128 bhp max from pd100

striker · 07-10-2005, 15:44

Thanks everybody for trying to help.
If the fuel pump was at fault then i dont think I would be geting the standard power which I was.
There were no fault codes.
There are 2 part numbers for injectors on the atd engines and they are both the same for 2003 and 2005.
This looks like the problem may lie elsewhere.

Paul.

EddyH · 07-10-2005, 15:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by striker

Thanks everybody for trying to help.
If the fuel pump was at fault then i dont think I would be geting the standard power which I was.
There were no fault codes.
There are 2 part numbers for injectors on the atd engines and they are both the same for 2003 and 2005.
This looks like the problem may lie elsewhere.

Paul.

Not sure if it's the same on diesels but on my 1.8T 4x4 the fuel pump could cope with the demand of the standard map but threw a wobbly when it was in performance mode.

lisburn · 07-10-2005, 16:27

do u have any body mods that could reduce airflow to the intercooler, i know the cupra bumpers on normal 100 and 130 pd on our ibiza kills the power a bit ,

only other thing im seeing 3 different part numbers for turbos for the ATD engine (100hp)

038253016B
038253019P
038253019PX

the second and third numbers are probably revisions for either part exchange or rebuilt turbos but the first number is completely different , could it be a different turbo

striker · 12-10-2005, 14:51

No mods at all to block intercooler. bog standard 2005 tdi 100bhp elegance estate,
just the pd160 intake mod and green panel filter. Funny thing is it was making 108 bhp on jabbas rollers immediately before the remap so I think all must be well, just something limiting the fuelling as there was no way Micheal could make it smoke!

Paul.

**VRStu** · 12-10-2005, 15:47

Ross mentioned that these were now Euro 5 compliant and may have a particle filter.

Might be worth checking out.

striker · 12-10-2005, 16:20

Thanks stu,
where would I find the particle filter, if I have one, and what does it do?

Paul.

**VRStu** · 12-10-2005, 16:46

I would imagine it would be in the exhaust system somewhere, AFAIK it is used to reburn any particles in the exhaust gases.

Tom_vRS · 12-10-2005, 16:49

A particulate filter is similar to a catalytic converter, and would be needed to make the 1.9TDI Euro IV compliant. It basically removes the soot from the exhaust smoke. I'd imagine it to be quite restrictive, and probably easy to remove! My money lies here...

striker · 12-10-2005, 17:22

Thanks guy's. This sounds feasable as no amount of over fuelling would cause any smoke.
Now anybody know where in the exhaust system this may be?

Paul.

johnyardley · 05-11-2005, 11:28

Hi,
So here are the torque and bhp dyno charts. This pd100 had an fmic, pd130/150 injectors, pd130 turbo, decat down pipe, blanked egr. The figures are 182 bhp and 321 lb ft torque

John[IMG]C:\mydocuments\FabBHP04112005.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]C:\mydocuments\FabTorque04112005.jpg[/IMG]
N.B Not sure if the pics will upload

**VRStu** · 05-11-2005, 11:57

You've linked to your local drive John

Use the attachment option unless they are too big in which case you'll have to upload them to somewhere.

johnyardley · 08-11-2005, 11:31

Hi,
I think I have uploaded the pics now.

John

faboka vrs · 08-11-2005, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnyardley

Hi,
I think I have uploaded the pics now.

John

Nope. Can't see them.

johnyardley · 08-11-2005, 11:53

Hi, Think the images should upload now..

John

***DGW*** · 08-11-2005, 11:56

Nope again.

devonutopia · 08-11-2005, 12:04

John - If you've got my email address, send them to me and I'll host them and link them later on this evening.

As an aside - Was the 128bhp max ever resolved?

johnyardley · 08-11-2005, 12:23

Job done?

faboka vrs · 08-11-2005, 12:52

John do you know what your WHP figures are?

johnyardley · 08-11-2005, 13:30

No sorry I don't :-(

John

devonutopia · 08-11-2005, 13:47

Well, if my recent WHP/Fly HP comparisons are 100% accurate, the exact transmission loss is 10.25% for a TDI. I'd make that 163.3 WHP.

How's your clutch holding up John?

andy ellis · 08-11-2005, 18:46

Shame if its true that newer pd100's cant be pushed...... On more than one set of rollers I know mines the equal of a standard vrs with some to spare!

