Still No Power Steering

Joey122mac · 10-03-2007, 11:51

A while back I posted the problems I was having with power steering ever since my window got smashed.

I got a second hand PAS pump and got someone to replace it but there is still no PAS.

The orange light has been on the dashbord for a good six months.

Can driving like this cause problems for the steering rack? I am generally quite soft with the car.

Also - What will I need to do to get PAS back - I ve replaced the PAS pump without joy.

ric04vrs · 10-03-2007, 13:06

instead of messing about spending money on parts that don't fix the job , take the car to a good dealer (if there is one) and let them sort it out , there must be fault codes in there somewhere ,

you've got VAGCOM haven't you , why don't go to the dealer with the list of faults , someone must be able to fix it

has Lummox got any thoughts on this ?

Lummox · 10-03-2007, 13:08

Its needs diagnosis stlll then.

Simple enough to do.

Is there a live at the pump? Is there an earth at the pump? Is there an ignition live at the pump? If all of these are good then providing there isnt a CAN communication fault (easy enough to see in MBV) the pump should work with the diagnostics. This will give you a fault code to work on if its a sensor related fault.

The system is really simple, as long as it has a power supply and it knows you are turning the steering wheel it will work.

Joey122mac · 10-03-2007, 13:46

Thanks guys

Whats MBV?

Lummox · 10-03-2007, 13:58

Measured Block Values

yellowcupra · 10-03-2007, 14:42

Just a though but if the car has logged the window smash as a crash it turns off PAS. Had this myself on my cupra just reset it using VAGCOM

Lummox · 10-03-2007, 15:30

The crash sensors are mounted on the floor and in the airbag ECU, not sure if smashing a window would set them off (hazzards should also flash etc).

But a diagnostic test would point that out.

Lummox · 10-03-2007, 15:33

Just checked and indeed Fault code 01656 is crash signal and is sent via the airbag ECU.

10-03-2007, 11:51	#1
Joey122mac Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 339 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Still No Power Steering A while back I posted the problems I was having with power steering ever since my window got smashed. I got a second hand PAS pump and got someone to replace it but there is still no PAS. The orange light has been on the dashbord for a good six months. Can driving like this cause problems for the steering rack? I am generally quite soft with the car. Also - What will I need to do to get PAS back - I ve replaced the PAS pump without joy.

10-03-2007, 13:06	#2
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,168 Members Car: silver Fabia VRS Thanks: 31 Thanked 188 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering instead of messing about spending money on parts that don't fix the job , take the car to a good dealer (if there is one) and let them sort it out , there must be fault codes in there somewhere , you've got VAGCOM haven't you , why don't go to the dealer with the list of faults , someone must be able to fix it has Lummox got any thoughts on this ? __________________ not so bored now

10-03-2007, 13:08	#3
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,476 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 758 Times in 636 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering Its needs diagnosis stlll then. Simple enough to do. Is there a live at the pump? Is there an earth at the pump? Is there an ignition live at the pump? If all of these are good then providing there isnt a CAN communication fault (easy enough to see in MBV) the pump should work with the diagnostics. This will give you a fault code to work on if its a sensor related fault. The system is really simple, as long as it has a power supply and it knows you are turning the steering wheel it will work. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

10-03-2007, 13:46	#4
Joey122mac Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 339 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering Thanks guys Whats MBV?

10-03-2007, 13:58	#5
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,476 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 758 Times in 636 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering Measured Block Values __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

10-03-2007, 14:42	#6
yellowcupra Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: yorkshire Posts: 126 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering Just a though but if the car has logged the window smash as a crash it turns off PAS. Had this myself on my cupra just reset it using VAGCOM

10-03-2007, 15:30	#7
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,476 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 758 Times in 636 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering The crash sensors are mounted on the floor and in the airbag ECU, not sure if smashing a window would set them off (hazzards should also flash etc). But a diagnostic test would point that out. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

10-03-2007, 15:33	#8
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,476 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 758 Times in 636 Posts	Re: Still No Power Steering Just checked and indeed Fault code 01656 is crash signal and is sent via the airbag ECU. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

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