Fabia vRS warm up time

chris-P · 06-12-2004, 17:31

Hi all,

can anyone tell me hoe long on average their VRS's take to reach full operating temp in the morning?
Mine is taking approx 13-15 mins, of steady driving.
Im thinking thats far too long

Chavyboy · 06-12-2004, 17:51

Sounds about right to be fair, diesels take alot longer to warm up than petrols in my experience.

chris-P · 06-12-2004, 17:52

ah i see, thot maybe something was wrong, will have to invest in gloves

**robmawer** · 06-12-2004, 17:55

Is there not an auxiliary heater on the Fabia diesels to get the cabin warmed up quicker?

Rob.

chris-P · 06-12-2004, 17:56

robmawer, i dont think so? unless anyone knows different?

Chavyboy · 06-12-2004, 17:57

Not seen one TBH.

**robmawer** · 06-12-2004, 17:58

Well, it might not, it's just something I'd come across on other diesels, so wondered if the Fabia has one...

Looks like you might be looking a pair of gloves then! Or one of those little bar heaters which stick on the dash and plug in the ciggy lighter socket...

Rob.

chris-P · 06-12-2004, 18:00

hahah, looks like it, maybe a hot water bottle 2, makes short trips horrible!!!

Lummox · 06-12-2004, 18:34

The Fabia has both cooling system pre heaters and a electric heater for the cabin next to the heater matrix.

However they aint fitted to UK spec cars....bugger!

bryand · 06-12-2004, 18:44

I'm having the same problem - a particularly noticeable slow warm-up time, during which my Furby drinks diesel like it's OPEC Benefit Week.
I'm partway through the install of a Kenlowe HotStart system - will post details and stats when it's done. (Electrics finished; dealer is doing the plumbing on friday)

dsemuk · 06-12-2004, 18:52

My much hated a-class had a diesel heater, only worked when outside temperature dropped below about 6 degrees...

Bit embarrasing when sat in a queue of traffic on cold moring as it sounded like the car was powered by a jet engine, but it warmed the cabin up in no time, I didn't use a drop of de-icer in the four or so years I had the car.

I miss that heater, especially as my commute to work is now only 4 miles so glovers are essential on these cold mornings

WW_VRS · 06-12-2004, 19:38

Any way you could import say from Holland with that spec'd already?

SimonT · 06-12-2004, 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_VRS

Any way you could import say from Holland with that spec'd already?

Or retro fit?

SimonT · 06-12-2004, 19:48

How about an electric engine block pre-heater? I understand that some people swear that these increase engine longevity, although I don't know how well any gain weighs up against the energy costs of heating the block. Whatever, it might get the heater working sooner but perhaps the sledgehammer approach?

***Neo_VR*** · 06-12-2004, 19:56

The passat i had at the weekend had heated seats... quite nice when its feckin freezing outside. i can see their possible use on a furby.. but it didnt matter on the passat as it warmed up quick due to me thrashing it

helpmedisappear · 06-12-2004, 20:06

On some mornings on my 10 mile commute the engine is only half warmed up. Ive also seen the temp needle drop when i start moving from a jam which was very strange

Lummox · 06-12-2004, 20:17

Temp needle could well drop as when you start moving again air starts flowing through the rad again coolong the water back down, temp will also drop after the intail heat build up when the thermostat opens and lets water flow around the system.

The ASV type injection pump diesel had cooling system pre heaters for foriegn markets, much like a glow plug there were three of the sat down the side of the cylinder head in the top hose.

Never timed it but my car is normally getting hot by the time ive reached J15 on the way to work which isnt more than a couple of miles. Needle is usually on 90 degrees by then and the heater is just starting to get warm.

FunkySi · 06-12-2004, 21:24

Have the heated seats in my VRS, have to say worth every penny..................particularly as I didn't have to pay for them.

rossm · 06-12-2004, 21:49

Heated seats are an excellent option, well worthwhile! Had to pay for mine, but at £125 its a complete bargain, especially at this time of year! I got the Furby in June so didnt really appreciate how much I would use them, but I just leave them on midway setting all the time just now, and they warm your *** within seconds. Don't use the dashboard vents for heating the car at all, seats warm me up enough.

