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08-01-2006, 22:52
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| ouch..... not a very good start to the new year for this fabia owner , car in question is a fabia 1.4 16v 57,000 miles and a 2000 year, what has happened is the cam belt adjuster has broken up causing one valve to hit the piston and snap off becoming lodged in the head when the piston come back up again the valve has gone through the piston top... pics as below....        customer gone for an exchange engine cost inc labour £2500 
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08-01-2006, 22:56
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| Re: ouch..... Yeah I've seen the same failure on the A2 1.4 16v as well !!, my customers have been lucky tho -- havn't had one as bad as that yet!
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08-01-2006, 22:56
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| Re: ouch..... Nasty... £2500 is that viable..?
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08-01-2006, 23:04
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| Re: ouch..... I'd be gutted. Seems scandalous really. 
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08-01-2006, 23:23
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| Re: ouch..... i wouldnt pay 2500 to fix a car worth 3500 if it a good spec. it would really suck are skoda satisfied that such a low milage engine should fail like that? thats acceptable to them? i'd be goint mental at them |
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08-01-2006, 23:37
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| Re: ouch..... **** thats bad
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08-01-2006, 23:50
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| Re: ouch..... Bad news for the owner! 
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08-01-2006, 23:54
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| Re: ouch..... On that engine i'd advise a new cambelt and tensioner at 60k or 5 years, bet it wasnt done as there is nothing on paper to say when to change the belt on time. |
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08-01-2006, 23:57
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| Re: ouch..... I'd scrap it and get a newer one rather than shell out that!! But I'm not the owner. Maybe the option is not viable?? |
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08-01-2006, 23:59
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| Re: ouch..... Am I right in saying that on any Fabia/Octy engine this is the kind of catastrophic result, if the cambelt snaps? My PD100 belt was close to snapping when it was changed at 60k - I think I'll change my pd130 one closer to 40k....
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09-01-2006, 00:23
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| Re: ouch..... Just about any engine in production these days will have that result if any of the following break - cambelt - tensioner (inc damper on 20v) - idler rollers - cam chain - water pump (if cambelt driven) |
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09-01-2006, 06:37
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| Re: ouch..... I've just crossed 90k kms. Am I at risk of any belts snapping like that??? My car goes in only next week for service!
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09-01-2006, 07:36
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| Re: ouch..... Quote:
For those that don't know 90,000km is about 55,000 miles.
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09-01-2006, 07:44
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| Re: ouch..... 56,250 miles to be exact Yes well, unfortunately thats how service intervals go here. So if 60,000 miles is Skoda's service schedule for the belts, I should be okay until next week when it goes in for the full service. But damn...those images are nasty...like lookin' at someone who's just had a limb taken off
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09-01-2006, 08:25
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| Re: ouch..... It's a pretty crucial set of components - I tended to replace cambelt, tensioners etc on every second-hand car I've owned (most were high-mileage cars, one had 30k miles on) just so I knew it had that done. Surprised someone would want to spend 2500 on a replacement engine when they can buy a different second-hand version of the same vehicle for a similar cost though - they must really love their car I suppose. Are they going to be given some kinda discount do you think, if the mileage is below the recommended interval for changing the parts involved? Also, slightly OT, would you recommend changing these parts sooner if the engine (ECU) has been remapped? Say change at 10-20% earlier?
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09-01-2006, 10:01
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| Re: ouch..... Quote:
Got lucky(ish) with my old Xantia, as I got the belt changed for free as part of an overdue recall on the tensioner for the 1.8 16v engine - I say 'lucky(ish)', 'cos although I was glad the dealer was honest enough to do it for free, I'm still grateful it didn't decide to go before I got it done...
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09-01-2006, 14:10
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I seem to remember a few years ago that VAG had problems with the Water Pump plastic impeller blades breaking off, then jamming the water pump, then snapping the cambelt, and then a big BANG! I find it quite incredible that manufacturers continue to risk the whole integrity of the engine by choosing to use a £9.99 plastic belt for such an important function. I read somewhere that Subaru incorporate a mechanism which immediately closes all the valves in the event of a cambelt failure, therefore saving the engine from any consequential damage.
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09-01-2006, 14:24
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| Re: ouch..... Chill peeps no need to panic this sort of failure doesn't happen often (in 18+ years) working on skuds) i can count on one hand the cars that have actually done damage after cambelt/tensioner failure.
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09-01-2006, 15:55
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| Re: ouch..... My 1.4 16v has 51k miles now, really worry me after seeing these photos. But my manual doesn't say anything about the cam belt for petrol engine, it does say cam belt change required for diesel engine.
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10-01-2006, 09:37
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| Re: ouch..... Quote:
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