Making my intake bigger...

Duggie · 18-04-2008, 11:28

Ok, yet another "power hungry" thread with regard to my frankly slow 1.4 MPi. As some of you know, i have gone against the views of most on the remap front and it's being taken to Jabba on the 26th April. I have been told that to get the best from the 'map a free flow air filter with a bigger intake could help. I already have the free flow filter, care of K&N.I'm not entirely sure buy I think the airbox on a 1.4 MPi is the same as that on a VRS (a kind of triangular shape?). Is it possible to get a bigger intake to allow more air into the engine? I don't really want to have to fiddle around with hoses or cheap intake kits, just a different PD intake? Would that be available?

Cheers guys... no mention of the girlfriend just yet...

Duggie.

Babs · 18-04-2008, 11:30

Throttle bodies is what you need!

Duggie · 18-04-2008, 11:31

Eh? In regard to the girlfiend or the car? I'm not very mechanically minded!

vRS Dovit · 18-04-2008, 12:52

Oh Duggie Duggie Duggie lol Throttle bodies the bit where all the air goes into. It has a wee flap or "butterfly" that opens n closes when the throttle is used. Gettin a bigger one lets more air in and give you "more power"
Not sure about the intake pipe on the 1.4 but if u can, try running a PD130 or the PD 160 IF they fit.

HTH

Duggie · 18-04-2008, 13:23

Ok, where can i get these throttle bodies? And where could I get them fitted?
Also, as for an uprated intake, where can i get one of those? I'm clost to a Vw dealer, Skoda dealer and a Seat dealer.

Many thanks,
Duggie.

jasc1988 · 18-04-2008, 13:58

Would bother with a remap till you did everything, i.e throttle bodies, port polished, cammed, turbo'd / supercharged

vRS Dovit · 18-04-2008, 18:01

not sure where u'd get throttle bodies. Contact jabba, awesome etc n see what they can do. The PD intakes can be bought from SEAT but will cost u a bit, think there's some PD160's in the sale section. Failing that mate, pm me n u can try my standard PD130. Dont know if you'll see any improvement.......

jasc1988 · 18-04-2008, 19:16

Get a 1.8 t stuck in, rather as farting on with a 1.4

Dmac1969 · 18-04-2008, 19:43

I'd be thinking about just doing the map to smooth power delivery out , I cant see any gains being availible on the 1.4 8V engine without having it to bits and fitting cams , throttle bodies etc , and even then you probably wont get much more than 20 bhp (if that). Its always much cheaper just trading the car in for the most powerful one in the range , than trying to tune a base car for power. Unless you can stretch to an engine swap , that is!

Duggie · 18-04-2008, 21:56

Oh how i'd love a 1.8T, clearly not everyone has been paying attention to otrher posts on my crazy power wanting threads... an engine swap could be on the cards in the distant future....

-Duggie.

Robshaw · 18-04-2008, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duggie

Oh how i'd love a 1.8T, clearly not everyone has been paying attention to otrher posts on my crazy power wanting threads... an engine swap could be on the cards in the distant future....

-Duggie.

Duggie.

I'm not sure about the PD130 However you can have mine if needs be - Just send me a PM and it's yours...

Rob

vRS Dovit · 18-04-2008, 23:51

I've PM'd you mate
I'll do what i've said in the PM n get back to you asap.

Duggie · 19-04-2008, 00:15

Thanks for the PMs and the very generous offers guys, Briskoda really is an awesome resource for all us Skoda owners out there!
Thanks again.

cheezemonkhai · 19-04-2008, 00:32

Duggie, I'm not going to tell you not to do this, although as you know I fall into the I wouldn't group.

What I will say is have a long hard think about what you really want to do before you spend the money. If you are going to do a 1.8t save the money and put it towards the conversion.

If you are not I suggest talking to somebody like teflontom, who has done wonders with an old felly engine and will has a lot of knowledge in the area of tuning up N/A engines.

Robshaw · 21-04-2008, 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

Duggie, I'm not going to tell you not to do this, although as you know I fall into the I wouldn't group.