It will be worth the wait , Mike will sort it......

johnyardley · 08-11-2005, 22:30

Clutch is fine thks Jason

Crossed fingers

John

07-10-2005, 16:27	#28
lisburn Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: NI Posts: 82 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	do u have any body mods that could reduce airflow to the intercooler, i know the cupra bumpers on normal 100 and 130 pd on our ibiza kills the power a bit , only other thing im seeing 3 different part numbers for turbos for the ATD engine (100hp) 038253016B 038253019P 038253019PX the second and third numbers are probably revisions for either part exchange or rebuilt turbos but the first number is completely different , could it be a different turbo __________________ SACHS CLUTCH , QUAIFE ATB , CUSTOM CODE PHASE 2 STONEY

12-10-2005, 15:47	#30
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	Ross mentioned that these were now Euro 5 compliant and may have a particle filter. Might be worth checking out. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

12-10-2005, 16:46	#32
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	I would imagine it would be in the exhaust system somewhere, AFAIK it is used to reburn any particles in the exhaust gases. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

12-10-2005, 16:49	#33
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,791 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 728 Thanked 451 Times in 328 Posts	A particulate filter is similar to a catalytic converter, and would be needed to make the 1.9TDI Euro IV compliant. It basically removes the soot from the exhaust smoke. I'd imagine it to be quite restrictive, and probably easy to remove! My money lies here... __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

05-11-2005, 11:28	#35
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Pd100 max power Hi, So here are the torque and bhp dyno charts. This pd100 had an fmic, pd130/150 injectors, pd130 turbo, decat down pipe, blanked egr. The figures are 182 bhp and 321 lb ft torque John[IMG]C:\mydocuments\FabBHP04112005.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]C:\mydocuments\FabTorque04112005.jpg[/IMG] N.B Not sure if the pics will upload

07-10-2005, 15:44	#26
striker Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 54 Members Car: Civic type r Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks everybody for trying to help. If the fuel pump was at fault then i dont think I would be geting the standard power which I was. There were no fault codes. There are 2 part numbers for injectors on the atd engines and they are both the same for 2003 and 2005. This looks like the problem may lie elsewhere. Paul.

12-10-2005, 14:51	#29
striker Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 54 Members Car: Civic type r Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No mods at all to block intercooler. bog standard 2005 tdi 100bhp elegance estate, just the pd160 intake mod and green panel filter. Funny thing is it was making 108 bhp on jabbas rollers immediately before the remap so I think all must be well, just something limiting the fuelling as there was no way Micheal could make it smoke! Paul.

12-10-2005, 16:20	#31
striker Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 54 Members Car: Civic type r Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks stu, where would I find the particle filter, if I have one, and what does it do? Paul.

12-10-2005, 17:22	#34
striker Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 54 Members Car: Civic type r Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guy's. This sounds feasable as no amount of over fuelling would cause any smoke. Now anybody know where in the exhaust system this may be? Paul.

05-11-2005, 11:57	#36
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,118 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	You've linked to your local drive John Use the attachment option unless they are too big in which case you'll have to upload them to somewhere. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

08-11-2005, 11:31	#37
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi, I think I have uploaded the pics now. John

08-11-2005, 11:53	#39
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Images Hi, Think the images should upload now.. John

08-11-2005, 11:56	#40
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,394 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 67 Thanked 223 Times in 168 Posts	Nope again. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.12mpg...

08-11-2005, 12:04	#41
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	John - If you've got my email address, send them to me and I'll host them and link them later on this evening. As an aside - Was the 128bhp max ever resolved? __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

08-11-2005, 12:52	#43
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08-11-2005, 13:30	#44
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No sorry I don't :-( John

08-11-2005, 13:47	#45
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Well, if my recent WHP/Fly HP comparisons are 100% accurate, the exact transmission loss is 10.25% for a TDI. I'd make that 163.3 WHP. How's your clutch holding up John? __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

08-11-2005, 18:46	#46
andy ellis Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 1,289 Members Car: Fabia Jabba TDi & Citroen C4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Shame if its true that newer pd100's cant be pushed...... On more than one set of rollers I know mines the equal of a standard vrs with some to spare! It will be worth the wait , Mike will sort it...... __________________ Fabia TDI PD100 "Q" and driving school car. Citroen C4 Coupe 1.6hDi+EGS with disability adaptations.

08-11-2005, 22:30	#47
johnyardley Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 439 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Clutch is fine thks Jason Crossed fingers John

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