Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs

zacherynuk · 23-08-2007, 18:48

Heyup,

My mate is getting an Ibiza TDI - anybody know if I'll be jealous ?

Cheers

Seb · 23-08-2007, 18:50

Pretty much the same car as the Fabia arnt they?

Id be very happy with either, but I think the Fabia is a little less girly than the Ibiza.

zacherynuk · 23-08-2007, 18:53

This is the Gist I get too... Wondering if the fancy Seat 'Agile Chasis' will give it the edge though..

Lummox · 23-08-2007, 18:54

SEAT tends to be a bit more bumpy I find. Nice car though.

ultra_joel88 · 23-08-2007, 18:54

You won't be jealous when you sit inside it.

Dash looks like its made from Mcdonalds toys.

And the looks aren't really my thing. Not a fan of the "I'm angry because I'm so constipated look".

But then again the Fabia does have the "I'm just a bit sleepy" look.

Jon TDI · 23-08-2007, 19:33

A mate at work used to have the Ibiza TDI Sport & there was virtually no difference between the two. Although the Ibiza had a firmer ride than the Fabia.

TDi Vrs · 23-08-2007, 22:47

is it the pd 130 or the pd160 though?

zacherynuk · 23-08-2007, 23:09

Ooooh 130 I think... Will have to check! 160 and I will be gutted

ultra_joel88 · 23-08-2007, 23:17

160 is the Cupra

FR is 130

Pre-03 Sport is 130

03 on Sport is 110 I think

Dave_Fox · 23-08-2007, 23:49

The vRS is more desirable I think. You see a Sport TDI on the road and think oh... just another Seat. The vRS is more interesting to look at, therefore imo better

kurtz15 · 24-08-2007, 00:34

in the past few months max power did an article putting these 2 cars against eachother, was a good read, the skoda fabia vrs won, but only slightly... search back issues if you want to read.

kurtz15 · 24-08-2007, 00:36

'DONT BE FOOLED BY THE BADGE. Thats the moral of the story where diesal hot hatches are concerned, as the Skoda Fabia vRS has just nicked victory from the Seat Ibiza TDi FR.

The contest was close, but that was to be expected with two cars that share the same engine and platform, but it was the little things that made the difference.

Although the Ibiza may have the styling edge, there is still a distinct air of cool around the Skoda's squared off panelling.

The performance of the two was near identical, but it was the more complete feel, steering and ride of the Skoda that just edged it over the more raw, sporty Ibiza.

With both cars being so fast, useable, fun and economical, the real question is not which of these is best, but whether you really need a petrol to have a great hot hatch'

They also liked the vRS for modifying potential;

'Anonymity - The subtle styling lends itself well to the Euro Style customisation, and its unassuming stance means it is a great sleeper. Just see the faces of other hot hatch owners when you leave them choking on Skoda rubber!'

Lummox · 24-08-2007, 07:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra_joel88

160 is the Cupra

FR is 130

Pre-03 Sport is 130

03 on Sport is 110 I think

Nope they didnt make a 110 PD and all Ibizas bar the SDi are PD. All Sports (of the diesel variety) are 130bhp.

Fezboy · 24-08-2007, 07:52

The most annoying things about the Seat were:

Headlights misting
Windscreen misting
Dash/door rattles
Hard ride
1,000,000,000,000,000 other people had them!

ScoobyChris · 24-08-2007, 08:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

All Sports (of the diesel variety) are 130bhp.

I'm sure when I was looking at them there were a lot of 110 (non-PD) TDI's? They could be told apart from the Sport because they only had the 5-speed gearbox. I think the 110 engine was dropped at the facelift and the range became solely PD's...

Chris

Lummox · 24-08-2007, 08:34

Nope, there is a 100PD which had a five speed gearbox but thats not a Sport

The 110 bhp non PD was only available in the MK3 Sport.

ultra_joel88 · 24-08-2007, 11:07

SEAT Ibiza - 1.9TDi Sport (100ps) 3d - Technical Data - Parker's

Lummox · 24-08-2007, 11:10

News to me, dont ever remember us selling one, I think thats incorrect. I think the 100PD was S and SE spec, much like the 100PD Fabia and vRS.

tdirob · 24-08-2007, 11:14

There are loads of 110bhp Diesel Sports kicking about on Autotrader at the minute.

