Flickering dash and headlights

devonutopia · 08-08-2006, 23:34

I know exactly what causes it too. Its the power being demanded / used by the PAS pump oscillating due to the dodgy sensor. Have steering going very light, very heavy, then eventually PAS kind of dies and the flickering stops. Must be mildly amusing for traffic I'm following at night wondering why my car's lights are like a disco.

Would rather have working PAS all the time though.

Lummox · 09-08-2006, 07:34

Sounds like it could just be a dodgy battery.

The PAS system requires 12v. If its not getting that then the steering will cut out.

**mannyo** · 09-08-2006, 08:31

Jason, try and do something about it the next week and a bit. I dont want to get to germany on Saturday and see your car on the back of an ADAC breakdown wagon.

devonutopia · 09-08-2006, 13:31

Well, a scan of fault codes has definitely highlighted the PAS sensor as being in need of replacement (intermittent fault) and indeed the lights dimming coincides with the steering going light as if the steering system is sucking up juice, and once the PAS goes into limp mode, the lights stop flickering and it remains fine.

Manny - would like to get a new sensor fitted a.s.a.p, but they're on backlog. This issue is not going to be a problem, but if there's doubt over the voltage of the battery, I'll bring along some jump leads as well as the usual gear.

Having no PAS will not affect it on track, as I don't even realise its gone when at speed.

LouisTsui · 09-08-2006, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

I know exactly what causes it too. Its the power being demanded / used by the PAS pump oscillating due to the dodgy sensor. Have steering going very light, very heavy, then eventually PAS kind of dies and the flickering stops. Must be mildly amusing for traffic I'm following at night wondering why my car's lights are like a disco.

Would rather have working PAS all the time though.

I have the exact disco headlights problem on my 1.4 16v. Yeah, I could live without PAS, but the steering go light at speed isn't cool. Does yours rev counter bounce up and down, and the car shake synchronous with the flickering?

I replaced the temperature sensor, but it won't cure it. Will try to replace PAS sensor next, then a new battery.

devonutopia · 09-08-2006, 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisTsui

I have the exact disco headlights problem on my 1.4 16v. Yeah, I could live without PAS, but the steering go light at speed isn't cool. Does yours rev counter bounce up and down, and the car shake synchronous with the flickering?

Nope - everything is fine apart from the lights. Rev counter and general engine management / running is spot on.

Lummox · 09-08-2006, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisTsui

I have the exact disco headlights problem on my 1.4 16v. Yeah, I could live without PAS, but the steering go light at speed isn't cool. Does yours rev counter bounce up and down, and the car shake synchronous with the flickering?

I replaced the temperature sensor, but it won't cure it. Will try to replace PAS sensor next, then a new battery.

The revs will bounce up and down if the battery has been flat and/or if the voltage is getting low.

devonpaul · 12-08-2006, 10:43

just to say i took my fabia 1.4 petrol into newton abbot skoda about flickering headlights and they said is very common problem . They tested charging circuit everything ok including battery and alternator, said like previous posts that steering has big demand from battery and best to live with it!

ric04vrs · 12-08-2006, 12:46

Jason ,theres me worrying about going to the Nring and my cars got nowt wrong with it ,and you've got flickering lights and dodgy power steering LOL

L-Y-K · 12-08-2006, 19:30

its not very safe on the road tho when the p/s kicks out.... you loose the control round the bend and at high speeds you need to adjust quick - result to accidents ...either have it on or off!! lol dont break yourself!

Fabia156 · 12-08-2006, 20:27

I'm used to my lights flickering all the time..I didnt replace the sensor yet because this problem only appears if i switch the car on and just drive, if i wait for like 30 secs of a min its all fine

flippa · 19-08-2006, 22:14

Had this problem on my 1.9 SDI. Got the pas sensor replaced and everything was fine.

Skodaboy1983 · 20-02-2008, 09:05

I've had a quick search on the dash flickering put this morning when I was defrosting the car I noticed my interior light was flickering, thought nothing of it, but jumped in the car, stuck the headlights and gave the windscreen a quick wipe with the wipers and the dashboard green light that lights the speedo and rev counter went off and on, not done it since any ideas?

Davy

heresmo · 20-02-2008, 11:27

Hi. I've no idea, but noticed my PAS light (and power steering lost) for a moment or two (switch off, switch on after a minute) when temp below zero. Maybe can't draw enough from battery which is trying hard already to keep other bits going?

I've a 1.4 which doesn't seem to be ace at managing power requirements for PAS and AC, so probs not relevant (except for switching AC off). On mine, it's deffo worth making sure the battery has a good charge.

Please treat as a bump

Mo

Skodaboy1983 · 20-02-2008, 11:37

thats what I thought it was that the battery could not cope but it was just above freezing and no more and it was not a bad frost today.

vicount · 08-08-2008, 00:11

ive got the same problem with the flickering headlights, seems to happen when i drain power from the battery,, ie when the fan is on 4 and the stereo is up pretty high, wud that effect the headlights??

bengie · 08-08-2008, 17:11

yes, i can make my headlights dip in ym octavia due to my stereo.

ruku · 08-08-2008, 22:23

I've got the exact same problem by the sounds of it Jason!

Lummox · 09-08-2008, 06:31

Your car has a 45-65 ah hour battery depending on model/engine. That means the battery can supply 45-65 amps for one hour without the alternator charging. Forgetting the alternator for the moment when you consider the PAS pump can draw 60 amps at full load that doesnt leave a lot of capacity for anything else let alone lights and blower motors etc.

