Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325

nashchrs · 19-05-2006, 20:10

Generic Vs Generic.
Has anyone had any experience with them both?
I understand that Jabba is the most popular one.

Superchips Well Lane Turbo's are offering £395 if you pay cash only(they pay your VAT) a free power run chucked in too.

devonutopia · 19-05-2006, 20:14

Well, for £30 over the superchips price Jabba will do you a custom remap on their rollers which means lots of tweaking and lots of power runs to get it set up right.

Normally £425, but not sure if you get anything off that, or even if there's a group buy running at the moment?

nashchrs · 19-05-2006, 20:37

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Originally Posted by devonutopia

Well, for £30 over the superchips price Jabba will do you a custom remap on their rollers which means lots of tweaking and lots of power runs to get it set up right.

Normally £425, but not sure if you get anything off that, or even if there's a group buy running at the moment?

I looked at that, but REALLY i'd have thought you should have additional mods to benefit from a custom jobby!!

SkodiRS · 19-05-2006, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by nashchrs

Generic Vs Generic.
Has anyone had any experience with them both?
I understand that Jabba is the most popular one.

Superchips Well Lane Turbo's are offering £395 if you pay cash only(they pay your VAT) a free power run chucked in too.

Jabba's generic map is £325 inc vat....you'll get a full diagnostic check before hand but not a rolling road print out. Can be had for extra though.

Full remap is £425 but BRISKODIANs get a 5% discount or 10% if on a group buy.

For £403.75 (5% discount) the custom map can be tailored to you're requirements...includes 3-4 hours of rr times and before/after plots.

If you have other mods to do then the custom map will tak ethem into consideration but, it every engine is different so will map out differently regardless of other mods.

nashchrs · 19-05-2006, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodiRS

Jabba's generic map is £325 inc vat....you'll get a full diagnostic check before hand but not a rolling road print out. Can be had for extra though.

Full remap is £425 but BRISKODIANs get a 5% discount or 10% if on a group buy.

For £403.75 (5% discount) the custom map can be tailored to you're requirements...includes 3-4 hours of rr times and before/after plots.

If you have other mods to do then the custom map will tak ethem into consideration but, it every engine is different so will map out differently regardless of other mods.

Sounds very tempting! for a few bob over the superchips generic price.

devonutopia · 19-05-2006, 21:41

you don't "need" other mods - the generic map will be the same and should give more power with other mods. If you get the pd160 intake fitted before going to Jabba that will help on its own.

Stuart_J · 20-05-2006, 04:26

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Originally Posted by nashchrs

Sounds very tempting! for a few bob over the superchips generic price.

Bonus is that if the car is run up on the rollers they will often find any other problems you have with the car.

We have had 2 cars mapped by Jabba, both custom maps & the results were worth every penny

**VRStu** · 20-05-2006, 07:23

It's bit like buying a suit off the peg which will fit, but spend a little extra and have one tailored and it'll fit you perfectly.

WW_VRS · 20-05-2006, 08:05

I've not driven a Superchipped car, been passenger in a custom-mapped Jabba one.

Regardless of this:

* Custom map by ANY (good) tuner will beat a standard map in many ways
* With a custom map you can specify you want to avoid a massive torque spike
* Custom map tends to have more power & torque output (unless you dont want it)
* It's engine specific so it's likely to get the most out of it

The price difference in this case, especially with the discounts Briskoda members get, would swing it towards Jabbasport in this case, for me at least, in that situation.

Totally agree though, you definitely want the PD160 air intake fitting pre-remap, or give Jabba a buzz and I'm sure they can get you one in

HellFire · 20-05-2006, 08:44

mine produced 195 bhp and 323 lb/ft of torque on jabba's old rollers. if the figures are correct that means it's 30 bhp more than superchips quote and iirc 50 lb/ft of torque more. the only mods where cupra intake and a green panel filter. the car had covered 5,000 miles.

nashchrs, if your coming to the Yorkshire meet on the 28/05 @ 3pm at Xscape I can show you what the Jabba'd version of the vRS is like

nashchrs · 20-05-2006, 15:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFire

mine produced 195 bhp and 323 lb/ft of torque on jabba's old rollers. if the figures are correct that means it's 30 bhp more than superchips quote and iirc 50 lb/ft of torque more. the only mods where cupra intake and a green panel filter. the car had covered 5,000 miles.

nashchrs, if your coming to the Yorkshire meet on the 28/05 @ 3pm at Xscape I can show you what the Jabba'd version of the vRS is like

I'd like to mate but my G/F is due next wednesday so i'm tied up most of the time until the babys born but i'll sort somet out and come to one of the meets as xscape is just round corner from me.

sharkrider · 20-05-2006, 16:16

the superchips one comes with a garuntee for the parts affected by the re-map doesn't it? for 12 months? like, er the engine , turbo ect? I'd go for that, just for peice of mind

nashchrs · 20-05-2006, 17:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkrider

the superchips one comes with a garuntee for the parts affected by the re-map doesn't it? for 12 months? like, er the engine , turbo ect? I'd go for that, just for peice of mind

Thats right yes.

