K&N for a Fabia VRS 2005

Jules59 · 22-10-2005, 01:11

Hi
Does anyone know if K&N do a filter for a 2005 Fabia VRS ? If so do you know the part numbr.
Jules

SkodaLover · 22-10-2005, 01:34

If it's a filter your after, then you want a Green Cotton Panel Filter NOT a K&N, as the general concensus in the community is that the oil used on the K&N can kill your MAF Sensor!

Green Filters crop up all the time on ebay, keep a look out! Filter's are best used in conjunction with the cupra intake mod! Have a search around on the site, there's plenty of info on here!

ScoobyChris · 22-10-2005, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodaLover

If it's a filter your after, then you want a Green Cotton Panel Filter NOT a K&N, as the general concensus in the community is that the oil used on the K&N can kill you MAF Sensor!

The consensus is it can due to the K&N being slightly more oily compared to the Green. However, there is nothing to back that up and several members have been running K&N without issue. In fact, it is possible to damage the MAF when you re-oil the Green filter, so neither is 100% safe.

To answer the original question, yes they do - P/N is 33-2830

Chris

Mil · 22-10-2005, 10:03

Thank you Chris. You're too cool.

K&N rules.

SkodaLover · 22-10-2005, 15:12

K&N’s are made from several layers of cotton gauze squished together with metal gause, a very cheap manufacturing process. Green Filters are woven which makes a thinner and much stronger filter and are much less likely to break down.

The makeup of the K&N means it wears quickly and allows oil to be drawn though the MAF, ending up eventually, killing it! And the only reason why K&N can offer a great 1,000,000 mile warranty, is because they are mass produced, for very little money (you only have to look at the amount of rubber overspill is on a K&N to see the lack of quality), can be replaced easily, and they know that few people are actually going to brother to take them up on it!

When you buy a K&N your paying for the name and heritage, not the product!

Do a search on MAF Sensors on here, and see how many times the word “K&N” comes up, it’s amusing

and that’s despite a marjority of people running green filters!!

ScoobyChris · 22-10-2005, 15:30

ROFL! You can't make this stuff up.

I've run K&N's in 2 of my previous cars for 80k miles and never had any problems with MAFs. I've also run Green for 30k miles on previous cars.

Of course, if you over-oil the element then it's going to lead to MAF failure but the K&N filters do not wear quickly and are not poorly made - next you'll be telling me your Green is a perfect fit in the Fabia air box

The bottom line is if you clean and re-oil a cotton panel filter properly, you are very unlikely to have any MAF problems...........

Chris

Mil · 22-10-2005, 15:32

What he said ^

flatfourburble · 22-10-2005, 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

next you'll be telling me your Green is a perfect fit in the Fabia air box

You mean it doesn't?

If I was you do a search have a good read up and go for which one you want. I only went with the green cotton filter because it was cheaper thanks to briskie discount.

You "could" break from the fold and have a K&N.

I ran a K&N induction kit on my saxo for 12k/1year and it never killed the MAF. Though the saxo isn't a great example as it always went wrong

JBS Auto Design · 22-10-2005, 15:40

If there is the possibility of having a problem with the MAF because of the filter is it worth risking it?
May have nothing to do with the oil.
But hey we sell Green Cotton.
If you want to know what price PM me and I will get a price for you delivered to your door.
We have them in stock waiting to go.
Sarah

SkodaLover · 22-10-2005, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

What he said ^

Bloody hell, your ganging up on me!

I'm just speaking from my expierence and it's 3-0 to K&N so far...

walkie · 22-10-2005, 15:46

K&N also do an induction kit for the Fab vRS if thats your thing

Whelan_vrs · 22-10-2005, 15:53

I fitted this today! Metal gauze filter, its made the note of my car sound deeper and i can hear what can only be described as the Rally 'chatter' noise u here when a rally car change's gear!

While i was doing this i noticed that a holding bracket had been snapped:

has anyone else had this problem?.

flatfourburble · 22-10-2005, 16:07

What have you done for cold air feed?

Whelan_vrs · 22-10-2005, 16:16

Its still the standard one for now, its just not pictured

flatfourburble · 22-10-2005, 16:23

oh right, you will have to let us know how you get on with it. Does it smoke more or less? Revs better etc.

Whelan_vrs · 22-10-2005, 16:29

I have only drove it for about 5min's since i fitted it but i havent noticed anymore smoke than usual.

as for the revs it does feel smooth but i have one of these fitted:

so my car revs different than the standard!

the rev's got to about 2800 and then the turbo kicked in hard till 4000

Jules59 · 22-10-2005, 20:01

Thanks for all the info and opinions. Obviously there are pros and cons to both types, so I'll have to go and think about it. I have used K&Ns on all my previous Discoveries and also on my mk2 Fiesta XR2 (Janspeed exhaust etc)- now that takes me back >20 years, so I kinda have a fondness for K&Ns. Jeez I am a sad old git- I've fallen in love with an air filter....

Mil · 22-10-2005, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodaLover

Bloody hell, your ganging up on me!

I'm just speaking from my expierence and it's 3-0 to K&N so far...

Na ah, we're ahead of you. More K&N fans than u think.

And i ain't ganging up on you man...im just playing...but im serious too

Mil · 22-10-2005, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules59

I kinda have a fondness for K&Ns. Jeez I am a sad old git- I've fallen in love with an air filter....

