Ibiza Cupra FMIC - Part numbers and illustration

Fabia RS · 01-04-2005, 21:31

Hi all,

I have searched the forum over and over for this info. Maybe I just missed it, but anyway here it is for those, who would like to install this monster on their Furby:

Fabia RS · 01-04-2005, 21:54

And to top myself

Here are part numbers and illustration for the original SMIC on the Fabia vRS.

It can be used in comparison to the other doc, so you can identify which parts you need to buy, and more important; which parts you don't have to buy because they are identical

WW_VRS · 01-04-2005, 22:35

Wanna top it some more and compile a 3rd doc with which bits to buy then

Fabia RS · 04-04-2005, 18:30

ok, I finally had time to make the comparison, and here's the sad news:

Only one part is the same, and I'm not even sure about that one.

It's the airpipe no. 6Q0 145 770 N and why this should be the same on both cars, I really don't understand, as the pipes connecting to this piece of pipe are not the same (not even same diameter).

So when I buy, I think I'll be buying all items from the Cupra list, unless someone, who has already done the job, can confirm that this piece of pipe really is the same on both IC systems?

List is still pretty usefull though. You can just print it, and go straight to your nearest Seat dealer to order all the parts.

ftojeTDI · 04-04-2005, 18:47

And what would be the price for the whole package?

SkodiRS · 04-04-2005, 19:05

Will the FMIC fit i.e is there enough space between the radiator and the crash bar?

Flamby · 04-04-2005, 20:01

that is brilliant thankyou for the info mate!
Ive asked about the price before and the fmic itself is the cheap part... in the region of 250 but the piping.... something in the region of 500 so I've heard, its an expensive mod sadly

good to have that info though .
Dan

HellFire · 04-04-2005, 21:31

Only person who has done this mod I believe is vRS_Barry

Glider · 04-04-2005, 21:58

Starperformance have it all worked out, there is some "bumper bar mods" to be carried out and cutting some off the front outer bumper. Give them a call for a quote. From what I remember it's a fair price considering the cost of the parts. I've seen it sone to a few of their tunned cars now. Neat job.

***Neo_VR*** · 04-04-2005, 22:33

To buy all the required parts, from a seat dealer will cost the a fair wad of cash.. if parts were bought from seat.
I belive Allard do a fmic solution, altho its far from "oe look"

WW_VRS · 04-04-2005, 23:04

Retail it basically sucks price wise - wonders about pre-retail pricing

Fabia RS · 04-04-2005, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by black magic

Starperformance have it all worked out, there is some "bumper bar mods" to be carried out and cutting some off the front outer bumper. Give them a call for a quote. From what I remember it's a fair price considering the cost of the parts. I've seen it sone to a few of their tunned cars now. Neat job.

This FMIC is OEM and for the Fabia vRS there should be no bumper mods or cuts in the front spoiler (going on research info, so don't hang me if I'm wrong).
It is true that Ibiza owners have had to cut their spoiler in order to fit the FMIC, but that is because they don't have the Cupra spoiler (well Cupra owners do, but they already have the FMIC too

)

We already have an extended spoiler, which is pretty similar in dimensions to the Ibiza Cupra spoiler, and it has plenty of room for an FMIC.
Our spoiler is based on the WRC spoiler, which has a monster FMIC behind it (I think this was in fact a quote from Ross Clarke back in 2004), so I really don't think any cuts or adjustments are needed for the Fabia vRS.

Price wise it's true, it's expensive. A guy from Cupra.net showed me his invoice, and it's around 900£, then you have to fit it yourself (actually quite easy, even for non-pro-mechanics) or pay extra for that too.

So naturally it will scare off most people, but I'm willing to put down the money to buy a FMIC, which was specifically designed for this (base) engine and enginebay. OEM is always more expensive, but it's functionality has also been properly tested.
Fx. You have no way of knowing how an universal FMIC will effect the cooling of your radiator behind it, but I'm pretty sure the VAG people tested and OK'ed this, before putting the Cupra FMIC in production.