Decisions,Decisions!

Shifty · 20-05-2006, 18:36

Mine is generic on my Fabia, and it goes very well indeed. Naming the tuner would be a bit unfair, so do some reasearch under threads started by me.

163 at the wheels on Awesome GTi's dyno, and 305 ft lbs, but the flywheel used to shake at that, so now its 285 ft lbs.

It's as powerfull and as quick as one fitted with an fmic.

chowy · 20-05-2006, 18:46

Mine is a Custom Jabba and I've also driven a Celtic generic mapped car albeit with Milltek exhaust and I can honestly say that they feel very similar and if anything, the Celtic car revved easier at the top end.

Not sure if this could be contributed by the Milltek Turbo back system though, as this was quite a bit louder too when 'on it' which in turn contributed to greater subjective speed. Very impressive though, mine is sooo quiet by comparison.

WW_VRS · 20-05-2006, 20:01

Also the general consensus appears to be that whichever tuner you go for, unless they are totally cr@p, you'll get an improvement on the PD engines.

You have mild maps like the 'standard' AMD one-click, which already makes an excellent difference in driveability, from thereon it's just more power & torque etc.

Cheaper options are digital or analogue tuning boxes/resistors (respectively) and if not used too crazily they can give you a lot of the benefits too

redcupratdi · 20-05-2006, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFire

mine produced 195 bhp and 323 lb/ft of torque on jabba's old rollers. if the figures are correct that means it's 30 bhp more than superchips quote and iirc 50 lb/ft of torque more. the only mods where cupra intake and a green panel filter. the car had covered 5,000 miles.

nashchrs, if your coming to the Yorkshire meet on the 28/05 @ 3pm at Xscape I can show you what the Jabba'd version of the vRS is like

take that with a large pinch of salt and a splash of vineger!

just with remapp and larger intake will see 165-180 on a remap, on a cold day 180 less when the smic become heat soaked. 195 is a mad figure! thats 5-8bhp less than a curpa tdi 160 remapped. infact i haven't had it on the rollers but you 've got 328lbs/ft i'll be lucky to see that! sorry but realistic the power increase is to between 170-180.

p.s custom code at head office are doing 15% discount at mo i think may just be ended. also back to thread rolling road tuning is best. and worth extra dosh

also consider serouisly to have a brake upgrade and suspension change. need it to handle power! 150bhp+ or a hedge will be damaged.

jabba over superchips everytime!

Roger M · 20-05-2006, 22:28

Errr - neither of the above, but had mine done at APS Brackley. I'm well pleased, it's more what I wanted (these are very personal things

.

It's much more driveable (and that's what I asked for) than the one on my previous vRS.

They tune it out on the road with a computer, so you get exactly what you ask for.

VG price too. I think on its own about £400 inc VAT, but I had some other stuff done too

Roger M

Micky 32 · 21-05-2006, 14:16

Well ive seen a PD with hybrid turbo and and nearly 220bhp and it hardly smoked more than stock, if you dont want smoke go for superchips IMO.

Stuart_J · 21-05-2006, 14:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micky 32

Well ive seen a PD with hybrid turbo and and nearly 220bhp and it hardly smoked more than stock, if you dont want smoke go for superchips IMO.

Our Octy 110 went to 164 at jabba with 393 N/m of torque, you can see a small amount of smoke at night if you boot it after youve cruised for many miles but If I recall correctly it was like that before.
The cars now got 112000 miles on the clock & it was mapped at 8000, its still on the original clutch & mpg averages in the low 50's so I guess they got it about right. Im certainly very pleased with the result

.

Spanner · 21-05-2006, 14:39

If you can go for a custom version its going to be better so they adjust it to how you want it setup.

I think with people saying it smokes/ it doesnt smoke much is that you need to make sure that your in suitable gear. No point booting it with low revs in a tall gear as it really will be a smokescreen, as i can testify. I think you need to adjust your driving style to suit the engine performance.