What I will say is have a long hard think about what you really want to do before you spend the money. If you are going to do a 1.8t save the money and put it towards the conversion.

If you are not I suggest talking to somebody like teflontom, who has done wonders with an old felly engine and will has a lot of knowledge in the area of tuning up N/A engines.

That is some good advice -

- Duggie I have sent the PD130 today. 1st class should be with you tomorrow or Weds.

Many thanks,
Rob

vRS Dovit · 21-04-2008, 15:50

No need for mine then Duggie.....................lol

jasc1988 · 21-04-2008, 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duggie

Oh how i'd love a 1.8T, clearly not everyone has been paying attention to otrher posts on my crazy power wanting threads... an engine swap could be on the cards in the distant future....

-Duggie.

Why would i read every topic anyway?

Only suggesting mate

Duggie · 21-04-2008, 19:09

Quote:

Why would i read every topic anyway?

Don't worry about it mate, I'm just saying that i've been posting far too much about improving a 1.4 in terms of power!

L-Y-K · 21-04-2008, 19:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasc1988

Get a 1.8 t stuck in, rather as farting on with a 1.4

yeah that would be the best bet surely

oops.

jumped a few posts

my bad!

out of question whats the difference in tunability between the 16v and the mpi?

Lummox · 21-04-2008, 21:14

Lots, the 16v is a crossflow engine, plus better breathing due to multi valve design.

Dont get me wrong stuff can be done to the 8v OHV engine, just to get yourself even to the same power as the std 100bhp 16v youf looking at a couple of grand i'd say.

Duggie · 21-04-2008, 21:30

Quote:

Get a 1.8 t stuck in, rather as farting on with a 1.4

Ok, this may be a lot to ask, but if and when I do decide to go along that route, would be in about a year's time... who'd be up for lending a hand? like a Briskoda team effort... lol

Lummox · 21-04-2008, 21:36

I'm always up for a laugh me

redbaron · 21-04-2008, 21:39

if you plan to swap for a 1.8t dont spend anything on it now.

you could buy a 1.8t for as little as 600quid..

Duggie · 21-04-2008, 21:48

Right, here's the problem, my age, i'm 18. Granted i've been driving for one and a half years with no claims or penalty points but my premium last year, all mods declared was £1000. If I drop a 1.8T in there I can't see that amount going down any time soon. For this reason, i'm going to spend a bit on it now and get it up to reasonable power for my driving style (i'n not a boy racer, just like to be able to pull away and overtake quickly).
It would be fantastic to put some faces to the names on the forum, not just at a meet, but doing what we all ike doing best, tinkering. The other reason i'd like to wait for a while is that next year i'm taking a motorsport engineering degree, might allow me to know what i'm talking about if this goes ahead... lol.
Ultimately, i'd love to keep this car for a long time and turn it into a true one off, nice engine, brakes, etc... if people are willing to help that would be awesome!

vRS Dovit · 22-04-2008, 09:45

As i've said before Duggie, i'll help ya out if i can lol

18-04-2008, 11:28	#1
Duggie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 375 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Making my intake bigger... Ok, yet another "power hungry" thread with regard to my frankly slow 1.4 MPi. As some of you know, i have gone against the views of most on the remap front and it's being taken to Jabba on the 26th April. I have been told that to get the best from the 'map a free flow air filter with a bigger intake could help. I already have the free flow filter, care of K&N.I'm not entirely sure buy I think the airbox on a 1.4 MPi is the same as that on a VRS (a kind of triangular shape?). Is it possible to get a bigger intake to allow more air into the engine? I don't really want to have to fiddle around with hoses or cheap intake kits, just a different PD intake? Would that be available? Cheers guys... no mention of the girlfriend just yet... Duggie. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. Jabbasport rear ARB... (HELL YEAH) Weitec V1 coilovers. Vrs 16' Alloy Wheels. Forge Front Strut Brace. Sidestrips off. Colour coded front grille. Alpine IVA-D105R headunit twinned with a Novex bandpass sub enclosure 2X12 inch subs and a Fusion 1000W amp. Hornet Maxx1 auto alarm.

