Just changed brake pads and...

HellFire · 15-06-2005, 19:19

My left front brake (passenger side) last night started to make a hideous grinding noise, anyway as JBS suspected my brake pads had pretty much had it, anyway I struggled home.

This morning I went to my local garage and got some new pads fitted and im guessing they were aftermarket ones (unsure what brand), i'm guessing they are aftermarket anyway as I can't see how he managed to get OEM pads in on the same day that I brought my car in.

Anyway, brake pads changed and the feel in the brake pedal is almost none existant and to slow the car down even from a moderate speed I seem to have to really press the pedal in. How long do pads normally take to wear in and is this normal?

My final question is (sorry this is going to sound really spackerish

), could normal Fabia pads (or their equivalent) of been fitted instead of the vRS ones, or do only vRS specific type of pads fit?

Thanks

Lummox · 15-06-2005, 19:21

Pads will take around 200-300 miles to bed in fully on a used brake disc

bengie · 15-06-2005, 19:23

for starters skoda don't make the pads. they will be the same pads fitted to a few different cars so a good chance of getting them very quickly as they would be made by a big company.

the brakes on't feel the same straightaway as they need to bed in for a hundred miles or so, so no heavy braking unless needed

ScoobyChris · 15-06-2005, 20:02

You'll need to bed them in and it can take up to 500 miles! Have a read of this link

Chris

Mil · 15-06-2005, 20:31

Dude...

I just recently got my pads changed after about 70,000kms. My first brake pad change. They changed it...regardless of the fact it needs to be bed in for a while, they were bloody fantastic and responsive. So there must be something wrong, because new brake pads are thick, and therefore should braking should result in quick response.

MagicBoy · 15-06-2005, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

Dude...

I just recently got my pads changed after about 70,000kms. My first brake pad change. They changed it...regardless of the fact it needs to be bed in for a while, they were bloody fantastic and responsive. So there must be something wrong, because new brake pads are thick, and therefore should braking should result in quick response.

Maybe you get a different pad compound over there?

New front pads are rather scary to the uninitiated - it's like having no brakes for the first 60 odd miles with increased pedal pressures. The bite gets gradually better until they're back to "normal" after a couple of hundred miles.

***ncarring*** · 15-06-2005, 22:17

If the discs are worn they will have a pattern of grooves on them which the pad takes a while to wear down to match. Until that happens, contact between pad and disc is only on the high points between the grooves. Also the pads will have a shiny surface on them that takes a little while to wear off. They just need to be bedded in gradually.

Lummox · 15-06-2005, 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

because new brake pads are thick, and therefore should braking should result in quick response.

Why would pad thickness make a difference to brake response?

***ncarring*** · 15-06-2005, 22:24

Hmmm just guessing maybe the calipers squeeze harder because the pads are thicker and don't have to travel so far to meet the disc ... also of course the boiling point of the fluid will be higher because of the heat absorption qualities of the extra friction material, and there will be less gassing because of the sealed surface of the brand new pads, and, and, and ......

All complete piffle but I tried

Lummox · 15-06-2005, 22:28

The distance from the pad to the disc never alters regardless of the pad width, the piston just moves out and takes up the space.

AndyG_1979 · 15-06-2005, 22:32

Cant really comment as Ive alway felt the vRS brakes to be kinda crap, if I keep it for another 6 months then ill upgrade the brakes for sure.

Jon TDI · 15-06-2005, 22:34

As far a I know, the vRS brakes are unique to the Fabia range, so they must be the pukka pads!

While we're on the topic, has anybody fitted any type of fast road pad to the std 288mm brakes?

***ncarring*** · 15-06-2005, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

The distance from the pad to the disc never alters regardless of the pad width, the piston just moves out and takes up the space.

<clouseau mode> I kneau that, I kneau that!</clouseau>

I did say it was all piffle

**TaviaRS** · 15-06-2005, 22:36

Far canal, there ain't arf some excrement posted on here

New pads need to be bedded in, end of. The bedding in procedure and the time taken to bed in varies with different types of pads.

Thickness of the pads?

Far king nonsense!

**TaviaRS** · 15-06-2005, 22:36

Jon, yes.