It does seem to depend on what fuel your running as well. I dont think your'll really know until you have 1 of each and try them out!

ScoobyChris · 21-05-2006, 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger M

It's much more driveable (and that's what I asked for) than the one on my previous vRS.

They tune it out on the road with a computer, so you get exactly what you ask for.

Exactly! The best tune will be out on the road because then you're not mapping it under artificial conditions. The only concern is that you have to do it on a private road

Chris

nashchrs · 21-05-2006, 18:08

The Superchips dealer is right on my doorstep and Jabba's in peterborough!Thats the only concern.

Laziness at the end of the day though.

Micky 32 · 21-05-2006, 18:11

But the car i know in question that was done by superchips can be driven anyway and still produce very little smoke, Its all in the mapping.

19-05-2006, 20:10	#1
nashchrs Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 92 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Generic Vs Generic. Has anyone had any experience with them both? I understand that Jabba is the most popular one. Superchips Well Lane Turbo's are offering £395 if you pay cash only(they pay your VAT) a free power run chucked in too. __________________ Black Magic Fabia VRS With Ibiza PD160 Air Intake...... ChipBoosted To 175bhp,280lb/ft Torque!With a "Baby on Board" Sticker Last edited by nashchrs; 19-05-2006 at 20:12.

19-05-2006, 20:14	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,478 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Well, for £30 over the superchips price Jabba will do you a custom remap on their rollers which means lots of tweaking and lots of power runs to get it set up right. Normally £425, but not sure if you get anything off that, or even if there's a group buy running at the moment? __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

19-05-2006, 21:41	#6
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,478 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 you don't "need" other mods - the generic map will be the same and should give more power with other mods. If you get the pd160 intake fitted before going to Jabba that will help on its own. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

20-05-2006, 07:23	#8
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 21,111 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 195 Thanked 1,046 Times in 928 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 It's bit like buying a suit off the peg which will fit, but spend a little extra and have one tailored and it'll fit you perfectly. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

20-05-2006, 08:05	#9
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,954 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 47 Thanked 92 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 I've not driven a Superchipped car, been passenger in a custom-mapped Jabba one. Regardless of this: * Custom map by ANY (good) tuner will beat a standard map in many ways * With a custom map you can specify you want to avoid a massive torque spike * Custom map tends to have more power & torque output (unless you dont want it) * It's engine specific so it's likely to get the most out of it The price difference in this case, especially with the discounts Briskoda members get, would swing it towards Jabbasport in this case, for me at least, in that situation. Totally agree though, you definitely want the PD160 air intake fitting pre-remap, or give Jabba a buzz and I'm sure they can get you one in __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

20-05-2006, 08:44	#10
HellFire Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 3,174 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 mine produced 195 bhp and 323 lb/ft of torque on jabba's old rollers. if the figures are correct that means it's 30 bhp more than superchips quote and iirc 50 lb/ft of torque more. the only mods where cupra intake and a green panel filter. the car had covered 5,000 miles. nashchrs, if your coming to the Yorkshire meet on the 28/05 @ 3pm at Xscape I can show you what the Jabba'd version of the vRS is like __________________ Metro Blue '06' 5 Door Astra 1.8 SRi Last edited by HellFire; 20-05-2006 at 08:46.

20-05-2006, 16:16	#12
sharkrider rider of sharks Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Cumbria Posts: 3,895 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 247 Thanked 109 Times in 95 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 the superchips one comes with a garuntee for the parts affected by the re-map doesn't it? for 12 months? like, er the engine , turbo ect? I'd go for that, just for peice of mind __________________ Fiat Grande Punto Sporting (158 bhp 314 lbs/ft) in Red.... Furby vRS , black magic,passenger airbag de-activation switch, (now gone, but not forgotten!)

20-05-2006, 18:36	#14
Shifty Ex Modder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Blackpool. Posts: 6,645 Members Car: Omega 2.5 V6 CDX Auto Images: 2 Thanks: 93 Thanked 175 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Mine is generic on my Fabia, and it goes very well indeed. Naming the tuner would be a bit unfair, so do some reasearch under threads started by me. 163 at the wheels on Awesome GTi's dyno, and 305 ft lbs, but the flywheel used to shake at that, so now its 285 ft lbs. It's as powerfull and as quick as one fitted with an fmic. __________________ <----- Add me on Xfire. Everyone knows someone called Dave. That's me - I'm Dave™

