Just a stone....?

merlin5965 · 13-05-2007, 01:53

Just saying Hi as a first time poster and in need a little advise if possible please.

Driving home yesterday my Fabia developed a horrible metallic scrapping noise from what seemed to be the front passenger side wheel. Best I can describe it is as if a shovel was being dragged along concrete only ten times as loud. Came on after the car had been moving for around 5 minutes and after I’d turned left off a main road at a junction.

Happened at all speeds up to 50 mph (not brave enough to go faster with that noise)
;-) but did not seem to effect braking, in fact all felt normal other than the racket.

Had a poke around underneath and all seemed well, so took it to the local car park and after 10 minutes or so driving in circles on full lock in both directions and some heavy braking and emergency stops the problem seems to have disappeared.

Could a stone trapped between the calliper and disk have cause this?

Car is a 03 Fabia 13,000 miles serviced April 07 (original pads)

Thanks
Merlin

vRSLen · 13-05-2007, 02:29

Welcome

Sounds like it could have been a stone trapped. I would take the wheel off and
have a good look. Also examine the wheel for score marks.

vrs jamez27 · 13-05-2007, 09:14

Hello and welcome, hope you find Briskoda helpful.

I agree with vRSLen, still take the wheel off and have a look. I had a similar problem on my 306 once, and I still couldnt see anything so i got the pressure washer out and gave the affect area a spray (not too close obv) this must have dislodged whatever was making the noise as i had no further problems. So you could try this method if the noise returns. Hopefully it will have been cured by your erratic car park driving

parsko · 13-05-2007, 09:23

We get called to his all the time, no need to remove the wheel, just turn wheels on full lock and then gently pull the disk backing plate away from the disk at the bottom and a little road chiping usually falls out.
This is much better than driving around trying to dislodge it.
Never yet seen any disk damage with this fault.

vrs jamez27 · 13-05-2007, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAArsko

We get called to his all the time, no need to remove the wheel, just turn wheels on full lock and then gently pull the disk backing plate away from the disk at the bottom and a little road chiping usually falls out.
This is much better than driving around trying to dislodge it.
Never yet seen any disk damage with this fault.

Cool, have to remember this if it ever happens again.

sharkrider · 13-05-2007, 16:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAArsko

We get called to his all the time, no need to remove the wheel, just turn wheels on full lock and then gently pull the disk backing plate away from the disk at the bottom and a little road chiping usually falls out.
This is much better than driving around trying to dislodge it.
Never yet seen any disk damage with this fault.

there was a brisky member with a vRS, who's wheel came apart, (the actual alloy split!) and skoda claimed it was due to a stone being caught, causing wear, weakness, and then the break!

merlin5965 · 13-05-2007, 16:58

Many thanks for the replies and advise

Reverse light switch seems to have packed up now so i'll drive by the stealers and ask them to have a look at the same time.

vRSLen · 13-05-2007, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkrider

there was a brisky member with a vRS, who's wheel came apart, (the actual alloy split!) and skoda claimed it was due to a stone being caught, causing wear, weakness, and then the break!

Quite

parsko · 14-05-2007, 08:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkrider

there was a brisky member with a vRS, who's wheel came apart, (the actual alloy split!) and skoda claimed it was due to a stone being caught, causing wear, weakness, and then the break!

The fault as described exactly in the original post is a classic case of a chipping caught between disk and backplate and driving about as the original poster said had dislodged it.
It obviously goes without saying that if after checking between disk and backplate and moving the car a few metres the noise is still present it warrants further investigation.
This is not to be confused with grinding noise when applying the brakes normally pads worn out or disk corrosion.
Would love to have seen the evidence of a stone causing a wheel to split, imagine the noise and the ammount of time being driven before the wheel failed!
Although I am quite often amazed at what small faults can cause big failures.
Best be safe eh?

fabmark · 15-05-2007, 19:24

My mum has just had a similar problem in her 56 golf, it stuck between the wheel an dthe calliper somehow and has grooved the insidde of the alloy wheel.

