What is under the fabia boot floor?

devonutopia · 03-02-2007, 12:42

Thinking in particular of the left hand side of the boot, to the left of the spare wheel. I know the rear left wheel arch/suspension mounting must be close to that area.

It's just I'm thinking it would be quite cool if I could somehow make a recess big enough for a battery?

TeflonTom · 03-02-2007, 12:47

i doubt if there's enough space in there for a battery mate.... spare wheel recess is the best bet i'd say

devonutopia · 03-02-2007, 13:00

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Originally Posted by TeflonTom

i doubt if there's enough space in there for a battery mate.... spare wheel recess is the best bet i'd say

I can this heading toward a false floor build now....

TeflonTom · 03-02-2007, 13:10

you dont necessarily haveto use 'car' batteries.... you could go for an array of smaller batteries in parallel..... and these would be much easier to hide

devonutopia · 03-02-2007, 13:37

Well, to be honest, hiding is not an issue. It's just the practicality of having parts of my engine bay in the boot, along with the propane/NOS, and still trying to use it as a boot (as much as is possible....)

Lummox · 03-02-2007, 19:51

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Originally Posted by devonutopia

Thinking in particular of the left hand side of the boot, to the left of the spare wheel. I know the rear left wheel arch/suspension mounting must be close to that area.

Err the exhaust.

devonutopia · 03-02-2007, 20:05

[thinking a bit]

Ooops.

Tom_vRS · 03-02-2007, 20:09

Do you really want a battery so close to NOS and LPG?

devonutopia · 03-02-2007, 20:13

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Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

Do you really want a battery so close to NOS and LPG?

lpg is irrelevant, as it's a really solid tank (you can jump on it, hit it with a hammer - will not budge) NOS might be a different issue but I believe a battery, inside a sealed battery box will not cause electrical/fire risks to anything in its proximity.

Lummox · 03-02-2007, 20:20

Nos isnt dangerous, its nitrogen and oxygen.

Tom_vRS · 03-02-2007, 20:24

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Originally Posted by M-03

Nos isnt dangerous, its nitrogen and oxygen.

But mixed with LPG thats a VERY different kettle of fish.

anonymouse · 03-02-2007, 20:30

Perhaps Jason's a budding terrorist.

Lummox · 03-02-2007, 20:32

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Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

But mixed with LPG thats a VERY different kettle of fish.

But like he said the LPG is in a very secure tank.

ag.morley · 03-02-2007, 21:26

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Originally Posted by TeflonTom

you dont necessarily haveto use 'car' batteries.... you could go for an array of smaller batteries in parallel..... and these would be much easier to hide

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............Wonder how many triple 'A's you'd need..

devonutopia · 03-02-2007, 21:43

LPG is in a secure tank as Mr M-03 says, and even if the valve in the tank started to leak, there is a cap on top of it which seals the tank from the inside of the car and the lpg would merely vent through the hole in the boot floor and to atmos.

There's no risk of me creating a mongrel TNT ok.

maxcars1 · 03-02-2007, 23:15

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Originally Posted by devonutopia

Well, to be honest, hiding is not an issue. It's just the practicality and still trying to use it as a boot (as much as is possible....)

I think you lost the practicality of your mongeral now Jason - all that hardware going into the boot mate might as well be a 2+2

Glider · 03-02-2007, 23:43

What about the battery in a nice box where the SMIC should be, especially is you get one of those small racing type batterys, access through a flap in the wheel arch ?

devonutopia · 04-02-2007, 00:04

Well, the ultimate aim is weight re-distribution, not simply getting it out from where it is now.

I could probably make the room needed by moving the battery through 90 degrees and leaving where it is, or pushing it further back toward the bulkhead - but it is boot bound.

WW_VRS · 04-02-2007, 00:58

No risk

- that's pushing it a little hehehe

Alternative to false floor, you could do the split horizontally instead with the batteries say on the left hand side of the boot and the NOS bottle on top?

I should be asleep right now as getting up in 3 hours

but something that looks roughly like two shoe-boxes on top of each other, like a square figure 8

Batteries in bottom, NOS on top, metal construction (perhaps you can do a simpler one and just have the bottom box with detachable plate.

That way you'd loose a little space on one side but more height, rather than loosing height throughout.

devonutopia · 04-02-2007, 09:31

I think you're on to something there Mr W.

Although it would mean having to move the NOS out the way to access the battery terminals, unless I can raise it up above the battery box a bit? Food for thought.

Basil · 04-02-2007, 09:36

Um, with a front-wheel drive don't you want the weight to be over the drive wheels to help the LSD put the power down?

Or is it a case of 'too much of good thing' ?

Cheers
Bas

devonutopia · 04-02-2007, 10:08

Yes - way too much.

The weight of the engine is enough for the front end, so need a little over the back for general handling improvement. Especially as I tend to run with no backseats in....

Basil · 04-02-2007, 14:52

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Originally Posted by devonutopia

Yes - way too much.

The weight of the engine is enough for the front end, so need a little over the back for general handling improvement. Especially as I tend to run with no backseats in....

If that's the case, then you've applied yourself with your usual intensity.

Move non-essentials out (rear seats)
Move relocatable back (Battery, NOS, LPG, girlfriend, etc)
Lighten anything that can be - Carbon Fibre bonnet

You could always lose the Aircon if you don't need it, but with global warming it's not advisable! If you do an internet search there's a US company that makes an aircon that runs on 12VDC for cars and works pretty good, in a light package. Put that in the back when the weather dictates.

How much does an aircon compressor, plumbing, etc etc weight?

Cheers

Bas

Snoopie · 04-02-2007, 15:49

Removing the air-con I always thought would be alot of hassle. Because of the belts that run it aswell etc. I think the air-con weighs about 25kg for the whole fitment.

devonutopia · 04-02-2007, 17:10

air con pump weighs a LOT. I sold one on Ebay recently and the price to post it was loads. Not sure on how it's driven. I assume it's belt driven, but I don't think it's cambelt driven. Unsure how it works to be honest.

I have no aircon now anyway, so don't really mind if it went. That is a lot of weight to get off the front end for sure.

03-02-2007, 12:42	#1
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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: What is under the fabia boot floor? Well, to be honest, hiding is not an issue. It's just the practicality of having parts of my engine bay in the boot, along with the propane/NOS, and still trying to use it as a boot (as much as is possible....) __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: What is under the fabia boot floor? LPG is in a secure tank as Mr M-03 says, and even if the valve in the tank started to leak, there is a cap on top of it which seals the tank from the inside of the car and the lpg would merely vent through the hole in the boot floor and to atmos. There's no risk of me creating a mongrel TNT ok. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: What is under the fabia boot floor? Well, the ultimate aim is weight re-distribution, not simply getting it out from where it is now. I could probably make the room needed by moving the battery through 90 degrees and leaving where it is, or pushing it further back toward the bulkhead - but it is boot bound. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: What is under the fabia boot floor? I think you're on to something there Mr W. Although it would mean having to move the NOS out the way to access the battery terminals, unless I can raise it up above the battery box a bit? Food for thought. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: What is under the fabia boot floor? Yes - way too much. The weight of the engine is enough for the front end, so need a little over the back for general handling improvement. Especially as I tend to run with no backseats in.... __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: What is under the fabia boot floor? air con pump weighs a LOT. I sold one on Ebay recently and the price to post it was loads. Not sure on how it's driven. I assume it's belt driven, but I don't think it's cambelt driven. Unsure how it works to be honest. I have no aircon now anyway, so don't really mind if it went. That is a lot of weight to get off the front end for sure. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!