It's a high-roller item I guess

Fabia RS · 05-04-2005, 00:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_VRS

Retail it basically sucks price wise - wonders about pre-retail pricing

Well if anybody stumble across a parallel-importer for Seat parts, then pleaaase let us all know

I've found one for Skoda in my country, he orders directly from a Czech going by the factory every day to pick up parts and then ship'em on to my country.
Quite a differnce in price I can tell you

Two problems with this importer though:
Very old fashion and has no parts cataloque + not very reliable

He only imports Skoda parts.

So if anybody knows of an english Seat parallel-importer, who can order from spain at pretail price, please come forward now

FabiaTDi · 05-04-2005, 00:30

£900 without fitting seems mad to spend on the ibiza FMIC and its not even a straight forward fit without mods to the bumper.

At around £800 including fitting for an Allard one that will fit (okay it doesnt exactly look OE) but would perform at least as well is surely a better bet.

Maybe the SEAT FMIC but with seperate custom pipes made up could be worth a look. I think Ross clarke was looking at this before he sold his.

Fabia RS · 05-04-2005, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by FabiaTDi

£900 without fitting seems mad to spend on the ibiza FMIC and its not even a straight forward fit without mods to the bumper.

.

Is this bumper mod really confirmed by any Fabia vRS owners, who have actually fitted the Cupra FMIC, or is it just you blowing smoke?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FabiaTDi

Maybe the SEAT FMIC but with seperate custom pipes made up could be worth a look. I think Ross clarke was looking at this before he sold his.

Not such a bad idea at all. If someone with the know-how could make a custom pipe kit for the Cupra FMIC, then surely I would be up for one.

FabiaTDi · 05-04-2005, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabia RS

Is this bumper mod really confirmed by any Fabia vRS owners, who have actually fitted the Cupra FMIC, or is it just you blowing smoke?

Not such a bad idea at all. If someone with the know-how could make a custom pipe kit for the Cupra FMIC, then surely I would be up for one.

Not blowing smoke - just assumed black magic's earlier post about Star Performance was based on fact.

Allard in threory should be able to make some pipes up, although they may prefer to use their own fmic.

Fabia RS · 05-04-2005, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by FabiaTDi

Not blowing smoke - just assumed black magic's earlier post about Star Performance was based on fact.

Allard in threory should be able to make some pipes up, although they may prefer to use their own fmic.

I had a PM from Black Magic about Star Performance, so I visited their site.
I strongly suspect they're fitting their own FMIC and not the OEM, but no pics to confirm this.

What I'm going on, is pictures from the OEM FMIC being fitted on a Ibiza 130 PD (found at Cupra.net), and only part, which had to be hacksawed was the bottom of the bumper.
Look at img 0216 here: http://photo.ing.me.uk/fmic

-But that bumper is a standard Ibiza bumper, and our bumper is lower and pretty much has the same dimensions as the Cupra 160 PD front bumper, so I'm still convinced we would not have to cut the vRS bumper (and I'm talking about the OEM FMIC now

).

FabiaTDi · 05-04-2005, 23:28

Yes i have seen the pictures before on SCnet. maybe it would fit the vRS bumper but theres also the crash bar to be taken into account..

I do prefer the design of the seat fmic to the allard one. The outlet piping with the allard fmic runs over the slam panel and it looks like you would have to re-route the airbox intake.

see link for fabia pd100fmic

http://www.allardmotorcompany.co.uk/allard.asp

Fabia RS · 06-04-2005, 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by FabiaTDi

Yes i have seen the pictures before on SCnet. maybe it would fit the vRS bumper but theres also the crash bar to be taken into account..

Well, I have studied my catalogue closely for difference in front-body-structure (regarding the crash bar), but i can't say for sure.

I guess time will tell

KentStu · 06-04-2005, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabia RS

Well, I have studied my catalogue closely for difference in front-body-structure (regarding the crash bar), but i can't say for sure.

I guess time will tell

PM Vrs-Barry - he had a Seat FMIC on his Fabia so should be able to give you the gospel on it.

Glider · 06-04-2005, 16:52

I've seen Barrys mod, the first, then subsequent mods to another (Stars 3rd.), THEY DO REQUIRE MINOR CUTTING.