Whelan_vrs · 23-10-2005, 14:09

I have added a video of my new induction kit doing its job. http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/De...D%3D1867033397

22-10-2005, 01:11	#1
Jules59 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 319 Thanks: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	K&N for a Fabia VRS 2005 Hi Does anyone know if K&N do a filter for a 2005 Fabia VRS ? If so do you know the part numbr. Jules

22-10-2005, 01:34	#2
SkodaLover Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Essex & Norfolk Posts: 1,363 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	If it's a filter your after, then you want a Green Cotton Panel Filter NOT a K&N, as the general concensus in the community is that the oil used on the K&N can kill your MAF Sensor! Green Filters crop up all the time on ebay, keep a look out! Filter's are best used in conjunction with the cupra intake mod! Have a search around on the site, there's plenty of info on here! Last edited by SkodaLover; 22-10-2005 at 15:23.

22-10-2005, 10:03	#4
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Thank you Chris. You're too cool. K&N rules. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

22-10-2005, 15:12	#5
SkodaLover Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Essex & Norfolk Posts: 1,363 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 3 Posts	K&N, paying for the name, tut tut... K&N’s are made from several layers of cotton gauze squished together with metal gause, a very cheap manufacturing process. Green Filters are woven which makes a thinner and much stronger filter and are much less likely to break down. The makeup of the K&N means it wears quickly and allows oil to be drawn though the MAF, ending up eventually, killing it! And the only reason why K&N can offer a great 1,000,000 mile warranty, is because they are mass produced, for very little money (you only have to look at the amount of rubber overspill is on a K&N to see the lack of quality), can be replaced easily, and they know that few people are actually going to brother to take them up on it! When you buy a K&N your paying for the name and heritage, not the product! Do a search on MAF Sensors on here, and see how many times the word “K&N” comes up, it’s amusing and that’s despite a marjority of people running green filters!! Last edited by SkodaLover; 22-10-2005 at 15:15.

22-10-2005, 15:30	#6
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,117 Thanks: 15 Thanked 326 Times in 284 Posts	ROFL! You can't make this stuff up. I've run K&N's in 2 of my previous cars for 80k miles and never had any problems with MAFs. I've also run Green for 30k miles on previous cars. Of course, if you over-oil the element then it's going to lead to MAF failure but the K&N filters do not wear quickly and are not poorly made - next you'll be telling me your Green is a perfect fit in the Fabia air box The bottom line is if you clean and re-oil a cotton panel filter properly, you are very unlikely to have any MAF problems........... Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

22-10-2005, 15:32	#7
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	What he said ^ __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

22-10-2005, 15:40	#9
JBS Auto Design Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central UK Posts: 913 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If there is the possibility of having a problem with the MAF because of the filter is it worth risking it? May have nothing to do with the oil. But hey we sell Green Cotton. If you want to know what price PM me and I will get a price for you delivered to your door. We have them in stock waiting to go. Sarah

22-10-2005, 15:46	#11
walkie ............... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Monday: MK Tuesday: MK Wednesday: MK Thursday: MK Friday: MK/Home Saturday: Home Sunday: In bed ;o) Posts: 6,606 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	K&N also do an induction kit for the Fab vRS if thats your thing __________________ Having a little break, concentrate on the more important things in life, swmbo and my training. See you soon folks, take care - James

22-10-2005, 15:53	#12
Whelan_vrs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wirral merseyside Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I fitted this today! Metal gauze filter, its made the note of my car sound deeper and i can hear what can only be described as the Rally 'chatter' noise u here when a rally car change's gear! While i was doing this i noticed that a holding bracket had been snapped: has anyone else had this problem?.

22-10-2005, 16:07	#13
flatfourburble "Bones" Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heathrow/Crewe Posts: 5,449 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What have you done for cold air feed? __________________ Oh to have the internet back..................oh have I missed it

22-10-2005, 16:16	#14
Whelan_vrs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wirral merseyside Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Its still the standard one for now, its just not pictured Last edited by Whelan_vrs; 22-10-2005 at 16:17.

22-10-2005, 16:23	#15
flatfourburble "Bones" Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heathrow/Crewe Posts: 5,449 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oh right, you will have to let us know how you get on with it. Does it smoke more or less? Revs better etc. __________________ Oh to have the internet back..................oh have I missed it

22-10-2005, 16:29	#16
Whelan_vrs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wirral merseyside Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have only drove it for about 5min's since i fitted it but i havent noticed anymore smoke than usual. as for the revs it does feel smooth but i have one of these fitted: so my car revs different than the standard! the rev's got to about 2800 and then the turbo kicked in hard till 4000

22-10-2005, 20:01	#17
Jules59 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 319 Thanks: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	Thanks for all the info and opinions. Obviously there are pros and cons to both types, so I'll have to go and think about it. I have used K&Ns on all my previous Discoveries and also on my mk2 Fiesta XR2 (Janspeed exhaust etc)- now that takes me back >20 years, so I kinda have a fondness for K&Ns. Jeez I am a sad old git- I've fallen in love with an air filter....

23-10-2005, 14:09	#20
Whelan_vrs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wirral merseyside Posts: 140 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have added a video of my new induction kit doing its job. http://www.streamload.com/Deliver/De...D%3D1867033397

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