HTH

Jon TDI · 15-06-2005, 22:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

Jon, yes.

HTH

Yes to what?

**TaviaRS** · 15-06-2005, 22:39

Urm probably

Quote:

Originally Posted by You

has anybody fitted any type of fast road pad to the std 288mm brakes

Jon TDI · 15-06-2005, 22:40

C'mon, spill the beans!

***ncarring*** · 15-06-2005, 22:41

DS2500s - I had them on my old Octy, too. In fact they're the same pads for either the 288 or the 312, same part number.

Jon TDI · 15-06-2005, 22:42

Oh, hang on! Octy calipers are different to Furbys

***ncarring*** · 15-06-2005, 23:01

Ah - disc sizes are a coincidence then. I assumed too much, knowing some people had swapped to 312 systems off Octavias. Sorry

HellFire · 15-06-2005, 23:05

Thanks for all the replies guys, I have been out for a Briskodaly drive in it tonight, very light/light then medium braking over a period of approximately 50 miles.

It seems much better already, cant wait till I can start stopping properly soon

flatfourburble · 18-07-2005, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFire

Thanks for all the replies guys, I have been out for a Briskodaly drive in it tonight, very light/light then medium braking over a period of approximately 50 miles.

It seems much better already, cant wait till I can start stopping properly soon

Hellfire,

How many miles did your pads last for? Just wondering because when mine are gettin to the end of their life I'll be upgrading to 312mm jobbies. So I'd like to know how much I "may" have left.

Anyone else with a fabia vRS that has changed the pads due to being worn out?

SkodiRS · 18-07-2005, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

Far canal, there ain't arf some excrement posted on here

New pads need to be bedded in, end of. The bedding in procedure and the time taken to bed in varies with different types of pads.

Thickness of the pads?

Far king nonsense!

Obi-wan is telling the truth..what a load of bolleaux.

Will take a couple of hundred mile to bed the pads in...it's a fact.

SteVRs · 18-07-2005, 12:19

Just for info, releasing brakes does not remove the pad from the disk, it is the rotation of the disk that does that - this is why disks are hot after driving, even if you do not use the brakes. So as far as thicker pads moving less far etc this is untrue, as they are almost always touching the disk slightly.

15-06-2005, 19:19	#1
HellFire Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 3,174 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Just changed brake pads and... My left front brake (passenger side) last night started to make a hideous grinding noise, anyway as JBS suspected my brake pads had pretty much had it, anyway I struggled home. This morning I went to my local garage and got some new pads fitted and im guessing they were aftermarket ones (unsure what brand), i'm guessing they are aftermarket anyway as I can't see how he managed to get OEM pads in on the same day that I brought my car in. Anyway, brake pads changed and the feel in the brake pedal is almost none existant and to slow the car down even from a moderate speed I seem to have to really press the pedal in. How long do pads normally take to wear in and is this normal? My final question is (sorry this is going to sound really spackerish ), could normal Fabia pads (or their equivalent) of been fitted instead of the vRS ones, or do only vRS specific type of pads fit? Thanks __________________ Metro Blue '06' 5 Door Astra 1.8 SRi

15-06-2005, 19:21	#2
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Pads will take around 200-300 miles to bed in fully on a used brake disc __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

15-06-2005, 19:23	#3
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,249 Members Car: 4x4 turbo estate Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	for starters skoda don't make the pads. they will be the same pads fitted to a few different cars so a good chance of getting them very quickly as they would be made by a big company. the brakes on't feel the same straightaway as they need to bed in for a hundred miles or so, so no heavy braking unless needed __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

15-06-2005, 20:02	#4
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,193 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 15 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	You'll need to bed them in and it can take up to 500 miles! Have a read of this link Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

15-06-2005, 20:31	#5
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Members Car: Weichers strut, K&N panel filter, GT bodykit, GT tailpipe, Falken tyres Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Dude... I just recently got my pads changed after about 70,000kms. My first brake pad change. They changed it...regardless of the fact it needs to be bed in for a while, they were bloody fantastic and responsive. So there must be something wrong, because new brake pads are thick, and therefore should braking should result in quick response. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

