What Happened in 2004 to the VRS?

reflex88 · 23-09-2008, 15:43

Hi.

I've bought a 04 plate vrs.

Which version/model year is it likely to be because it has things other 04's don't (it was actually a 04 demonstrator).

I ask because it doesn't have any seat belt warning lights or bleeps. It does have a 3 point rear-centre belt and has the shorter "fabia" length vrs badge on the back.

I ask because I'm intrigued to know it this means it has the revised ecu and box I've read about on the forums? Is there a list of 04 revisions anywhere cuz I can only find lists for 54/05 and 06/56.

Thanks
Rob :-)

**mannyo** · 23-09-2008, 16:08

You may find you car, being a demo had some extras fitted. The seatbelt warning and light are easily disabled by disconnecting a wire under the seat. If you look under the seat you maybe able to see where they have been disconnected. Reconnecting them should bring the seatbelt warning back.

Skodaboy1983 · 23-09-2008, 16:11

Thanks for that, I'm going to look under the seat to see if my seatbelt warning light has not been reconnected, I would presume this will be the same for a 05 plate fabia?

**mannyo** · 23-09-2008, 16:15

yep, should be the same. If you have airbags in the seats, make sure the ignition is off.

ultra_joel88 · 23-09-2008, 16:15

My June 04 has no seatbelt warning light either

**mannyo** · 23-09-2008, 16:17

I wonder then, I know the octy vrshad the warning from launch in 2001. It would seem odd that the fabia didnt have it from launch (or dit it have it before it was discontinued)

IainsTheName · 23-09-2008, 16:26

No seat belt warning light for me either

reflex88 · 23-09-2008, 16:43

It's not so much the warning light that I'm interested in, was just using that as an example as I read this was indeed dropped at some point (before the 05 revisions i think though) but more anything different I can't see?

As for it being a demonstrator... I can't see that being the explanation for the later vrs badge cuz surely they didn't exsist before they were the norm? Couldn't have been a option, surely?

Was the 3rd 3 point belt an option all along then up until 2005?

What I'm more interested in is if this is one of the 2004 revised VRS's I've heard mentioned every so often, a pre facelift set of revisions?.. or maybe someone can confirm these didn't happen?

Either way, thanks for the comments!

Rob

jasc1988 · 23-09-2008, 16:45

May 04 reg with

Newer Ratios
Newer Badge
3 point seatbelt in rear
Seat belt warning light and tone

Older dash
Older Lights
Older ASR logo

reflex88 · 23-09-2008, 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasc1988

May 04 reg with

Newer Ratios
Newer Badge
3 point seatbelt in rear
Seat belt warning light and tone

Older dash
Older Lights
Older ASR logo

That's what I'm after.. huge thanks bud!

faboka vrs · 23-09-2008, 16:46

I thought my warning light was broken as its stopped warning me. Mines an 04 plate. I'm convinced it did do it in the past but I could be wrong.

jasc1988 · 23-09-2008, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by reflex88

That's what I'm after.. huge thanks bud!

Most are Just Part Bin Specials lol...

There all minute details anyway, i never even knew there were 2 phases before joining here - lol

reflex88 · 23-09-2008, 17:02

True, but just wanted to know if the 04 revisions did exist because, if they didn't.. the newer badge and younger back seat could have meant something more sinister like vandalism or accident damage,..

Ans also, after reading about better ratio boxes for better motorway driving.. I was just intrigued.

So, that settles that then.. It must be the 04 revisions. I looked on google image search though... allot of 04 cars have the Octavia's older VRS badge from before the lil Fabia got it's own!.. must have been older stock.

I guessed that with mine being black and a demonstrator (though, it was never actually demonstrated apparently, was bought before it ever went out).. it would have been up to date when it arrived!

I'd love to know how old some of the later yellow ones really are!.. Not saying it's a bad colour, but must have been the slowest selling!

Thanks
Rob :-D

ultra_joel88 · 23-09-2008, 17:17

Mine was the same

June 04 Reg

Older dash
older lights
middle lap belt

shorter rear badge
rear door pins
different gear ratios

reflex88 · 23-09-2008, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ultra_joel88

Mine was the same

June 04 Reg

Older dash
older lights
middle lap belt

shorter rear badge
rear door pins
different gear ratios

So You've got a lap belt, not a 3 pointer.. but new badge & box?