18-04-2008, 11:30	#2
Babs Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newport/Preston Posts: 4,155 Thanks: 211 Thanked 137 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Throttle bodies is what you need! __________________ - Andrew Octavia vRS For Sale / Bosch Rotary Polisher For Sale

18-04-2008, 11:31	#3
Duggie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 375 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Eh? In regard to the girlfiend or the car? I'm not very mechanically minded! __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. Jabbasport rear ARB... (HELL YEAH) Weitec V1 coilovers. Vrs 16' Alloy Wheels. Forge Front Strut Brace. Sidestrips off. Colour coded front grille. Alpine IVA-D105R headunit twinned with a Novex bandpass sub enclosure 2X12 inch subs and a Fusion 1000W amp. Hornet Maxx1 auto alarm.

18-04-2008, 12:52	#4
vRS Dovit Smoggy Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 1,086 Thanks: 99 Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Oh Duggie Duggie Duggie lol Throttle bodies the bit where all the air goes into. It has a wee flap or "butterfly" that opens n closes when the throttle is used. Gettin a bigger one lets more air in and give you "more power" Not sure about the intake pipe on the 1.4 but if u can, try running a PD130 or the PD 160 IF they fit. HTH __________________ Yeah, its's a Skoda.....so what (and its a Diesel )

18-04-2008, 13:23	#5
Duggie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 375 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Ok, where can i get these throttle bodies? And where could I get them fitted? Also, as for an uprated intake, where can i get one of those? I'm clost to a Vw dealer, Skoda dealer and a Seat dealer. Many thanks, Duggie. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. Jabbasport rear ARB... (HELL YEAH) Weitec V1 coilovers. Vrs 16' Alloy Wheels. Forge Front Strut Brace. Sidestrips off. Colour coded front grille. Alpine IVA-D105R headunit twinned with a Novex bandpass sub enclosure 2X12 inch subs and a Fusion 1000W amp. Hornet Maxx1 auto alarm.

18-04-2008, 13:58	#6
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,897 Thanks: 94 Thanked 122 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Would bother with a remap till you did everything, i.e throttle bodies, port polished, cammed, turbo'd / supercharged __________________

18-04-2008, 18:01	#7
vRS Dovit Smoggy Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 1,086 Thanks: 99 Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... not sure where u'd get throttle bodies. Contact jabba, awesome etc n see what they can do. The PD intakes can be bought from SEAT but will cost u a bit, think there's some PD160's in the sale section. Failing that mate, pm me n u can try my standard PD130. Dont know if you'll see any improvement....... __________________ Yeah, its's a Skoda.....so what (and its a Diesel )

18-04-2008, 19:16	#8
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,897 Thanks: 94 Thanked 122 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Get a 1.8 t stuck in, rather as farting on with a 1.4 __________________

18-04-2008, 19:43	#9
Dmac1969 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Berwick upon Tweed , Northumberland , The Northernmost Town in England , home of the mighty 'Dream Team' , Berwick Rangers FC! Also home of 'The Barrels Alehouse' purveyor of Staropramen Czech Beer , I wouldnt give a xxxx for anything else!! ;) Posts: 2,420 Thanks: 18 Thanked 55 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... I'd be thinking about just doing the map to smooth power delivery out , I cant see any gains being availible on the 1.4 8V engine without having it to bits and fitting cams , throttle bodies etc , and even then you probably wont get much more than 20 bhp (if that). Its always much cheaper just trading the car in for the most powerful one in the range , than trying to tune a base car for power. Unless you can stretch to an engine swap , that is! __________________ Duncan - England's most Northerly Briskodian! 2000/V reg Fabia 1.4 Mpi Comfort-Dynamic Blue Ex Octavia vRS and Octavia Slxi 1.8T.