Fabia RS · 06-04-2005, 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by black magic

I've seen Barrys mod, the first, then subsequent mods to another (Stars 3rd.), THEY DO REQUIRE MINOR CUTTING.

Where and how much? -Also is it visible from the outside?

Do you know if Barry has any pictures?

HellFire · 07-04-2005, 11:32

Barry has apparently put his vRS back to standard bar the remap and leather interior.

01-04-2005, 22:35	#3
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,869 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 85 Times in 75 Posts	Wanna top it some more and compile a 3rd doc with which bits to buy then __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

04-04-2005, 18:30	#4
Fabia RS Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 84 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok, I finally had time to make the comparison, and here's the sad news: Only one part is the same, and I'm not even sure about that one. It's the airpipe no. 6Q0 145 770 N and why this should be the same on both cars, I really don't understand, as the pipes connecting to this piece of pipe are not the same (not even same diameter). So when I buy, I think I'll be buying all items from the Cupra list, unless someone, who has already done the job, can confirm that this piece of pipe really is the same on both IC systems? List is still pretty usefull though. You can just print it, and go straight to your nearest Seat dealer to order all the parts. __________________ Fabia RS the ultimate toy for real men!

04-04-2005, 19:05	#6
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Will the FMIC fit i.e is there enough space between the radiator and the crash bar? __________________ Adrian.

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HellFire Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 3,174 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Only person who has done this mod I believe is vRS_Barry __________________ Metro Blue '06' 5 Door Astra 1.8 SRi

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*Neo_VR* Om nom nom nom Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,458 Members Car: A White Car Thanks: 78 Thanked 176 Times in 125 Posts	To buy all the required parts, from a seat dealer will cost the a fair wad of cash.. if parts were bought from seat. I belive Allard do a fmic solution, altho its far from "oe look" __________________ ColGod the UberMod ,___, [O.o] /)__) -"--"- ORLY?? Last edited by Neo_VR; 04-04-2005 at 23:10.

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ftojeTDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Serbia Posts: 194 Members Car: 1.9 tdi elegance Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	And what would be the price for the whole package?

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Flamby Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: South of England Posts: 22 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	that is brilliant thankyou for the info mate! Ive asked about the price before and the fmic itself is the cheap part... in the region of 250 but the piping.... something in the region of 500 so I've heard, its an expensive mod sadly good to have that info though . Dan

04-04-2005, 21:58	#9
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,432 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Starperformance have it all worked out, there is some "bumper bar mods" to be carried out and cutting some off the front outer bumper. Give them a call for a quote. From what I remember it's a fair price considering the cost of the parts. I've seen it sone to a few of their tunned cars now. Neat job.

04-04-2005, 23:04	#11
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,869 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 85 Times in 75 Posts	Retail it basically sucks price wise - wonders about pre-retail pricing __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

05-04-2005, 00:30	#14
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,001 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	£900 without fitting seems mad to spend on the ibiza FMIC and its not even a straight forward fit without mods to the bumper. At around £800 including fitting for an Allard one that will fit (okay it doesnt exactly look OE) but would perform at least as well is surely a better bet. Maybe the SEAT FMIC but with seperate custom pipes made up could be worth a look. I think Ross clarke was looking at this before he sold his. __________________ Was: 2003 Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: 2008 Audi A3 Sportback TDI

05-04-2005, 23:28	#18
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,001 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes i have seen the pictures before on SCnet. maybe it would fit the vRS bumper but theres also the crash bar to be taken into account.. I do prefer the design of the seat fmic to the allard one. The outlet piping with the allard fmic runs over the slam panel and it looks like you would have to re-route the airbox intake. see link for fabia pd100fmic http://www.allardmotorcompany.co.uk/allard.asp __________________ Was: 2003 Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: 2008 Audi A3 Sportback TDI

06-04-2005, 16:52	#21
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,432 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	I've seen Barrys mod, the first, then subsequent mods to another (Stars 3rd.), THEY DO REQUIRE MINOR CUTTING.

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HellFire Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 3,174 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Barry has apparently put his vRS back to standard bar the remap and leather interior. __________________ Metro Blue '06' 5 Door Astra 1.8 SRi

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