As far as the engine temperature is, I would say its changed a lot now its winter, it used to be up to about 90 in about 2 mins. Now it takes a bit longer, say about 5 mins to get there. I've never timed it exactly, but 10-15 mins seems a bit much. I will watch mines tomorrow morning and see how long it takes.

gingerVrs · 06-12-2004, 21:59

i noticed that once the car is warmed up it stays warm for a lot longer than a petrol once the engine has been switched off

logiclee · 06-12-2004, 22:09

My Octy warms up a bit quicker than my wifes Furby but they both still take ages. My last two cars Scooby and Rover 75 V6 warmed up very quickly but with the fuel they used you could have set fire to a small forest.

I had a Rover 75 CDTi as a loaner last winter and that had a diesel cabin heater, you could set a timer in the arm rest for the time you wanted it to come on. Alternatively it came with a remote control with 300 metre range so when you got up in the morning you just pointed the remote at the car outside and by the time you had eaten your breakfast the car was defrosted and the interior lovely and warm. Didn't seem to use much diesel either.

Cheers
Lee

chris-P · 07-12-2004, 11:08

so guys how long did they take to warm up this morining?

**robmawer** · 07-12-2004, 11:12

My diesel didn't hit normal operating temperature at all...too much traffic...

Rob.

***Neo_VR*** · 07-12-2004, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by logiclee

I had a Rover 75 CDTi as a loaner last winter and that had a diesel cabin heater, you could set a timer in the arm rest for the time you wanted it to come on. Alternatively it came with a remote control with 300 metre range so when you got up in the morning you just pointed the remote at the car outside and by the time you had eaten your breakfast the car was defrosted and the interior lovely and warm. Didn't seem to use much diesel either.

Cheers
Lee

now that IS cool

WW_VRS · 07-12-2004, 15:19

Any reason these heaters couldn't be retro-fitted?

06-12-2004, 17:31	#1
chris-P Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fabia vRS warm up time Hi all, can anyone tell me hoe long on average their VRS's take to reach full operating temp in the morning? Mine is taking approx 13-15 mins, of steady driving. Im thinking thats far too long

06-12-2004, 17:51	#2
Chavyboy Proud Dad Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Darkest Deepest Peterborough Posts: 3,789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds about right to be fair, diesels take alot longer to warm up than petrols in my experience. __________________ 2004 '54' Citroen Picasso 1.6 16v Desire HDI in Wicked Red 2004 '54' Vauxhall Corsa 1.3 CDTI Energy Ex Skoda owner

06-12-2004, 17:55	#4
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,478 Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	Is there not an auxiliary heater on the Fabia diesels to get the cabin warmed up quicker? Rob. __________________

06-12-2004, 17:57	#6
Chavyboy Proud Dad Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Darkest Deepest Peterborough Posts: 3,789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not seen one TBH. __________________ 2004 '54' Citroen Picasso 1.6 16v Desire HDI in Wicked Red 2004 '54' Vauxhall Corsa 1.3 CDTI Energy Ex Skoda owner

06-12-2004, 17:58	#7
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,478 Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	Well, it might not, it's just something I'd come across on other diesels, so wondered if the Fabia has one... Looks like you might be looking a pair of gloves then! Or one of those little bar heaters which stick on the dash and plug in the ciggy lighter socket... Rob. __________________

06-12-2004, 17:52	#3
chris-P Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ah i see, thot maybe something was wrong, will have to invest in gloves

06-12-2004, 17:56	#5
chris-P Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	robmawer, i dont think so? unless anyone knows different?

06-12-2004, 18:00	#8
chris-P Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hahah, looks like it, maybe a hot water bottle 2, makes short trips horrible!!!

06-12-2004, 18:34	#9
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,273 Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 734 Times in 616 Posts	The Fabia has both cooling system pre heaters and a electric heater for the cabin next to the heater matrix. However they aint fitted to UK spec cars....bugger! __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services www.unit18.co.uk

06-12-2004, 18:44	#10
bryand Fabian Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,769 Thanks: 1 Thanked 21 Times in 19 Posts	Slow warm-up I'm having the same problem - a particularly noticeable slow warm-up time, during which my Furby drinks diesel like it's OPEC Benefit Week. I'm partway through the install of a Kenlowe HotStart system - will post details and stats when it's done. (Electrics finished; dealer is doing the plumbing on friday)

06-12-2004, 18:52	#11
dsemuk Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 952 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	My much hated a-class had a diesel heater, only worked when outside temperature dropped below about 6 degrees... Bit embarrasing when sat in a queue of traffic on cold moring as it sounded like the car was powered by a jet engine, but it warmed the cabin up in no time, I didn't use a drop of de-icer in the four or so years I had the car. I miss that heater, especially as my commute to work is now only 4 miles so glovers are essential on these cold mornings

06-12-2004, 19:38	#12
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,852 Thanks: 45 Thanked 81 Times in 71 Posts	Any way you could import say from Holland with that spec'd already?