20-05-2006, 18:46	#15
chowy Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 763 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Mine is a Custom Jabba and I've also driven a Celtic generic mapped car albeit with Milltek exhaust and I can honestly say that they feel very similar and if anything, the Celtic car revved easier at the top end. Not sure if this could be contributed by the Milltek Turbo back system though, as this was quite a bit louder too when 'on it' which in turn contributed to greater subjective speed. Very impressive though, mine is sooo quiet by comparison. __________________ Present: BMW 130i M Sport 2007 \| Titanium Silver (No need to use indicators no more ) Sadly gone: Skoda Fabia vRS 2005 \| Black Magic (for pleasure) Present: Skoda Octavia Ambiente 1.9 Tdi 2005 \| Diamond Silver (for work)

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WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,954 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 47 Thanked 92 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Also the general consensus appears to be that whichever tuner you go for, unless they are totally cr@p, you'll get an improvement on the PD engines. You have mild maps like the 'standard' AMD one-click, which already makes an excellent difference in driveability, from thereon it's just more power & torque etc. Cheaper options are digital or analogue tuning boxes/resistors (respectively) and if not used too crazily they can give you a lot of the benefits too __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

20-05-2006, 22:28	#18
Roger M Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Bicester, Oxon Posts: 90 Members Car: Fabia vRS, cc, xenons.... Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Errr - neither of the above, but had mine done at APS Brackley. I'm well pleased, it's more what I wanted (these are very personal things . It's much more driveable (and that's what I asked for) than the one on my previous vRS. They tune it out on the road with a computer, so you get exactly what you ask for. VG price too. I think on its own about £400 inc VAT, but I had some other stuff done too Roger M __________________ Happiness is:- Furby #2 '06 Fabia vRS.... Black Magic.... ESP.... APS remap.... Cupra intake.... Milltek turbo back exhaust.... Cruise control.... Xenons.... Rear parking aid.... Swissoled since birth.... Black leather seats.... Noisekiller.... Tom Tom.... Orign b2....

21-05-2006, 14:16	#19
Micky 32 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longford, Ireland Posts: 460 Members Car: Race blue vRS 200bhp Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 Well ive seen a PD with hybrid turbo and and nearly 220bhp and it hardly smoked more than stock, if you dont want smoke go for superchips IMO. __________________ 2008 Race blue 2.0 TFSI vRS, xenons, jumbo box, dual zone, rear electric windows, maxidot, rain sensing wipers and dimming mirror, light assist, rear parking sensors, cruise control, ESP and anti wet ars!e feature....Mods: Chipped Ireland development mapping and Milltek turbo back exhaust, Autotech fuel pump, Evom's, Nuespeed intercooler hose, Forge Twintercooler and 288bhp and 344lbft

21-05-2006, 14:39	#21
Spanner Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mid Beds Posts: 429 Members Car: fab vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 If you can go for a custom version its going to be better so they adjust it to how you want it setup. I think with people saying it smokes/ it doesnt smoke much is that you need to make sure that your in suitable gear. No point booting it with low revs in a tall gear as it really will be a smokescreen, as i can testify. I think you need to adjust your driving style to suit the engine performance. It does seem to depend on what fuel your running as well. I dont think your'll really know until you have 1 of each and try them out! __________________ Fabia vRS forunner to the Bentley Continental GT Briskoda - Skoda's illegitimate family Mods: Superchip, K&N filter, Eibach springs, FSD dampers, black front grille,

21-05-2006, 18:08	#23
nashchrs Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 92 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 The Superchips dealer is right on my doorstep and Jabba's in peterborough!Thats the only concern. Laziness at the end of the day though. __________________ Black Magic Fabia VRS With Ibiza PD160 Air Intake...... ChipBoosted To 175bhp,280lb/ft Torque!With a "Baby on Board" Sticker

21-05-2006, 18:11	#24
Micky 32 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Longford, Ireland Posts: 460 Members Car: Race blue vRS 200bhp Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Superchips £395 vs JabbaSports £325 But the car i know in question that was done by superchips can be driven anyway and still produce very little smoke, Its all in the mapping. __________________ 2008 Race blue 2.0 TFSI vRS, xenons, jumbo box, dual zone, rear electric windows, maxidot, rain sensing wipers and dimming mirror, light assist, rear parking sensors, cruise control, ESP and anti wet ars!e feature....Mods: Chipped Ireland development mapping and Milltek turbo back exhaust, Autotech fuel pump, Evom's, Nuespeed intercooler hose, Forge Twintercooler and 288bhp and 344lbft

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