VRs vs??

Welshy · 31-10-2006, 16:49

Has anyone here challenged a VW Polo G40 yet? Anyone had this scalp?

marcusfordus · 31-10-2006, 18:39

I used to have one of those !
It had a AMD chip fitted to it, at the time in 1993 it was hell of a quick car, faster than a fast thing.
havn't had the pleasure in the vRS, head to head though, the first corner is where you find the brakes on the G40 don't work and the furby goes round the thing.

oliverreed · 31-10-2006, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy

Has anyone here challenged a VW Polo G40 yet? Anyone had this scalp?

Guy at work had one of these, Jabba'd Stage 2 or 3, watched him slaughter a mkII MR2 - doubt a Fabia with light mods could touch it.

oliverreed · 31-10-2006, 23:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welshy

Has anyone here challenged a VW Polo G40 yet? Anyone had this scalp?

Guy at work had one of these, Jabba'd Stage 2 or 3, watched him slaughter a mkII MR2 - doubt a Fabia with light mods could touch it.

bengie · 31-10-2006, 23:05

is there an echo on here?

i've always liked the G40

chris_newell41 · 01-11-2006, 14:50

I don't think mk2 mr2's are fast at all (in a stragith line). may mate has one and it didn't feel at all fast.

My VRS felt faster, but maybe thats the shov in the back for you ?

I've seen these g40 things, what engine do they have? outputs?

they look pretty standard but maybe I've only seen ch4v ones with the badge stuck on and a 1.0 under the bonnet.

Welshy · 01-11-2006, 15:02

G40 is a 1.3ltr super charged they produce 115bhp and 113lbf.

Doesnt sound much but at the time they set the world record for 24 hours top speed runs averaging 135mph - std cars.

This is also a very lightweight car, this destroyed the RS1800, XR2i, RS Turbo, GTI 16V and would very nearly beat the R5 GT Turbo - this is praise indeed.

marcusfordus · 01-11-2006, 17:44

Mine was 142bhp after the chip. No weight and big power sure was fun.
Pre speed scamera days, I did the A66 from one end to the other at 120mph, up against a fella in a big Merc, it took till traffic holdups at Doncaster before he got past me on the inside on the A1.
Build quality was crap, almost as bad as the brakes !!!

Mr Grumpy · 01-11-2006, 18:15

Yes and yes.
I was being stupid and he wasn't .

Snoopie · 01-11-2006, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_newell41

I don't think mk2 mr2's are fast at all (in a stragith line). may mate has one and it didn't feel at all fast.

My VRS felt faster, but maybe thats the shov in the back for you ?

It must be the 'shove' in the back then. I can assure you, a MK2 MR2 Is quicker than the car you're driving. On the corners, on a straight etc.

oskah · 01-11-2006, 22:25

My mate has just sold his recently. Had a load of stuff done on it by Jabba. Cant list everything but flowed head plus new pistons. Chargecooler and a smaller pully for the charger. it was putting out 195bhp at dubsports rollers so say in reality about 175 to 180bhp. it was fast as fu*k but an absolute pig to drive on a wet (or damp) road and was a bit scary on a dry road. All the brakes and suspension had been uprated but it was still a bit shy on the bends :0

oskah · 01-11-2006, 22:29

oh and it left my one clicked Ibiza 130tdi for dead on the A55 on the way back from the rolling road much to my dissmay

S41NT · 01-11-2006, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcusfordus

up against a fella in a big Merc, it took till traffic holdups at Doncaster before he got past me on the inside on the A1.

There's alway's a few homo's in a merc's or beamer's who just can't take it eh? So they have to cheat to get by.........

Snoopie · 02-11-2006, 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by oskah

oh and it left my one clicked Ibiza 130tdi for dead on the A55 on the way back from the rolling road much to my dissmay

You couldn't of been trying...

OldFlo · 02-11-2006, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by S41NT

There's alway's a few homo's in a merc's or beamer's who just can't take it eh? So they have to cheat to get by.........

Slightly off thread, but a guy in a merc E55 AMG cut me up at a roundabout, I glared, said something like "idiot" & carried on, whereupon he cut me up again on the exit of the roundabout, stopped in front of me, got out, came over & tried to get me out of the car. When he couldn't he kicked my car. He looked 55-60 years old.

You'd think he'd know better really, wouldn't you?

Anyway, Criminal Damage with Intent charges will be brought, and if you see an Mercedes AMG E55 (new shape) reg 900 CFJ, keep well away. He's an idiot who won't think twice about trying to start a ruck in the rush hour, on a busy roundabout, with plenty of witnesses and security cameras.

