Unleaded in a vRS - B*******!!!

magnum67 · 22-10-2005, 00:33

In a moment of total and utter madness, I've gone and put a tenner's worth of unleaded in my vRS... Unfortunately I didn't spot this until 7.45 tonight when I ground to a halt on the south slip of J37 M6.

Now considerably wiser and [when I've paid off my sister's credit card] £170 lighter, I need words of advice [no doubt preceded by many waves of ridicule] as to whether I have done lasting damage to the injectors and other such things

The garage that drained the tank reckon I'll be OK but would there be any benefit in lobbing some injector cleaner into my next tank of diesel ??

Geese3Geese · 22-10-2005, 00:40

No idea mate, but i've got ulimate sympathy 4 you.

What a blag!

Geese.

Let me know the outcome.

Glider · 22-10-2005, 00:45

Someone else done it recently and suffered no ill effects just run good diesel in it and hopefully all should be well. Do a search for the recent post.

devonutopia · 22-10-2005, 01:12

Some Millers diesel-plus might not go amiss. Better off in the long run just to keep putting the right fuel in.

(sorry

)

I reckon you'll be fine. Unleaded in a diesel, isn't as bad as the other way round.

MikeW · 22-10-2005, 03:08

Finger's crossed for you mate, i've nearly done exactly the same thing on many occassions.

ScoobyChris · 22-10-2005, 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Some Millers diesel-plus might not go amiss.

Does the handbook say NOT to put any additives through the engine?

Chris

bengie · 22-10-2005, 10:58

you see, subconsiously you fabia vRS drivers wish you had bought a proper(petrol) car and can't get these thoughts out of your head

Shifty · 22-10-2005, 11:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by bengie

you see, subconsiously you fabia vRS drivers wish you had bought a proper(petrol) car and can't get these thoughts out of your head

Shifty · 22-10-2005, 11:07

As said, just fill it to the brim with good diesel, NO injector cleaner. I would replace the fuel filter though. Petrol is the best injector cleaner there is. Used to put it in my pug hdi (1 gallon in a tank of diesel) when i got it as it was all clogged up and powerless. Worked a treat. Dont know about the PD unit though, although the basics cant be too far removed.

Lummox · 22-10-2005, 11:23

Dont stick petrol in a diesel whatever you do, certianly dont listen to Shifty's advice (sorry mate). Diesel is a heavy oil. The fuel has lubrication properties which is used to lubricate parts of the diesel system such as the injection pump (if fitted) and injectors. Flushing petrol through it cleans off this lubrication and it runs dry. Think of it like draining your oil out of your engine and running it up, it just ends up grinding metal. We have a 2.5 Superb here at the moment which has to have a new pump for this reason, I can think of better ways of spending £2,000 to be honest.

However on a Fabia PD you should be ok, worth changing the fuel filter though.

magnum67 · 22-10-2005, 14:09

Thanks guys

Guess I'll be off to get a fuel filter and a tank of decent diesel...

Doubtful in the extreme that I'll ever forget "unleaded into vRS is a no-no" [

] but I'm gonna mark the filler cap in some way to make doubly sure...

Wardy · 22-10-2005, 14:47

Think this has come up before - but what about fitting diesel and petrol cars with different shaped fillers? And having the service station pumps with the corresponding shape?

Square for petrol, triangular for diesel something like that?

Although having never fallen foul of it myself, I imagine it's easily done. If you're thinking of other things at the time, or you drive a variety of cars for example.

Steve

Gizmo68 · 22-10-2005, 15:00

I thought all newer cars were colour coded?
i.e. black for diesel, green for unleaded.

Lummox · 22-10-2005, 15:01

Would be great wouldnt it. But you would have to get every petrol supplier and every car maker to follow suit and convert all cars currently on the road.

magnum67 · 22-10-2005, 15:38

On the forecourt I used, the pumps are colour coded. But I'd had a s*** day and had swapped to my Furby from my petrol Fiesta and I didn't make the connect...