18-04-2008, 21:56	#10
Duggie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 375 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Oh how i'd love a 1.8T, clearly not everyone has been paying attention to otrher posts on my crazy power wanting threads... an engine swap could be on the cards in the distant future.... -Duggie. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. Jabbasport rear ARB... (HELL YEAH) Weitec V1 coilovers. Vrs 16' Alloy Wheels. Forge Front Strut Brace. Sidestrips off. Colour coded front grille. Alpine IVA-D105R headunit twinned with a Novex bandpass sub enclosure 2X12 inch subs and a Fusion 1000W amp. Hornet Maxx1 auto alarm.

18-04-2008, 23:51	#12
vRS Dovit Smoggy Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 1,086 Thanks: 99 Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... I've PM'd you mate I'll do what i've said in the PM n get back to you asap. __________________ Yeah, its's a Skoda.....so what (and its a Diesel )

19-04-2008, 00:15	#13
Duggie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 375 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Thanks for the PMs and the very generous offers guys, Briskoda really is an awesome resource for all us Skoda owners out there! Thanks again. __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. Jabbasport rear ARB... (HELL YEAH) Weitec V1 coilovers. Vrs 16' Alloy Wheels. Forge Front Strut Brace. Sidestrips off. Colour coded front grille. Alpine IVA-D105R headunit twinned with a Novex bandpass sub enclosure 2X12 inch subs and a Fusion 1000W amp. Hornet Maxx1 auto alarm.

19-04-2008, 00:32	#14
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,470 Thanks: 105 Thanked 498 Times in 467 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Duggie, I'm not going to tell you not to do this, although as you know I fall into the I wouldn't group. What I will say is have a long hard think about what you really want to do before you spend the money. If you are going to do a 1.8t save the money and put it towards the conversion. If you are not I suggest talking to somebody like teflontom, who has done wonders with an old felly engine and will has a lot of knowledge in the area of tuning up N/A engines. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

21-04-2008, 15:50	#16
vRS Dovit Smoggy Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 1,086 Thanks: 99 Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... No need for mine then Duggie.....................lol __________________ Yeah, its's a Skoda.....so what (and its a Diesel )

21-04-2008, 21:14	#20
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,276 Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 734 Times in 616 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Lots, the 16v is a crossflow engine, plus better breathing due to multi valve design. Dont get me wrong stuff can be done to the 8v OHV engine, just to get yourself even to the same power as the std 100bhp 16v youf looking at a couple of grand i'd say. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services www.unit18.co.uk

21-04-2008, 21:36	#22
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,276 Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 734 Times in 616 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... I'm always up for a laugh me __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services www.unit18.co.uk

21-04-2008, 21:39	#23
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,555 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 59 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... if you plan to swap for a 1.8t dont spend anything on it now. you could buy a 1.8t for as little as 600quid.. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

21-04-2008, 21:48	#24
Duggie Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 375 Thanks: 9 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... Right, here's the problem, my age, i'm 18. Granted i've been driving for one and a half years with no claims or penalty points but my premium last year, all mods declared was £1000. If I drop a 1.8T in there I can't see that amount going down any time soon. For this reason, i'm going to spend a bit on it now and get it up to reasonable power for my driving style (i'n not a boy racer, just like to be able to pull away and overtake quickly). It would be fantastic to put some faces to the names on the forum, not just at a meet, but doing what we all ike doing best, tinkering. The other reason i'd like to wait for a while is that next year i'm taking a motorsport engineering degree, might allow me to know what i'm talking about if this goes ahead... lol. Ultimately, i'd love to keep this car for a long time and turn it into a true one off, nice engine, brakes, etc... if people are willing to help that would be awesome! __________________ Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today. Jabbasport rear ARB... (HELL YEAH) Weitec V1 coilovers. Vrs 16' Alloy Wheels. Forge Front Strut Brace. Sidestrips off. Colour coded front grille. Alpine IVA-D105R headunit twinned with a Novex bandpass sub enclosure 2X12 inch subs and a Fusion 1000W amp. Hornet Maxx1 auto alarm.

22-04-2008, 09:45	#25
vRS Dovit Smoggy Hooligan Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kilmarnock Posts: 1,086 Thanks: 99 Thanked 58 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Making my intake bigger... As i've said before Duggie, i'll help ya out if i can lol __________________ Yeah, its's a Skoda.....so what (and its a Diesel )

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