Lummox · 24-08-2007, 11:17

Links?

They only fitted the PD engine (bar the SDi) to the Mk4 Ibiza (the same as the Fabia).

Mind you we had a link a while back and the garage selling the Ibiza admitted they didnt know a thing about it.

Lummox · 24-08-2007, 11:23

Just checked the seat uk website and they list all the Ibizas made. The 110bhp Ibiza Sport...

SEAT IBIZA 1.9 TDI 110 Sport 3-Door HATCHBACK

a MK3.

Big Mikey · 24-08-2007, 11:32

Off topic just slightly, but does anyone remember the Top Gear where the vRS beat the Mini Cooper S?

Lummox · 24-08-2007, 11:42

And the million threads on here that followed? Yeah I think I remember it..lol

ultra_joel88 · 24-08-2007, 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Mikey

Off topic just slightly, but does anyone remember the Top Gear where the vRS beat the Mini Cooper S?

It was a normal cooper not a cooper s.

Quoted at 8.8 seconds 0-60.

Type fabia vrs top gear into google video.

TomH · 24-08-2007, 12:37

The Ibiza TDI sport looks the same as any other ibiza with alloys - so more stealthy but also not actually as sporty in appearance.

When I test drove one I felt the hard ride that is the first thing that everyone says about them! It did feel a little quicker though (and might be a bit lighter I suppose)

I think the 100bhp is now a sport and the 130s are badged FR

23-08-2007, 18:48	#1
zacherynuk Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Heyup, My mate is getting an Ibiza TDI - anybody know if I'll be jealous ? Cheers

23-08-2007, 18:50	#2
Seb Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Redditch/Worcester Posts: 46 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Pretty much the same car as the Fabia arnt they? Id be very happy with either, but I think the Fabia is a little less girly than the Ibiza. __________________ Oh look, I have a blog! http://spiers.gb.com

23-08-2007, 18:53	#3
zacherynuk Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs This is the Gist I get too... Wondering if the fancy Seat 'Agile Chasis' will give it the edge though..

23-08-2007, 18:54	#4
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs SEAT tends to be a bit more bumpy I find. Nice car though. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

23-08-2007, 18:54	#5
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,540 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 26 Thanked 115 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs You won't be jealous when you sit inside it. Dash looks like its made from Mcdonalds toys. And the looks aren't really my thing. Not a fan of the "I'm angry because I'm so constipated look". But then again the Fabia does have the "I'm just a bit sleepy" look. __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

23-08-2007, 19:33	#6
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,226 Members Car: SEAT Leon TDI Sport Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs A mate at work used to have the Ibiza TDI Sport & there was virtually no difference between the two. Although the Ibiza had a firmer ride than the Fabia. __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille. Also driving around in a Mini ONE that thinks it's a Cooper! John Cooper Works airbox, Superchips Bluefin remap, Sprint Booster, 17" Cooper S Spokes

23-08-2007, 22:47	#7
TDi Vrs Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: HEREFORD Posts: 351 Members Car: SKODA FABIA vRS Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs is it the pd 130 or the pd160 though? __________________ 07 Fabia vRS,/// Cruise Control, De-Bump striped, Seat Leon Front Splitter, Seat Sport Front Strut Brace, PD160 Air Intake and Green Cotton Air Filter, Cage mod, Uprated indicator Bulbs and Headlight Bulbs, LED sidelights, Ipod Interface, Jabba Sport ARB, Turbo back, and SportCat Milltek Exhaust, JABBA Sport Custom Remap! 312mm Brakes, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs Privacy tints all round, and Anthracite Octy 17" Spiders and sticky Toyo Proxes T1R rubber! To come Leather retrim, Forge FMIC!