Have to admit bafflement as to why the nozzles and / or fuel fillers aren't different. After all they did it when leaded swapped to unleaded - you couldn't put the leaded nozzle in a car designed for unleaded... Apparently you shouldn't be able to put diesel in a petrol car for the same reason, though I've heard of it happening, so guess some petrol retailers don't especially care if some silly sod [

] f**** up !!

Fabia 12v · 22-10-2005, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizmo68

I thought all newer cars were colour coded?
i.e. black for diesel, green for unleaded.

Yup just checked my furby.... the nozzle receiver is green plastic.

flatfourburble · 22-10-2005, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Would be great wouldnt it. But you would have to get every petrol supplier and every car maker to follow suit and convert all cars currently on the road.

and the cheaper and easier option would be to engage brain before pumping!

Even my dad has done it when he borrowed the Rover, he filled it up to the top with diesel (only£7-10 of petrol was put in).

So it's easly to do

Wardy · 22-10-2005, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Would be great wouldnt it. But you would have to get every petrol supplier and every car maker to follow suit and convert all cars currently on the road.

Not a mega problem I don't think. Could just be a plastic sleeve for the pump nossles, and existing cars could be fitted with a template of some sort, over the standard round filler insert....

On the colour argument, that does help, obviously. But it's clearly not enough. And I'm not sure if the BP Ultimate diesel pump is green?!?

Steve

devonutopia · 22-10-2005, 15:53

BP ultimate is a kind of dark blue around here, to differentiate it from the ultimate unleaded which is a kinf od light

shade of blue.

Diesel is usually black and petrol usually green. However if I go somewhere unfamiliar I'll read the nozzle right down to the ISO number or whatever is on them, just to be sure.

pbirkett · 22-10-2005, 16:11

I'm not being funny, but it amazes me how many people do this. Why dont people CHECK to ensure they have the right pump before putting fuel in. When you consider the implications for your car and wallet, I am surprised that people dont think about it before they start putting fuel in the car.

22-10-2005, 00:33	#1
magnum67 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unleaded in a vRS - B***!!! In a moment of total and utter madness, I've gone and put a tenner's worth of unleaded in my vRS... Unfortunately I didn't spot this until 7.45 tonight when I ground to a halt on the south slip of J37 M6. Now considerably wiser and [when I've paid off my sister's credit card] £170 lighter, I need words of advice [no doubt preceded by many waves of ridicule] as to whether I have done lasting damage to the injectors and other such things The garage that drained the tank reckon I'll be OK but would there be any benefit in lobbing some injector cleaner into my next tank of diesel ?? __________________ Member in name only... Oh dear...

22-10-2005, 01:12	#4
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,200 Thanks: 60 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	Some Millers diesel-plus might not go amiss. Better off in the long run just to keep putting the right fuel in. (sorry ) I reckon you'll be fine. Unleaded in a diesel, isn't as bad as the other way round. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

22-10-2005, 10:58	#7
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,645 Thanks: 15 Thanked 113 Times in 101 Posts	you see, subconsiously you fabia vRS drivers wish you had bought a proper(petrol) car and can't get these thoughts out of your head __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

22-10-2005, 11:07	#9
Shifty www.oscarli.com Join Date: May 2005 Location: The home of witty banter™ Posts: 6,104 Thanks: 67 Thanked 132 Times in 73 Posts	As said, just fill it to the brim with good diesel, NO injector cleaner. I would replace the fuel filter though. Petrol is the best injector cleaner there is. Used to put it in my pug hdi (1 gallon in a tank of diesel) when i got it as it was all clogged up and powerless. Worked a treat. Dont know about the PD unit though, although the basics cant be too far removed. __________________ Official 0 to 60 mph - 5.85 seconds. Standing 1/4 mile - 14.3 seconds. 251.5 BHP and 400 lbs/ft of torque. Oh - and 55 mpg on a run Mazda 3 MP3Player, Shifty has no fear of these "white goods" Col G