Sounds like they made a few changes as and when the stock was re orderd then.. which I guess is normal.

P.S. I like ya wheels ;-) Just read the thread (and also, that VR6 with the VW Vento nose looked sweet)

ultra_joel88 · 23-09-2008, 22:54

I think changes started to trickle through May-July 2004 so cars built in this period are "half facelifted" so to speak

steve75 · 24-09-2008, 07:24

Can someone show me examples of a preface lift and a face lifted car? i'm confused......

Mine is an 04 - no seatbelt warning - short vRS badge - 3 point rear belt.

Whats different about the dash in a facelift version, and are there any other visible signs that one is a facelift model? all the ones i have seen have looked like mine (with or without the optional extras such as xenons)

Conshine · 24-09-2008, 11:10

Mines an 04/54reg (ordered in september) and I have:

new lights
shorter badge
3 point rear belt
gear ratios
no rear door pins

No seat belt warning
old dash

Not sure about the ASR logo as I wouldn't know what the old one was like to compare.

Conshine · 24-09-2008, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve75

Can someone show me examples of a preface lift and a face lifted car? i'm confused......

Mine is an 04 - no seatbelt warning - short vRS badge - 3 point rear belt.

Whats different about the dash in a facelift version, and are there any other visible signs that one is a facelift model? all the ones i have seen have looked like mine (with or without the optional extras such as xenons)

I think the dash has a different appearance up near the front window area.

The early vRS's had a different rear light cluster too.

steve75 · 24-09-2008, 11:24

This is my rear end.... are they new or old lights?

**EDIT: It's ok, just looked around at some pics on pistonheads, looks like mine are the old style lights then. I never noticed the difference before, i always thought when people spoke about the new lights they meant they'd put lights from the fabia 2 on somehow......

UWO · 24-09-2008, 13:18

Those are the old ones, I have an 06 and it has different rear lights.

reflex88 · 24-09-2008, 17:04

Yeah, the back lights got updated in 2005 as part of the facelift across the range. instead of 2 lil white blobs it became a nice sharp sideways white V for the reverse & caters!!

I'm hoping (when funds allow.. a lil broke having only just bought the thing).. to get some as I prefer them! I know it's only a lil change but they do just look a little fresher!

The rear lights were a definate 05 thing though.. the 3 point belt, short badge, disabled front belt warning and updated box seem to have slipped out between 04 and 05.

Is it easy to work out whta box is on my Fabia?

Thanks
Rob.

Johnny50 · 24-09-2008, 17:07

The front grille is also different on the early cars..

Newer ones have the vertical bars tapering in at an agle, where the old ones go straight back (if that makes sense)

sleithykeithy · 24-09-2008, 17:20

My vRS is a November 04/54 plate

Its got the newer style grille, short badge, new rear lights, 3 point belt, uprated box (i presume), no rear door pins, and the old untextured dash. It doesnt have the seatbelt warning though.

Whats the difference between this ASR light?

jasc1988 · 24-09-2008, 17:28

Old Asr light is a warning triangle, new one is a skidding car.

TBH all the changes are so minute lol

23-09-2008, 15:43	#1
reflex88 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 268 Members Car: 2004 Black Fab vRS Thanks: 23 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Hi. I've bought a 04 plate vrs. Which version/model year is it likely to be because it has things other 04's don't (it was actually a 04 demonstrator). I ask because it doesn't have any seat belt warning lights or bleeps. It does have a 3 point rear-centre belt and has the shorter "fabia" length vrs badge on the back. I ask because I'm intrigued to know it this means it has the revised ecu and box I've read about on the forums? Is there a list of 04 revisions anywhere cuz I can only find lists for 54/05 and 06/56. Thanks Rob :-)

23-09-2008, 16:08	#2
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,627 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 60 Thanked 393 Times in 362 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? You may find you car, being a demo had some extras fitted. The seatbelt warning and light are easily disabled by disconnecting a wire under the seat. If you look under the seat you maybe able to see where they have been disconnected. Reconnecting them should bring the seatbelt warning back. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

