flatfourburble

On my way back to London I had a run in of sorts with a civic type R. And all I will say is I was very pleased with how my standard Furby did against it! 2nd and 3rd there was nothing in it though after 3rd he did start to pull away.

Not bad for a skoda and even better for a DIESEL!!

And yes he was trying taking from the amount of noise coming from his car!

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Jimmy

I had a go at one on the way down to Donny a few weeks ago. A very quick car. From 80mph upwards it was very much neck and neck although when changing into 5th I think I had the edge and would've pulled away but alas roadworks intervened. The look on the guys face was quite good for a laff when I passed him and his pasenger was p1ssing himself laughing aswell....

dsemuk

How much smoke was coming from the Furby

gingerVrs

I have mine remapped and my mate was driving his CTR and I skinned him , he is getting rid of it DIESEL POWER!!!!!! By the way loads of smoke from my furby

flatfourburble

enough! I keep telling her that she is too young to smoke!!

Ok mine isn't stardard 100% as it has a green pannel filter and Cupra TDi intake. Never aless I was very happy at how my wee car faired up against it!

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Chavyboy

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/t1699...-scooby-1.html

I think I shocked him to

Good work though Flatfour we are just showing them Furby's aren't a push over

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Vtec Abuser

Not saying this didn't happen mate. But there is alot and I mean ALOT of badly driven CTR's out there. I've met plenty and i'm embarrassed by them sometimes.
If you do meet one, from which the driver gets 100% from it. I think you'll find it a completely different story mate..

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pbirkett

Whats so hard about driving one of those? All you have to do is rev the knackers off it. It takes more skill to drive the Furby well, IMHO. And he did say it started to pull away, whats so strange about that?

Neo_VR

Ill have to agree on this.. if the driver knew his car, and was trying.. he would destroy a fabia.. and probably be a close match for a chipped octy
altho chances are if a remapped fabia caught a ctr off-cam (quite likely) it wouldnt pass until very high speed - well into 3 figures.

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As above ^^^
I've seen a remapped Fabia RS at running at Pod quite a few times. It was one of the tuning companys demo cars I think, if I remember rightly.
But it didn't manage to get into the 15's. Hardly a CTR slayer really.
What power is yours running mate?

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MonkeyHanger

Admirable honesty there young Colin, and you're more than likely to be correct i would think

pbirkett

Why are people comparing a £12k warm hatch with a £16k hot hatch anyway? Its fairly obvious which one is going to be faster, remapped or not.

Vtec Abuser

Well you can get crap drivers in all makes of cars. But when you've only got a small power band of 6,000 - 8500rpm. Then, you need to make sure the car is always on the boil, if you find yourself in a confrontation, shall we say.
A crap, or even worse, early gear change, can lose seconds for example.
As I said before. I'm not saying it didn't happen, cause it might of done. But I wouldn't judge the comparison of the two cars on that one encounter.

I'm not taking anything away from the Fabia RS by the way. As they are quite a capable car, especailly in tuned form. But I wouldn't say they're in the same league as the CTR/Focus RS/Clio Cup etc etc...

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pbirkett

VTEC, first off I apologise for the "troll" comment, I think I got the wrong end of the stick.

Yeah I agree with you on keeping it on the boil, but that shouldnt be too hard IMO. Its probably just as hard to keep the diesel on the boil IMO, if not harder, because let it fall below 2000 and your screwed completely. Its taken me quite a while to get used to it, and only now can I drive it much faster than I could my old car.

As I said before, its a £12k warm hatch, which even in standard form can give a few more expensive cars a fright, but I concur its not going to be as quick as a CTR, but then I dont think that is the point of the car TBH. I think a lot of people on this forum who buy them dont seem to "get it". I see it more of a grunty grand tourer than a sprinter, but I notice that a lot of people seem to get them and proceed to spend hundreds/thousands into trying to make it something that it isnt. If one wants outright pace, then one of the cars you mention will make a better stab at it.

