andypandypoos

was I (or anyone) knocking his "personal happiness"? or merely expressing an opinion that he might have had an easier life if he'd started his projct with another vRS? I can totally understand all the work since the PD100-PD130 swap around

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faboka vrs

Come on most members on here love to read about Jason's latest mod.

Least he can look back in life and tell a few stories about his car past. You know we all love past car stories.

Remeber the time I rolled my fabia....

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John

Take away the poor damping, inadequate bushes, heavy diesel lump and spongy brakes its not a bad warm hatch

WW_VRS

Why am I not surprised that caught a comment

Jason's car is unique, and it is an achievement IMHO

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devonutopia

The 3" is referring to the exhaust by the way. The unique thing is I might make it terminate only a foot or so from the right front wheel - out the side.

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Welshy

Maybe not but all the £ & time spent on making it to vRS level + extra insurance costs over a std vRS make is illogical.

If he had bought new it would have cost £11.5k if he bought the oldest 2nd hand vRS now it would be £6k, why didnt he buy a write off of any Fabia model rip out the engine buy a written of TDI150 and transplant the whole lot?

That would be far cheaper than what he has done.

This site helps others (sometimes) but if a newcomer just sees his posts and thinks great I will do that myself then they will be making a poor decision.

If you want a vRS buy one in the first place - if you cannot afford one save up or buy an older VAG with the TDI130 unit in it.

Jas - this is nothing personal at all (I coulndt care less if you spent £40k doing it and it being very difficult to sell) I just cannot & can not be convinced that modifying a basic small city car which is nose heavy is worth ploughing £k into making it faster.
If you wanted a drag strip car why not buy a Lotus Carlton for £11k and chip it up or leave it std and it will smash the best time you ever will post with your mongral all day long and be vastly more reliable than a very highly strung one off.

All my opinion - so please dont get on your high horses now kids.

Shifty

Thats quite alot of patronising in one post.

You obviously don't have the modding "bug" or the desire to have something you made yourself, or the desire to have something no one else has. Thats fine, and you are as entitled to be like that, just as Jason is entitled to do what he does - and push pikey modding beyond it's limits.

Ehat does a Lotus Carlton cost to insure? What are its annual running costs based on say 20 k a year....etc......etc........etc......zzzzzzzzz

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Welshy

Um and how much does a std PD100 fabia which is modified to pushing out 400lbf cost to insure - Id assume its vastly more.

Note for me
Porche 996 Turbo Fcomp = £494
Fabia vRS = £210
BMW M5 = £800
BMW 330d = £360

So for me I'd assume the Lotus Carlton is less than £800 per annum & I know for sure that most insurance companies wouldnt touch the PD100.

Oh I forgot to mention - disabling the airbag.... what did the insurance company say about that modification? Did your premium go up or did they consider it a highly sensible thing to do.

Nuts.
Just think if someone had an accident and (god forbid) you were killed they would have to live with blood on their hands due to your selfishness .
If you have fitted 4 point race harness & a racing seat & wear a Hans device well Im sure you should be ok - but taking a modern car fitted with a safety feature which will save your life and disconnect it.

Im just so annoyed & I wonder if this is in breach of some law?

SteVRs

Having been in the mongrel (albeit a previous incarnation of the mongrel) I can fully appreciate the level of work that's gone into it. Credit to Jason - TBH I think I'd have abandoned it in frustration years ago if it were me, what with all the ups & downs he's had!

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Welshy

What are his annual running costs based upon 20k a year? a 1.9ltr engine stressed to >400lbf or a Lotus Carlton with its 3.6ltr twin turbo unit which produces 412lbf - if you think the 1.9ltr will be more reliable can you please state why you believe that is the case over a 1200 run of main stream production cars which went though serious R&D - with experts (no dig here) vs someone who cannot afford to buy a vRS even 2nd hand.

Please tell me how he or others like him have more skills than those in the R&D of any car makers - and once you have told me give the same arguement to the car makers to see if they will offer you a job so they can utilise these special skills.

tippo1983

welshy, whatever is rammed right up your rectum please remove it, your beginning to bitch like my mother

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Welshy

Please explain here - are you supporting him for deactivating his drivers airbag and thus considering doing it to your own car as its such a good idea?