15-06-2005, 22:17	#7
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,952 Members Car: 1983 Porsche 928S / 1972 MGB GT Thanks: 16 Thanked 94 Times in 77 Posts	If the discs are worn they will have a pattern of grooves on them which the pad takes a while to wear down to match. Until that happens, contact between pad and disc is only on the high points between the grooves. Also the pads will have a shiny surface on them that takes a little while to wear off. They just need to be bedded in gradually. __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

15-06-2005, 22:24	#9
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,952 Members Car: 1983 Porsche 928S / 1972 MGB GT Thanks: 16 Thanked 94 Times in 77 Posts	Hmmm just guessing maybe the calipers squeeze harder because the pads are thicker and don't have to travel so far to meet the disc ... also of course the boiling point of the fluid will be higher because of the heat absorption qualities of the extra friction material, and there will be less gassing because of the sealed surface of the brand new pads, and, and, and ...... All complete piffle but I tried __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

15-06-2005, 22:28	#10
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,430 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	The distance from the pad to the disc never alters regardless of the pad width, the piston just moves out and takes up the space. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

15-06-2005, 22:32	#11
AndyG_1979 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wigmore, Kent Posts: 278 Members Car: Black Fabia vRS Thanks: 14 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Cant really comment as Ive alway felt the vRS brakes to be kinda crap, if I keep it for another 6 months then ill upgrade the brakes for sure. __________________ Black Magic Fabia vRS XBox Live: AndyG1979 Support Briskoda by joining FREEDOM!!!! click the image =====>

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Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,226 Members Car: SEAT Leon TDI Sport Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts	As far a I know, the vRS brakes are unique to the Fabia range, so they must be the pukka pads! While we're on the topic, has anybody fitted any type of fast road pad to the std 288mm brakes? __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille. Also driving around in a Mini ONE that thinks it's a Cooper! John Cooper Works airbox, Superchips Bluefin remap, Sprint Booster, 17" Cooper S Spokes

15-06-2005, 22:36	#14
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Far canal, there ain't arf some excrement posted on here New pads need to be bedded in, end of. The bedding in procedure and the time taken to bed in varies with different types of pads. Thickness of the pads? Far king nonsense! __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

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TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Jon, yes. HTH __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

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Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,226 Members Car: SEAT Leon TDI Sport Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts	C'mon, spill the beans! __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille. Also driving around in a Mini ONE that thinks it's a Cooper! John Cooper Works airbox, Superchips Bluefin remap, Sprint Booster, 17" Cooper S Spokes

15-06-2005, 22:41	#19
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,952 Members Car: 1983 Porsche 928S / 1972 MGB GT Thanks: 16 Thanked 94 Times in 77 Posts	DS2500s - I had them on my old Octy, too. In fact they're the same pads for either the 288 or the 312, same part number. __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

15-06-2005, 22:42	#20
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,226 Members Car: SEAT Leon TDI Sport Thanks: 34 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts	Oh, hang on! Octy calipers are different to Furbys __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille. Also driving around in a Mini ONE that thinks it's a Cooper! John Cooper Works airbox, Superchips Bluefin remap, Sprint Booster, 17" Cooper S Spokes

15-06-2005, 23:01	#21
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,952 Members Car: 1983 Porsche 928S / 1972 MGB GT Thanks: 16 Thanked 94 Times in 77 Posts	Ah - disc sizes are a coincidence then. I assumed too much, knowing some people had swapped to 312 systems off Octavias. Sorry __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

15-06-2005, 23:05	#22
HellFire Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 3,174 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for all the replies guys, I have been out for a Briskodaly drive in it tonight, very light/light then medium braking over a period of approximately 50 miles. It seems much better already, cant wait till I can start stopping properly soon __________________ Metro Blue '06' 5 Door Astra 1.8 SRi

18-07-2005, 12:19	#25
SteVRs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 3,065 Members Car: Smart Roadster Coupe Brabus Thanks: 4 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Just for info, releasing brakes does not remove the pad from the disk, it is the rotation of the disk that does that - this is why disks are hot after driving, even if you do not use the brakes. So as far as thicker pads moving less far etc this is untrue, as they are almost always touching the disk slightly. __________________ Engined bike. Engined car. Neither a Skoda - been there, done that

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