Nick C

I got a 15.7 / 89mph at Satapod 2 weeks ago in my remapped Furby VRS. Majority of standard CTRs were running low 15s that day into a strong head wind. Agree that once the ctrs are wound up they will pull away quickly from a remapped furby vrs

Nick C

Vtec Abuser

Nice one mate. What colour was yours, it was black or silver if i remember righlty. Wasn't you running against a MG ZR or something along those lines? Or was that another one? I was there that day as well mate. I only managed to get three runs in before I had to get off. And managed to completely ar$e all three starts up and had to settle with a dissapointing 15.1 @ 94 in the end , But it generally run's consistant 14.5-14.8's at around 95-97mph.
Most cars were running slower times and terminals due to the wind also. I know a few of the modded CTR's were running mid 14's though.

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Neo_VR

Mine is runnin 184bhp and 307lb/ft with 312mm brakes and better suspension
is devastating on motorways when chipped, but now mine is the kinda package it should have always been, and the car, including mods still cost less than 12k
i think in fairness my car would give a clio172 (not cup) a very hard time on the twisties and pull away on the straights.. thats the kinda class its in.. and im happy to have it there, its still comfortable, and still gets near 50mpg after a good caining

Ive driven a ctr and it is a biyach to drive fast, theres a finate balance between bouncing off the limiter or changing early and dropping off cam!

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Had a little play with a CTR on "private test track" you know the scenario - slower moving vehicle in lane 3 pulls over leaving tempting stretch ahead - both drivers floor it etc etc.
The CTR was very gradually pulling away eventually as the revs got higher, but not a great deal in it really.
But i've heard with a little tuning work these CTR things are pretty quick.

(edited - of course mines not standard!)

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LloydVRs

My buddy has a CTR, we had a play and in a straight line my octy had the edge low down the rev range then, obviosly, the advantage i gained was eaten up. Up to 120mph in private track conditions i only managed an average of a third of a car length on him from standtill but i would say it was equal all things considerd. When on the boil the CTR goes like stink.

My octy is mapped by the way.

Nick C

Yep i was the silver one running against the MG ZR . Perhaps I would get sub 15.5 without the head wind. I didnt realise it had that much of an effect over a 1/4 of a mile run until i was told by regulars that they were running 0.5 slower than normal. i was running slightly quicker than a standard clio 172 however the Diesel engine isn't the best for standing starts, better for in-gear accelaration which surprises many people, especially BMW drivers on the morortway!

barrie502

" however the Diesel engine isn't the best for standing starts, better for in-gear accelaration which surprises many people, especially BMW drivers on the morortway!"
Thank heavens someone has made the obvious point. The 200bhp (and less than 200pounds torque) Civic will have an edge over a chipped fab vrs from a standing start. However with 300 pounds of torque and over 180bhp for the the Fab the situation is nowhere near as clean cut once moving on the road.
In similar situations to those described above I have twice stayed on the tail of a hard driven ctr's on long overtakes much to the surprise of the drivers.
I do not think for a moment I could live with them on on demanding roads involving hard braking/fast cornering -but a chipped fab against a stock ctr in a midrange sprint - sorry Mr VTtech but you will not get away!

Vtec Abuser

On a stop start overtaking manovere. The CTR won't be leaving a chipped VRS for dead no. But if it is a balls out straight line drag, then it's always going to end in tears for the VRS i'm afraid. Especially as the speeds get higher.

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Chavyboy

Depends in which way you are comparing them !

I have seen a 6.7 to 60 and the car bogged down and started to spin in 1st and 2nd so 0-60 my car IS in the same league as the Clio Cup.

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TaviaRS

I'd probably have a go at a CTR, but not from a standing start. Once rolling, in a straight line, I reckon I could probably keep up. If it was cross country, I reckon mine might be faster.

However as has been pointed out, a lot of it comes down to the driver. Get a decent driver in a CTR and I reckon it will have a Furby or mine. A modded Octy? No, sorry, my old one regularly beat them, I was running in the 13s IIRC at the Pod. Did try one out at the Ring, mine was about 15-20 seconds quicker per lap, so fairly close really.

Must say, I am a big fan of VTEC engines, although I'm not keen on the newer version (I-VTEC???), find that the step from off to on cam isn't as pronounced as it used to be in the either the old CRX VTEC or the ITR. I preferred the older more aggressive switch, guess it is because it mimiced the old big turbo cars I used to drive. You had to think more about your driving to get the most out of it.

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