23-08-2007, 23:09	#8
zacherynuk Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Ooooh 130 I think... Will have to check! 160 and I will be gutted

23-08-2007, 23:17	#9
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,540 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 26 Thanked 115 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs 160 is the Cupra FR is 130 Pre-03 Sport is 130 03 on Sport is 110 I think __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

23-08-2007, 23:49	#10
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Members Car: Vauxhall Astra VXR Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs The vRS is more desirable I think. You see a Sport TDI on the road and think oh... just another Seat. The vRS is more interesting to look at, therefore imo better

24-08-2007, 00:34	#11
kurtz15 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 27 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs in the past few months max power did an article putting these 2 cars against eachother, was a good read, the skoda fabia vrs won, but only slightly... search back issues if you want to read.

24-08-2007, 00:36	#12
kurtz15 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 27 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs 'DONT BE FOOLED BY THE BADGE. Thats the moral of the story where diesal hot hatches are concerned, as the Skoda Fabia vRS has just nicked victory from the Seat Ibiza TDi FR. The contest was close, but that was to be expected with two cars that share the same engine and platform, but it was the little things that made the difference. Although the Ibiza may have the styling edge, there is still a distinct air of cool around the Skoda's squared off panelling. The performance of the two was near identical, but it was the more complete feel, steering and ride of the Skoda that just edged it over the more raw, sporty Ibiza. With both cars being so fast, useable, fun and economical, the real question is not which of these is best, but whether you really need a petrol to have a great hot hatch' They also liked the vRS for modifying potential; 'Anonymity - The subtle styling lends itself well to the Euro Style customisation, and its unassuming stance means it is a great sleeper. Just see the faces of other hot hatch owners when you leave them choking on Skoda rubber!'

24-08-2007, 07:52	#14
Fezboy Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Watford Posts: 2,465 Members Car: Mondeo 2.2TDCI Thanks: 21 Thanked 122 Times in 116 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs The most annoying things about the Seat were: Headlights misting Windscreen misting Dash/door rattles Hard ride 1,000,000,000,000,000 other people had them! __________________ Octavia VRs *SOLD* The futures somkey! The futures diesel

24-08-2007, 08:34	#16
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Nope, there is a 100PD which had a five speed gearbox but thats not a Sport The 110 bhp non PD was only available in the MK3 Sport. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-08-2007, 11:07	#17
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,540 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 26 Thanked 115 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs SEAT Ibiza - 1.9TDi Sport (100ps) 3d - Technical Data - Parker's __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Boost + Volt Gauge, Window Tints

24-08-2007, 11:10	#18
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs News to me, dont ever remember us selling one, I think thats incorrect. I think the 100PD was S and SE spec, much like the 100PD Fabia and vRS. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-08-2007, 11:14	#19
tdirob Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wrexham Posts: 1,193 Members Car: Golf GT TDi Thanks: 25 Thanked 34 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs There are loads of 110bhp Diesel Sports kicking about on Autotrader at the minute. __________________ Golf GT TDI - Standard (at the minute)

24-08-2007, 11:17	#20
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Links? They only fitted the PD engine (bar the SDi) to the Mk4 Ibiza (the same as the Fabia). Mind you we had a link a while back and the garage selling the Ibiza admitted they didnt know a thing about it. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-08-2007, 11:23	#21
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Just checked the seat uk website and they list all the Ibizas made. The 110bhp Ibiza Sport... SEAT IBIZA 1.9 TDI 110 Sport 3-Door HATCHBACK a MK3. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-08-2007, 11:32	#22
Big Mikey Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 267 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS 1.9 TDi 130bhp Thanks: 14 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs Off topic just slightly, but does anyone remember the Top Gear where the vRS beat the Mini Cooper S? __________________

24-08-2007, 11:42	#23
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs And the million threads on here that followed? Yeah I think I remember it..lol __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

24-08-2007, 12:37	#25
TomH Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 273 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ibiza TDI sport vs VRs The Ibiza TDI sport looks the same as any other ibiza with alloys - so more stealthy but also not actually as sporty in appearance. When I test drove one I felt the hard ride that is the first thing that everyone says about them! It did feel a little quicker though (and might be a bit lighter I suppose) I think the 100bhp is now a sport and the 130s are badged FR

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