08-08-2006, 23:34	#1
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,078 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 73 Thanked 350 Times in 293 Posts	Flickering dash and headlights I know exactly what causes it too. Its the power being demanded / used by the PAS pump oscillating due to the dodgy sensor. Have steering going very light, very heavy, then eventually PAS kind of dies and the flickering stops. Must be mildly amusing for traffic I'm following at night wondering why my car's lights are like a disco. Would rather have working PAS all the time though. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

09-08-2006, 07:34	#2
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,425 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 746 Times in 626 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Sounds like it could just be a dodgy battery. The PAS system requires 12v. If its not getting that then the steering will cut out. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

09-08-2006, 08:31	#3
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,465 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 359 Times in 330 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Jason, try and do something about it the next week and a bit. I dont want to get to germany on Saturday and see your car on the back of an ADAC breakdown wagon. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

09-08-2006, 13:31	#4
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,078 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 73 Thanked 350 Times in 293 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Well, a scan of fault codes has definitely highlighted the PAS sensor as being in need of replacement (intermittent fault) and indeed the lights dimming coincides with the steering going light as if the steering system is sucking up juice, and once the PAS goes into limp mode, the lights stop flickering and it remains fine. Manny - would like to get a new sensor fitted a.s.a.p, but they're on backlog. This issue is not going to be a problem, but if there's doubt over the voltage of the battery, I'll bring along some jump leads as well as the usual gear. Having no PAS will not affect it on track, as I don't even realise its gone when at speed. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

12-08-2006, 10:43	#8
devonpaul Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights just to say i took my fabia 1.4 petrol into newton abbot skoda about flickering headlights and they said is very common problem . They tested charging circuit everything ok including battery and alternator, said like previous posts that steering has big demand from battery and best to live with it!

12-08-2006, 12:46	#9
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,166 Members Car: silver Fabia VRS Thanks: 31 Thanked 187 Times in 181 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Jason ,theres me worrying about going to the Nring and my cars got nowt wrong with it ,and you've got flickering lights and dodgy power steering LOL __________________ not so bored now

12-08-2006, 19:30	#10
L-Y-K Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A30 Newquay Cornwall Posts: 4,223 Members Car: Fabia 1.9 TDI Thanks: 39 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights its not very safe on the road tho when the p/s kicks out.... you loose the control round the bend and at high speeds you need to adjust quick - result to accidents ...either have it on or off!! lol dont break yourself! __________________ Fabia Bohemia Mods - 16" BBS Montreal's, Blaupunkt Rome nav, fitted front and rear areo wipers, rear OEM speakers fitted, vw damped grab handles.

12-08-2006, 20:27	#11
Fabia156 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 619 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights I'm used to my lights flickering all the time..I didnt replace the sensor yet because this problem only appears if i switch the car on and just drive, if i wait for like 30 secs of a min its all fine __________________ 1.4 16V

19-08-2006, 22:14	#12
flippa Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Had this problem on my 1.9 SDI. Got the pas sensor replaced and everything was fine.

20-02-2008, 09:05	#13
Skodaboy1983 Skoda Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Lothian Posts: 9,750 Members Car: Skoda Fabia VRS 130 Thanks: 384 Thanked 270 Times in 262 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights I've had a quick search on the dash flickering put this morning when I was defrosting the car I noticed my interior light was flickering, thought nothing of it, but jumped in the car, stuck the headlights and gave the windscreen a quick wipe with the wipers and the dashboard green light that lights the speedo and rev counter went off and on, not done it since any ideas? Davy

20-02-2008, 11:27	#14
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,550 Members Car: Thanks: 50 Thanked 142 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Hi. I've no idea, but noticed my PAS light (and power steering lost) for a moment or two (switch off, switch on after a minute) when temp below zero. Maybe can't draw enough from battery which is trying hard already to keep other bits going? I've a 1.4 which doesn't seem to be ace at managing power requirements for PAS and AC, so probs not relevant (except for switching AC off). On mine, it's deffo worth making sure the battery has a good charge. Please treat as a bump Mo __________________

20-02-2008, 11:37	#15
Skodaboy1983 Skoda Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Lothian Posts: 9,750 Members Car: Skoda Fabia VRS 130 Thanks: 384 Thanked 270 Times in 262 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights thats what I thought it was that the battery could not cope but it was just above freezing and no more and it was not a bad frost today.

08-08-2008, 00:11	#16
vicount Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 18 Members Car: Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights ive got the same problem with the flickering headlights, seems to happen when i drain power from the battery,, ie when the fan is on 4 and the stereo is up pretty high, wud that effect the headlights??

08-08-2008, 17:11	#17
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,249 Members Car: 4x4 turbo estate Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights yes, i can make my headlights dip in ym octavia due to my stereo. __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

08-08-2008, 22:23	#18
ruku Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 609 Members Car: Fabia 1.9tdi comfort Thanks: 36 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights I've got the exact same problem by the sounds of it Jason! __________________ Join the social group : http://briskoda.net/groups/modded+fabia+nutcases/ It make's your car faster! total group bhp to date is 2944.9bhp!!!!!!!

09-08-2008, 06:31	#19
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,425 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 746 Times in 626 Posts	Re: Flickering dash and headlights Your car has a 45-65 ah hour battery depending on model/engine. That means the battery can supply 45-65 amps for one hour without the alternator charging. Forgetting the alternator for the moment when you consider the PAS pump can draw 60 amps at full load that doesnt leave a lot of capacity for anything else let alone lights and blower motors etc. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

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