Also given that the airbag is deactivated do you seriously think he has informed his insurance company? I highly doubt it and as such if that is the case he may as well drive around with no insurance - which puts the likes of other road users & pedestrians at high risk. If he cannot arofford to buy a vRS in the first place how do you expect him to pay for the lifetime medical care of an injured innocent 3rd party?

Also if your going to join in a debate put in valid reasons/points putting what you replied with makes you look pretty naive - Im sorry to say.

Jimb0

How does deactivating your airbag have any effect on your insurance?

Crash -> die = no need for payout = ??? = Profit

Its more likely to have an effect on your life insurance if you have it, isn't it?

1) doesn't make the car more stealable.

2) doesn't increase your chance of having a crash

3) doesn't increase engine performance or power output

Welshy

What if you dont die - you will be seriously injured vs head hitting airbag and then they will have to pay out for life for your medical care.

Ask you insurance company what effect on my premium will deactivating the drivers airbag have??

Shifty

Nope - I didnt say which was more rigourously tested, nor did I say the Mongrel was "better" than a Lotus Carlton. I simply asked the running costs. Fuel - servicing...those are running costs.

Airbags - how does deactivating your airbag affect anyone else but himself. Life did exist before airbags you know, and believe it or not ABS, and all the other goodies you have become accustomed too.

Im smoking around in a 25 year old Jetta..... who is in more danger in a collision - me - or Jason?

Also, insurance, please explain that in the very unlikely event of Jason not being insured, how does that put pedestrians and other road users at great risk? Is he more likely to have an accident? Or do you mean they are less likely to recieve compensation if he hits them?

And who said that a newbie may get the wrong impression from a modified Fabia? What?
17 thousand members have joined since Jason....at least, and no one else has mirrored his vehicle. What makes you think someone will now?

Your head is about as far up your own **** as it will go.

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Jimb0

So are you saying that cars without airbags are a higher insurance group that cars with? of a similar performance spec?

Welshy

Your missing the point - any change from std is a modification (even if as in this case its a downgrade) now only a certain type of person will modify/change a car from std and due to the fact most of these are young ***** who have lots of points and keep crashing their cars its risk profile is higher for the company.

In addition do you not think the insurance borker will question why would you want to remove a safety feature?

Also thinking about it the Ncap rating includes the performance of the airbags (+seatbelts/crumple zones etc) so take this out your lowering the NCap rating thus higher insurance rating.

Also if he crashes the car and the ins comp decides its a write off they will have to supply a car of the same condition and spec - which will mean they will have to employ a mechanic to disable the airbag in the new car = added cost = more premium.

Shifty

+ +

I've always been sent a cheque in the past.... I don't know about you.

And where are your thought out fact filled answers to my questions and statements.

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Welshy

I do not think you can buy a new car today without a drivers airbag & I believe that has been the case since 2000.

Insurance groups may be the same but the risk profile is higher.

Put it this way a Clio Sport 172 is group 16 IIRC mine is group 18 yet the premium for the clio is much more than that of mine (even putting in identical values - its due to the fact there have been more claims on that one than mine).

Welshy

Never had an accident so not been in that situation.

However if they offer you an amount which you know will not buy the same and they refuse to supply you with an amoutn to buy a similar car then you can demand that they supply a car for you.

Jimb0

But if we get back on topic, no person would deactivate their airbag for the sake of it on a standard car.

Jason is only doing it out of the safety for himself, im sure the insurance company would love paying out for a claim after his airbag goes off whilst he doing 70mph down a busy M5.

The insurance company im sure are aware of the engine transplant on the mongrel, employing someone to deactive the airbag is insignificant when they will have to pay for a complete reconstruction of all the mods he has currently carried out.

ScoobyChris

That's an interesting point actually. If you have airbags, your chances of walking away unharmed are higher (statistically I guess which may minimise medical costs arising from a personal injury), however, having airbags also significantly impacts the cost to repair the car in the event they're deployed....

So on balance, I wonder if it makes sod all difference

Chris

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Jimb0

Using the same logic, How may claims have there been for a Fabia PD100 with a PD130 Engine transplant running on LPG and Diesel? Far less than a Fabia vRS, So would his premium be less than Stock Fabia vRS?

tippo1983

no welshy i wasn’t trying to put in a valid point. i was just informing you that your a tit. im sure he's well aware of the dangers involved by switching off his air bag. you sometime have to realise people will do what they want regardless at how it make you personally feel. for example i smoke, i know its going to kill me but i really dont care.

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