06-12-2004, 19:48	#14
SimonT Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How about an electric engine block pre-heater? I understand that some people swear that these increase engine longevity, although I don't know how well any gain weighs up against the energy costs of heating the block. Whatever, it might get the heater working sooner but perhaps the sledgehammer approach? __________________ Si

06-12-2004, 19:56	#15
*Neo_VR* Om nom nom nom Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,407 Thanks: 77 Thanked 175 Times in 124 Posts	The passat i had at the weekend had heated seats... quite nice when its feckin freezing outside. i can see their possible use on a furby.. but it didnt matter on the passat as it warmed up quick due to me thrashing it __________________ ColGod the UberMod ,___, [O.o] /)__) -"--"- ORLY??

06-12-2004, 20:06	#16
helpmedisappear Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bolton Posts: 1,763 Thanks: 36 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	On some mornings on my 10 mile commute the engine is only half warmed up. Ive also seen the temp needle drop when i start moving from a jam which was very strange __________________ Martin Black Magic Fabia vRSv

06-12-2004, 20:17	#17
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,273 Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 734 Times in 616 Posts	Temp needle could well drop as when you start moving again air starts flowing through the rad again coolong the water back down, temp will also drop after the intail heat build up when the thermostat opens and lets water flow around the system. The ASV type injection pump diesel had cooling system pre heaters for foriegn markets, much like a glow plug there were three of the sat down the side of the cylinder head in the top hose. Never timed it but my car is normally getting hot by the time ive reached J15 on the way to work which isnt more than a couple of miles. Needle is usually on 90 degrees by then and the heater is just starting to get warm. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services www.unit18.co.uk

06-12-2004, 21:24	#18
FunkySi Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 103 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Heated Butt Have the heated seats in my VRS, have to say worth every penny..................particularly as I didn't have to pay for them. __________________ May the Funk be with you undefined Black Magic VRS with lots of toys, Red Dragon box, green filter, pd160 intake and pikey mods, dip and main beam upgrades.

06-12-2004, 21:49	#19
rossm Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Stirling, Scotland Posts: 413 Thanks: 3 Thanked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Heated seats are an excellent option, well worthwhile! Had to pay for mine, but at £125 its a complete bargain, especially at this time of year! I got the Furby in June so didnt really appreciate how much I would use them, but I just leave them on midway setting all the time just now, and they warm your *** within seconds. Don't use the dashboard vents for heating the car at all, seats warm me up enough. As far as the engine temperature is, I would say its changed a lot now its winter, it used to be up to about 90 in about 2 mins. Now it takes a bit longer, say about 5 mins to get there. I've never timed it exactly, but 10-15 mins seems a bit much. I will watch mines tomorrow morning and see how long it takes.

06-12-2004, 21:59	#20
gingerVrs Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: newcastle Posts: 190 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i noticed that once the car is warmed up it stays warm for a lot longer than a petrol once the engine has been switched off __________________ "I am not bothered about the smoke that comes out the back of my car" I'm not behind it

06-12-2004, 22:09	#21
logiclee Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	My Octy warms up a bit quicker than my wifes Furby but they both still take ages. My last two cars Scooby and Rover 75 V6 warmed up very quickly but with the fuel they used you could have set fire to a small forest. I had a Rover 75 CDTi as a loaner last winter and that had a diesel cabin heater, you could set a timer in the arm rest for the time you wanted it to come on. Alternatively it came with a remote control with 300 metre range so when you got up in the morning you just pointed the remote at the car outside and by the time you had eaten your breakfast the car was defrosted and the interior lovely and warm. Didn't seem to use much diesel either. Cheers Lee __________________ Another Ex-Scooby owner. Mondeo TDCi 130 6 Speed Ghia, Octavia 1.9TDi Elegance (Now Sold), Fabia 1.9TDi Comfort and Felicia 1.9D GLi

07-12-2004, 11:08	#22
chris-P Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	so guys how long did they take to warm up this morining?

07-12-2004, 11:12	#23
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,478 Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	My diesel didn't hit normal operating temperature at all...too much traffic... Rob. __________________

07-12-2004, 15:19	#25
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,852 Thanks: 45 Thanked 81 Times in 71 Posts	Any reason these heaters couldn't be retro-fitted?

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