**TaviaRS** · 02-11-2006, 10:43

I had a play with one (the Polo).

It lost

Had a chat with the guy at a petrol station who was amazed that my 1.4 16v had given him a kicking

Yes, he did see the funny side of it

ScoobyChris · 02-11-2006, 11:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

Had a chat with the guy at a petrol station who was amazed that my 1.4 16v had given him a kicking

Lucky you didn't show him up in your SDI

Chris

SteVRs · 02-11-2006, 12:20

On the topic of Supercharged VW's - do they do a kit for the VR6 engines?

I had a play with one (obviously he won) but what surprised me was the rate he took off and the noise it made - defo not naturally aspirated.

ScoobyChris · 02-11-2006, 12:22

Google turned up VF-Engineering - Supercharger systems for Porsche, BMW, and Volkswagen

So I'm guessing some of the English tuners will also be getting similar figures....

Chris

schrickvr6 · 02-11-2006, 21:26

I had a vortech vs2q charger to go on my golf vr6, never got around to fitting it tho as the car was quick enough and was offered a very good price for it.

I miss my golf already

Anyways it's about £2400 for an off the shelf ready to fit charger, or you can piece bit's together from the states for about £1300, which will give you up to 250-270bhp on standard internals using a 6-8 psi pulley, 12psi pulley upwards an intercooler and forged low comp pistons would be an idea, higher flow injectors are also needed..... But once that's done you may as well go 14-16psi for around 350bhp...after that it's turbo time with 500-600bhp+ 'quite easily' achievable

OldFlo · 03-11-2006, 12:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by schrickvr6

...after that it's turbo time with 500-600bhp+ 'quite easily' achievable

Really?? Yikes. That would be one hell of a Q-car (as long as it didn't blow up / shred tyres / laminate you to the seat when trying to use the power)

Timo · 03-11-2006, 13:08

Tried to play with a old looking mk2 golf a few months ago, when it blew me away, and we could still hear it from the end of the road, worked out that it had a VR6 lump. I was 4 up, with a bigger car that was my excuse. Desperately needing the money for a remap.

ScoobyChris · 03-11-2006, 13:16

I had a play with an old Mk2 yesterday! Looked pretty smart (aside from the clear rear light clusters) and had been lowered, tasteful spoilers, bigger wheels and a bigger exhaust. Next thing I know, we reach a clear stretch of dual carriageway and I hear the thing being opened up but the speed is only creeping up at a pedestrian rate.

I guess it was a small-engined look-a-like then!

Chris

OldFlo · 03-11-2006, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

I had a play with an old Mk2 yesterday! Looked pretty smart (aside from the clear rear light clusters) and had been lowered, tasteful spoilers, bigger wheels and a bigger exhaust. Next thing I know, we reach a clear stretch of dual carriageway and I hear the thing being opened up but the speed is only creeping up at a pedestrian rate.

I guess it was a small-engined look-a-like then!

Chris

This is why I love the Q-car philosphy. Better to be subtle & quick than to shout about performance which you do not, in fact, have.

It's why I got the Furby...

31-10-2006, 16:49	#1
Welshy Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,166 Members Car: Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	VRs vs?? Has anyone here challenged a VW Polo G40 yet? Anyone had this scalp?

31-10-2006, 18:39	#2
marcusfordus Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ashfield, Notts Posts: 157 Members Car: Red Fabia vRS, Triumph 955i Daytona Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: VRs vs?? I used to have one of those ! It had a AMD chip fitted to it, at the time in 1993 it was hell of a quick car, faster than a fast thing. havn't had the pleasure in the vRS, head to head though, the first corner is where you find the brakes on the G40 don't work and the furby goes round the thing.

31-10-2006, 23:05	#5
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,425 Members Car: 4x4 turbo estate Thanks: 18 Thanked 152 Times in 133 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? is there an echo on here? i've always liked the G40 __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

01-11-2006, 14:50	#6
chris_newell41 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,524 Members Car: 2006 Fabia VRS Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? I don't think mk2 mr2's are fast at all (in a stragith line). may mate has one and it didn't feel at all fast. My VRS felt faster, but maybe thats the shov in the back for you ? I've seen these g40 things, what engine do they have? outputs? they look pretty standard but maybe I've only seen ch4v ones with the badge stuck on and a 1.0 under the bonnet. __________________ Fabia Vrs Blackmagic! Xenons, Cruise Control, Heated Seats and ESP Wednesday 12th may 2006 was my VRS day Last edited by chris_newell41; 01-11-2006 at 14:52.

