switched this back to a paper one, so I personally wouldn't bother buying one One thing which also made a big difference to overall performance was a set of Eibach springs and dampers. They didn't make the ride any more harsh, but they did stiffen it up a bit around corners. Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

25-08-2005, 09:17	#6
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	Could always try and put a PD130 engine in it eh Jason. I have posted the info on how to make a tuning box - do a search. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

25-08-2005, 09:47	#8
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	pd100 mods Hi, I have a pd100 engine with lots of modifications. The modifications were made at Allards who race a golf tdi mk 4 so have a vast amount of 1.9 tdi experience. Phase 1 mods include front mounted intercooler and remap. This did cost around £1100. The side mounted intercooler struggles to cope with the temperatures created by additional heat added by the remap, so it may go into limp mode on a hot summers day. Rolling road test results were 147 bhp and 236 lb/ft. Phase 2 mods include adding a pd130 turbo, pd130/150 diesel injectors, k & n cone filter and remap. I haven't had it on the rolling road yet but am expecting around 175-180 bhp and around 300 lb/ft torque. To date I have had no mechanical problems. I say this because I was worried about the transmission. Allard's advise is that they have similar experience. I think their pd130 phase 3 conversion to 224 bhp does not upgrade the clutch. Also, AMD's pd140 phase 3 conversion to 220 bhp+ does not upgrade the transmission. VW cups racing philosophy is to keep the cars as standard as possible. I must mention I will be upgrading to 16" wheels very soon as it will help get the power down more efficiently. I have 15" alloys on ebay here for a reasonable £60 if anyone is interested? I would like to upgrade the rather 'sombre' interior and have contact with a dismantlers who is quoting around £200 for vrs interior seats etc. Lastly, I would like to upgrade the suspension but am waiting to see the affects of the 205X45ZRX16 low profile tyres on the ride quality. Iam expecting it to firm up quite a lot. So you might ask why didn't i buy a vrs in the 1st place. Well i bought my car last December for £5500 and have spent around £1600 on it. The cheapest 2nd hand vrs I could find at that time was around £9500. Please feel free to pm me if you have any questions. John

25-08-2005, 12:00	#9
JBS Auto Design Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central UK Posts: 913 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	You have lots to choose from now. www.custom-code.co.uk is another choice. Remap on the is £450.00 + VAT This will go to 150bhp Sarah

29-08-2005, 13:59	#11
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	I have the same FMIC and it did need some angle grinding in places to get to fit where its supposed to. I have uprated the clutch though, just in case. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

29-08-2005, 23:07	#12
b1ackb1rd Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 302 Members Car: Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I would stick in a tuning box then spend the change on some decent wheels and tints. My PD100 is sooo easy to drive at silly speeds, came back from darkest Lancashire at the weekend sitting in lane 3 just feathering the throttle and keeping an eye on the mpg readout to eek out the diesel ... the readout said my average speed was 82mph Fantastic car, wouldn't change it for anything.

31-08-2005, 11:41	#13
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, Re FMIC fitting if you go to the forge site they have posted fitting step-by-step instructions. I guess the Allard product would come with instructions too. Best wishes John N.B But Netherlands / Loenen is the home of the motorcycle thunderstar tdi, see startwin.com

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