sharkrider · 15-05-2007, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAArsko

The fault as described exactly in the original post is a classic case of a chipping caught between disk and backplate and driving about as the original poster said had dislodged it.
It obviously goes without saying that if after checking between disk and backplate and moving the car a few metres the noise is still present it warrants further investigation.
This is not to be confused with grinding noise when applying the brakes normally pads worn out or disk corrosion.
Would love to have seen the evidence of a stone causing a wheel to split, imagine the noise and the ammount of time being driven before the wheel failed!
Although I am quite often amazed at what small faults can cause big failures.
Best be safe eh?

he showed us pictures if his wheel.... scared the hell out of me... I never ignored such a noise since! lol...

13-05-2007, 01:53	#1
merlin5965 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just a stone....? Just saying Hi as a first time poster and in need a little advise if possible please. Driving home yesterday my Fabia developed a horrible metallic scrapping noise from what seemed to be the front passenger side wheel. Best I can describe it is as if a shovel was being dragged along concrete only ten times as loud. Came on after the car had been moving for around 5 minutes and after I’d turned left off a main road at a junction. Happened at all speeds up to 50 mph (not brave enough to go faster with that noise) ;-) but did not seem to effect braking, in fact all felt normal other than the racket. Had a poke around underneath and all seemed well, so took it to the local car park and after 10 minutes or so driving in circles on full lock in both directions and some heavy braking and emergency stops the problem seems to have disappeared. Could a stone trapped between the calliper and disk have cause this? Car is a 03 Fabia 13,000 miles serviced April 07 (original pads) Thanks Merlin

13-05-2007, 02:29	#2
vRSLen King Rat Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 5,380 Members Car: MK11 Octavia vRS Thanks: 169 Thanked 196 Times in 141 Posts	Re: Just a stone....? Welcome Sounds like it could have been a stone trapped. I would take the wheel off and have a good look. Also examine the wheel for score marks. __________________ Current car: Black MKII Octavia vRS Combi Previous: Black MKI Octavia vRS Combi Black Fabia Elegance 100 BHP

13-05-2007, 09:14	#3
vrs jamez27 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northampton (home) or Cheltenham (Uni) Posts: 412 Members Car: Octy vRS diesal estate and Civic Type R Thanks: 17 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Just a stone....? Hello and welcome, hope you find Briskoda helpful. I agree with vRSLen, still take the wheel off and have a look. I had a similar problem on my 306 once, and I still couldnt see anything so i got the pressure washer out and gave the affect area a spray (not too close obv) this must have dislodged whatever was making the noise as i had no further problems. So you could try this method if the noise returns. Hopefully it will have been cured by your erratic car park driving __________________ Furby's gone ... but never forgotten! Been replaced with Terri the Premier Ed Civic Type R. Now using new Mums Octy vRS diesal estate ... having trouble convincing her to take to Jabba! Help needed. I still wave at Furby vRS owners in my Type R and I sure they think Im retarded.

13-05-2007, 09:23	#4
parsko Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 544 Members Car: ............... Thanks: 15 Thanked 27 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Just a stone....? We get called to his all the time, no need to remove the wheel, just turn wheels on full lock and then gently pull the disk backing plate away from the disk at the bottom and a little road chiping usually falls out. This is much better than driving around trying to dislodge it. Never yet seen any disk damage with this fault.

13-05-2007, 16:58	#7
merlin5965 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Just a stone....? Many thanks for the replies and advise Reverse light switch seems to have packed up now so i'll drive by the stealers and ask them to have a look at the same time.

15-05-2007, 19:24	#10
fabmark Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Burton on Trent Posts: 146 Members Car: Fabia VRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Just a stone....? My mum has just had a similar problem in her 56 golf, it stuck between the wheel an dthe calliper somehow and has grooved the insidde of the alloy wheel. __________________ Silver vRS, mudflaps and vw ipod kit, otherwise bog standard (for now)

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