23-09-2008, 16:11	#3
Skodaboy1983 Skoda Junkie! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: East Lothian Posts: 10,453 Members Car: Skoda Fabia VRS 130 Images: 4 Thanks: 454 Thanked 290 Times in 281 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Thanks for that, I'm going to look under the seat to see if my seatbelt warning light has not been reconnected, I would presume this will be the same for a 05 plate fabia? __________________ 05 Lemon Yellow Fabia vRS, PD160, Green cotton filter, Stripes and B pilar Graphics, Cupra Splitter, Aero Wipers, Rear Number plate surround, silvertec indicators, and led side lights, Forge Strut Brace, Black vRS Alloys, Whiteline ARB!! Soon to come: A wee nip and tuck, fresh look

23-09-2008, 16:15	#4
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,627 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 60 Thanked 393 Times in 362 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? yep, should be the same. If you have airbags in the seats, make sure the ignition is off. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

23-09-2008, 16:15	#5
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,670 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 28 Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? My June 04 has no seatbelt warning light either __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Swoosh Gauges, Window Tints

23-09-2008, 16:17	#6
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,627 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 60 Thanked 393 Times in 362 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? I wonder then, I know the octy vrshad the warning from launch in 2001. It would seem odd that the fabia didnt have it from launch (or dit it have it before it was discontinued) __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

23-09-2008, 16:26	#7
IainsTheName Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newcastle Posts: 296 Members Car: 56 Reg Fabia vRS 1.9 Tdi Thanks: 112 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? No seat belt warning light for me either

23-09-2008, 16:43	#8
reflex88 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 268 Members Car: 2004 Black Fab vRS Thanks: 23 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? It's not so much the warning light that I'm interested in, was just using that as an example as I read this was indeed dropped at some point (before the 05 revisions i think though) but more anything different I can't see? As for it being a demonstrator... I can't see that being the explanation for the later vrs badge cuz surely they didn't exsist before they were the norm? Couldn't have been a option, surely? Was the 3rd 3 point belt an option all along then up until 2005? What I'm more interested in is if this is one of the 2004 revised VRS's I've heard mentioned every so often, a pre facelift set of revisions?.. or maybe someone can confirm these didn't happen? Either way, thanks for the comments! Rob

23-09-2008, 16:45	#9
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,042 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 106 Thanked 136 Times in 131 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? May 04 reg with Newer Ratios Newer Badge 3 point seatbelt in rear Seat belt warning light and tone Older dash Older Lights Older ASR logo __________________ Star Remap, BMC, Helix, 312's, Magnex, Vibratechniks mount, Allard Power Pipe, VMaxx Coilies, CCV mod, Pikey Short Shifter, Stainless Boost pipes, Pikey arch mod, HID's, 17's, Heated Seats, Cruise + many more

23-09-2008, 16:46	#11
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 6,089 Members Car: 2004 Fabia vRS TDI PD130 Thanks: 21 Thanked 50 Times in 50 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? I thought my warning light was broken as its stopped warning me. Mines an 04 plate. I'm convinced it did do it in the past but I could be wrong. __________________ John His Slow Black Diesel Powered Hatchback Hers Full Fat HotHatch with Cup suspension and spolier kit

23-09-2008, 17:02	#13
reflex88 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 268 Members Car: 2004 Black Fab vRS Thanks: 23 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? True, but just wanted to know if the 04 revisions did exist because, if they didn't.. the newer badge and younger back seat could have meant something more sinister like vandalism or accident damage,.. Ans also, after reading about better ratio boxes for better motorway driving.. I was just intrigued. So, that settles that then.. It must be the 04 revisions. I looked on google image search though... allot of 04 cars have the Octavia's older VRS badge from before the lil Fabia got it's own!.. must have been older stock. I guessed that with mine being black and a demonstrator (though, it was never actually demonstrated apparently, was bought before it ever went out).. it would have been up to date when it arrived! I'd love to know how old some of the later yellow ones really are!.. Not saying it's a bad colour, but must have been the slowest selling! Thanks Rob :-D