01-11-2006, 15:02	#7
Welshy Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,166 Members Car: Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? G40 is a 1.3ltr super charged they produce 115bhp and 113lbf. Doesnt sound much but at the time they set the world record for 24 hours top speed runs averaging 135mph - std cars. This is also a very lightweight car, this destroyed the RS1800, XR2i, RS Turbo, GTI 16V and would very nearly beat the R5 GT Turbo - this is praise indeed.

01-11-2006, 17:44	#8
marcusfordus Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ashfield, Notts Posts: 157 Members Car: Red Fabia vRS, Triumph 955i Daytona Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: VRs vs?? Mine was 142bhp after the chip. No weight and big power sure was fun. Pre speed scamera days, I did the A66 from one end to the other at 120mph, up against a fella in a big Merc, it took till traffic holdups at Doncaster before he got past me on the inside on the A1. Build quality was crap, almost as bad as the brakes !!!

01-11-2006, 18:15	#9
Mr Grumpy Not so Grumpy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: He's behind you.. Posts: 4,753 Members Car: Super Skip Thanks: 8 Thanked 165 Times in 101 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? Yes and yes. I was being stupid and he wasn't . __________________ Ho feckin' Ho, S50 vRS has to go, for baby Jesus' sake, somebody buy it... Lovely MX5 for sale as well.....go on, treat yourself.

01-11-2006, 22:25	#11
oskah Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: N wales Posts: 98 Members Car: Mazda6 sport 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? My mate has just sold his recently. Had a load of stuff done on it by Jabba. Cant list everything but flowed head plus new pistons. Chargecooler and a smaller pully for the charger. it was putting out 195bhp at dubsports rollers so say in reality about 175 to 180bhp. it was fast as fu*k but an absolute pig to drive on a wet (or damp) road and was a bit scary on a dry road. All the brakes and suspension had been uprated but it was still a bit shy on the bends :0 __________________ Seat Leon 110TDI Fabia vrs black magic

01-11-2006, 22:29	#12
oskah Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: N wales Posts: 98 Members Car: Mazda6 sport 136 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? oh and it left my one clicked Ibiza 130tdi for dead on the A55 on the way back from the rolling road much to my dissmay __________________ Seat Leon 110TDI Fabia vrs black magic

02-11-2006, 10:43	#16
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,940 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 43 Times in 39 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? I had a play with one (the Polo). It lost Had a chat with the guy at a petrol station who was amazed that my 1.4 16v had given him a kicking Yes, he did see the funny side of it __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

02-11-2006, 12:20	#18
SteVRs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 3,065 Members Car: Smart Roadster Coupe Brabus Thanks: 4 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? On the topic of Supercharged VW's - do they do a kit for the VR6 engines? I had a play with one (obviously he won) but what surprised me was the rate he took off and the noise it made - defo not naturally aspirated.

02-11-2006, 12:22	#19
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,265 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 16 Thanked 352 Times in 303 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? Google turned up VF-Engineering - Supercharger systems for Porsche, BMW, and Volkswagen So I'm guessing some of the English tuners will also be getting similar figures.... Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

02-11-2006, 21:26	#20
schrickvr6 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Newport Posts: 400 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? I had a vortech vs2q charger to go on my golf vr6, never got around to fitting it tho as the car was quick enough and was offered a very good price for it. I miss my golf already Anyways it's about £2400 for an off the shelf ready to fit charger, or you can piece bit's together from the states for about £1300, which will give you up to 250-270bhp on standard internals using a 6-8 psi pulley, 12psi pulley upwards an intercooler and forged low comp pistons would be an idea, higher flow injectors are also needed..... But once that's done you may as well go 14-16psi for around 350bhp...after that it's turbo time with 500-600bhp+ 'quite easily' achievable

03-11-2006, 13:08	#22
Timo Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Miles from where I want to be. Posts: 397 Members Car: Octy VRS Tdi Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? Tried to play with a old looking mk2 golf a few months ago, when it blew me away, and we could still hear it from the end of the road, worked out that it had a VR6 lump. I was 4 up, with a bigger car that was my excuse. Desperately needing the money for a remap.

03-11-2006, 13:16	#23
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,265 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 16 Thanked 352 Times in 303 Posts	Re: VRs vs?? I had a play with an old Mk2 yesterday! Looked pretty smart (aside from the clear rear light clusters) and had been lowered, tasteful spoilers, bigger wheels and a bigger exhaust. Next thing I know, we reach a clear stretch of dual carriageway and I hear the thing being opened up but the speed is only creeping up at a pedestrian rate. I guess it was a small-engined look-a-like then! Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

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