22-10-2005, 11:23	#10
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,394 Thanks: 19 Thanked 572 Times in 500 Posts	Dont stick petrol in a diesel whatever you do, certianly dont listen to Shifty's advice (sorry mate). Diesel is a heavy oil. The fuel has lubrication properties which is used to lubricate parts of the diesel system such as the injection pump (if fitted) and injectors. Flushing petrol through it cleans off this lubrication and it runs dry. Think of it like draining your oil out of your engine and running it up, it just ends up grinding metal. We have a 2.5 Superb here at the moment which has to have a new pump for this reason, I can think of better ways of spending £2,000 to be honest. However on a Fabia PD you should be ok, worth changing the fuel filter though. __________________ Unit 18 now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

22-10-2005, 00:40	#2
Geese3Geese Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: East Lancs (Home)/ South Yorks (Uni) Posts: 56 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No idea mate, but i've got ulimate sympathy 4 you. What a blag! Geese. Let me know the outcome.

22-10-2005, 00:45	#3
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,405 Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Someone else done it recently and suffered no ill effects just run good diesel in it and hopefully all should be well. Do a search for the recent post.

22-10-2005, 03:08	#5
MikeW Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,496 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Finger's crossed for you mate, i've nearly done exactly the same thing on many occassions.

22-10-2005, 14:09	#11
magnum67 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks guys Guess I'll be off to get a fuel filter and a tank of decent diesel... Doubtful in the extreme that I'll ever forget "unleaded into vRS is a no-no" [ ] but I'm gonna mark the filler cap in some way to make doubly sure... __________________ Member in name only... Oh dear...

22-10-2005, 14:47	#12
Wardy Smokey Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,645 Thanks: 373 Thanked 260 Times in 249 Posts	Think this has come up before - but what about fitting diesel and petrol cars with different shaped fillers? And having the service station pumps with the corresponding shape? Square for petrol, triangular for diesel something like that? Although having never fallen foul of it myself, I imagine it's easily done. If you're thinking of other things at the time, or you drive a variety of cars for example. Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

22-10-2005, 15:00	#13
Gizmo68 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hawkinge Kent Posts: 1,121 Thanks: 12 Thanked 57 Times in 56 Posts	I thought all newer cars were colour coded? i.e. black for diesel, green for unleaded.

22-10-2005, 15:01	#14
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,394 Thanks: 19 Thanked 572 Times in 500 Posts	Would be great wouldnt it. But you would have to get every petrol supplier and every car maker to follow suit and convert all cars currently on the road. __________________ Unit 18 now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

22-10-2005, 15:38	#15
magnum67 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: North West UK Posts: 47 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	On the forecourt I used, the pumps are colour coded. But I'd had a s* day and had swapped to my Furby from my petrol Fiesta and I didn't make the connect... Have to admit bafflement as to why the nozzles and / or fuel fillers aren't different. After all they did it when leaded swapped to unleaded - you couldn't put the leaded nozzle in a car designed for unleaded... Apparently you shouldn't be able to put diesel in a petrol car for the same reason, though I've heard of it happening, so guess some petrol retailers don't especially care if some silly sod [ ] f** up !! __________________ Member in name only... Oh dear...

22-10-2005, 15:53	#19
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,200 Thanks: 60 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	BP ultimate is a kind of dark blue around here, to differentiate it from the ultimate unleaded which is a kinf od light shade of blue. Diesel is usually black and petrol usually green. However if I go somewhere unfamiliar I'll read the nozzle right down to the ISO number or whatever is on them, just to be sure. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

22-10-2005, 16:11	#20
pbirkett Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,873 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm not being funny, but it amazes me how many people do this. Why dont people CHECK to ensure they have the right pump before putting fuel in. When you consider the implications for your car and wallet, I am surprised that people dont think about it before they start putting fuel in the car.

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