vRS brake controller is it...

devonutopia · 24-10-2005, 19:24

... Trying to figure out which brake controller I need.

Basically there are loads of choices all with part number 6Q0 907 375 but with loads of different letters after them

Some say "with ABS" some "TCS and EDL" some (just) "TCS" or "ESP"

TCS - traction control system
EDL = electronic differential lock
ESP = electronic stabilsation program (not the sixth sense

)

So, before I go jumping in headfirst which one is it please?

Lummox · 24-10-2005, 19:26

What did the vRS have that you nicked the wiring loom off?

devonutopia · 24-10-2005, 19:29

Well, if the company would respond to my emails, I might have joy in acquiring that one. I feel like I'm being ignored a bit by them at the moment.

Think a phone call is needed. I know what you mean though Ross. The controller the wiring all came from would be perfect, its just acquiring it could be tricky.

Next thing is airbag controller. Found out from an MOT tester I'll need to get that airbag light out by next March as they must work to get through the MOT.... Never realised that.

Lummox · 24-10-2005, 19:32

IIRC airbag is not part of the MOT you cant fail it on a light being on.

I didnt mean you getting the controller from that car, problem is if for example that wiring loom was for a car with ESP, and your car doesnt have it regardless of which ECU you get there will allways be a miss match.

devonutopia · 24-10-2005, 19:39

How does the ESP work? is something mechanical needed in addition to the loom and brake controller to make it work?

All I know for sure is my car is entirely re-wired with the loom from an '04 vRS

Edit: Good news on airbag front, but I'm going to check. I was told if it has airbags, the light must come on at startup, and go out again a few seconds later. Will check though.

edit2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by google MOT search

There are no checks at all on airbags as part of the MOT Test. MOTT.

Lummox · 24-10-2005, 19:43

Just checked on the MOT regs site, no airbag mentioned.

Also my Astra passed its MOT with the light on due to a faulty pre tensioner. They can advise it but not fail it.

Theres nothing mechanical different for ESp as far as i know, but the wiring looms could well be different.

WW_VRS · 24-10-2005, 20:47

The wiring loom is probably different as there are more sensors IIRC?

andy ellis · 24-10-2005, 21:14

isnt esp standard on the vrs? so you would need an esp controller? sensors?

Lummox · 24-10-2005, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy ellis

isnt esp standard on the vrs?

Nope, optional

Alan M · 24-10-2005, 21:22

Nope, ESP is an option on the vRS.

andy ellis · 24-10-2005, 21:29

ok i'll get me coat.....

devonutopia · 24-10-2005, 22:13

In theory though, whatever the car came with, should work.

Although having said that, the clocks and ECU are from a different car than the wiring looms, so you never know do you. Wish I could pinpoint "ESP" down to something in particular. Was hoping having the same brake controller as the wiring would solve it, and the ECU wouldn't be affected (maybe apart from a little reprogramming)

24-10-2005, 19:24	#1
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,221 Thanks: 60 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	vRS brake controller is it... ... Trying to figure out which brake controller I need. Basically there are loads of choices all with part number 6Q0 907 375 but with loads of different letters after them Some say "with ABS" some "TCS and EDL" some (just) "TCS" or "ESP" TCS - traction control system EDL = electronic differential lock ESP = electronic stabilsation program (not the sixth sense ) So, before I go jumping in headfirst which one is it please? __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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24-10-2005, 19:29	#3
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,221 Thanks: 60 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	Well, if the company would respond to my emails, I might have joy in acquiring that one. I feel like I'm being ignored a bit by them at the moment. Think a phone call is needed. I know what you mean though Ross. The controller the wiring all came from would be perfect, its just acquiring it could be tricky. Next thing is airbag controller. Found out from an MOT tester I'll need to get that airbag light out by next March as they must work to get through the MOT.... Never realised that. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

24-10-2005, 19:32	#4
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,403 Thanks: 19 Thanked 573 Times in 501 Posts	IIRC airbag is not part of the MOT you cant fail it on a light being on. I didnt mean you getting the controller from that car, problem is if for example that wiring loom was for a car with ESP, and your car doesnt have it regardless of which ECU you get there will allways be a miss match. __________________ Unit 18 now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

24-10-2005, 19:43	#6
Lummox Hairy Yeti Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,403 Thanks: 19 Thanked 573 Times in 501 Posts	Just checked on the MOT regs site, no airbag mentioned. Also my Astra passed its MOT with the light on due to a faulty pre tensioner. They can advise it but not fail it. Theres nothing mechanical different for ESp as far as i know, but the wiring looms could well be different. __________________ Unit 18 now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

24-10-2005, 20:47	#7
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,733 Thanks: 44 Thanked 68 Times in 59 Posts	The wiring loom is probably different as there are more sensors IIRC? __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there)

24-10-2005, 21:14	#8
andy ellis Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 1,289 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	isnt esp standard on the vrs? so you would need an esp controller? sensors? __________________ Fabia TDI PD100 "Q" and driving school car. Citroen C4 Coupe 1.6hDi+EGS with disability adaptations.

24-10-2005, 21:22	#10
Alan M Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East UK, Gateshead Posts: 350 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nope, ESP is an option on the vRS. __________________ *Vorsprung DERV Technik*

24-10-2005, 21:29	#11
andy ellis Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 1,289 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	ok i'll get me coat..... __________________ Fabia TDI PD100 "Q" and driving school car. Citroen C4 Coupe 1.6hDi+EGS with disability adaptations.

24-10-2005, 22:13	#12
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,221 Thanks: 60 Thanked 288 Times in 234 Posts	In theory though, whatever the car came with, should work. Although having said that, the clocks and ECU are from a different car than the wiring looms, so you never know do you. Wish I could pinpoint "ESP" down to something in particular. Was hoping having the same brake controller as the wiring would solve it, and the ECU wouldn't be affected (maybe apart from a little reprogramming) __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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