23-09-2008, 17:17	#14
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,670 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 28 Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Mine was the same June 04 Reg Older dash older lights middle lap belt shorter rear badge rear door pins different gear ratios __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Swoosh Gauges, Window Tints

23-09-2008, 22:54	#16
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 2,670 Members Car: 04 Fabia vRS (180/300) Thanks: 28 Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? I think changes started to trickle through May-July 2004 so cars built in this period are "half facelifted" so to speak __________________ '04 Fabia VRS - P-Torque STG1, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, Custom exhaust system w/ de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can, Swoosh Gauges, Window Tints

24-09-2008, 07:24	#17
steve75 Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 122 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 44 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Can someone show me examples of a preface lift and a face lifted car? i'm confused...... Mine is an 04 - no seatbelt warning - short vRS badge - 3 point rear belt. Whats different about the dash in a facelift version, and are there any other visible signs that one is a facelift model? all the ones i have seen have looked like mine (with or without the optional extras such as xenons) __________________ 04 Black Magic Fabia vRS - Xenons, sun roof & cruise control. Last edited by steve75; 24-09-2008 at 07:30.

24-09-2008, 11:10	#18
Conshine Ho Ho Ho Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ashford, Kent Posts: 1,950 Members Car: Silver Fabia vRS Thanks: 104 Thanked 59 Times in 59 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Mines an 04/54reg (ordered in september) and I have: new lights shorter badge 3 point rear belt gear ratios no rear door pins No seat belt warning old dash Not sure about the ASR logo as I wouldn't know what the old one was like to compare. __________________ Ben

24-09-2008, 11:24	#20
steve75 Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 122 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 44 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? This is my rear end.... are they new or old lights? EDIT: It's ok, just looked around at some pics on pistonheads, looks like mine are the old style lights then. I never noticed the difference before, i always thought when people spoke about the new lights they meant they'd put lights from the fabia 2 on somehow...... __________________ 04 Black Magic Fabia v*RS - Xenons, sun roof & cruise control. Last edited by steve75; 24-09-2008 at 11:34.*

24-09-2008, 13:18	#21
UWO Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Slovenia Posts: 146 Members Car: Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Those are the old ones, I have an 06 and it has different rear lights.

24-09-2008, 17:04	#22
reflex88 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 268 Members Car: 2004 Black Fab vRS Thanks: 23 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Yeah, the back lights got updated in 2005 as part of the facelift across the range. instead of 2 lil white blobs it became a nice sharp sideways white V for the reverse & caters!! I'm hoping (when funds allow.. a lil broke having only just bought the thing).. to get some as I prefer them! I know it's only a lil change but they do just look a little fresher! The rear lights were a definate 05 thing though.. the 3 point belt, short badge, disabled front belt warning and updated box seem to have slipped out between 04 and 05. Is it easy to work out whta box is on my Fabia? Thanks Rob.

24-09-2008, 17:07	#23
Johnny50 Left Briskoda Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,581 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 269 Thanked 180 Times in 176 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? The front grille is also different on the early cars.. Newer ones have the vertical bars tapering in at an agle, where the old ones go straight back (if that makes sense)

24-09-2008, 17:20	#24
sleithykeithy Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 112 Members Car: Fabia Vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? My vRS is a November 04/54 plate Its got the newer style grille, short badge, new rear lights, 3 point belt, uprated box (i presume), no rear door pins, and the old untextured dash. It doesnt have the seatbelt warning though. Whats the difference between this ASR light? Last edited by sleithykeithy; 24-09-2008 at 17:26.

24-09-2008, 17:28	#25
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,042 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 106 Thanked 136 Times in 131 Posts	Re: What Happened in 2004 to the VRS? Old Asr light is a warning triangle, new one is a skidding car. TBH all the changes are so minute lol __________________ Star Remap, BMC, Helix, 312's, Magnex, Vibratechniks mount, Allard Power Pipe, VMaxx Coilies, CCV mod, Pikey Short Shifter, Stainless Boost pipes, Pikey arch mod, HID's, 17's, Heated Seats, Cruise + many more

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