Whats the difference?

BlackFR · 02-01-2005, 13:52

http://www.skoda.co.uk/skoda3g/conte...a/pricing.aspx

shows:
vRS 1.9TDI PD 130bhp 146 A £12227 £12380
vRS 1.9TDI PD 146 A £12097 £12250

so whats the difference between the two and what do you get for the extra 130 quid??

Turbostream · 02-01-2005, 14:07

I had a look at that and was wondering?

devonutopia · 02-01-2005, 14:17

The cheaper one must come without an engine, as its got no horsepower at all!

***DGW*** · 02-01-2005, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedLeon

So whats the difference between the two and what do you get for the extra 130 quid??

130bhp. Do I get a prize?

gingerVrs · 02-01-2005, 19:56

Bloody hell £1 per horse power that is very cheap indeed :-)

BlackFR · 02-01-2005, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

130bhp. Do I get a prize?

so I take it no one knows then!

skodaTDI · 03-01-2005, 14:13

Hmm, I think that the list is mis-typed. It should read:-

vRS 1.9TDI PD 130bhp
vRS 1.9TDI 130bhp

Elsewhere on the website one lists as being PD engine and the other not. If that is true I would imagine that the non-PD engine is slightly less fuel-effecient or slightly less torquey, however, from the tech information supplied on the site and vRS microsite it's difficult to ascertain this. I do take the Skoda website with a pinch of salt. It's not always up-to-date and there are generally grammar errors from conversion in Czech.

Would £130 be correct amount of difference for two very similar engines?

Regards,

Lummox · 03-01-2005, 14:16

Skoda dont make a non PD diesel Fabia, other than the SDi.

BlackFR · 03-01-2005, 14:17

I didnt think there wa such a thing as a 1.9 non PD 130 bhp in the VAG range??? and they have the same stats under specifications ???

skodaTDI · 03-01-2005, 14:19

so that confirms a definite mistake on the website then.

We've got to think about £130 then? minus a CD player? no heated seats? Smaller wheels? Unless they're being sneaky - labelling an SDI engine as a TDI engine.

Regards,

Turbostream · 03-01-2005, 14:36

It's got to be a tryping error. May be some one updated the list and forgot to delete other entries?

DavidY · 03-01-2005, 17:16

It's not just the vRS - several models are duplicated on the list. For instance:
Classic 1.9 SDI 64bhp £9547 £9700
Classic 1.9 SDI £8947 £9100

This has a bigger price difference though - £600 on the road.

MonkeyHanger · 03-01-2005, 19:05

The different values are the price minus Excise duty & Reg fee, for company car tax / allowance purposes i would think...

Quote:

The P11D value is the RRP less the Vehicle Excess Duty - VED and first registration fee.

Lummox · 03-01-2005, 19:49

I thought the P11D difference was between the last two columns.

Turbostream · 03-01-2005, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross Clarke

I thought the P11D difference was between the last two columns.

There seems to be 2 versions of each engine/ trim? Is/has there been a price increase for the start of 2005?

Elegance 1.4 16v Auto 180 C £11157 £11340
Elegance 1.4 16v 161 B £10467 £10630
Elegance 2.0 185 C £11507 £11690
Sport 1.4 16V 75bhp 156 B £9587 £9750
Elegance 1.9 TDI 100bhp 135 A £11617 £11770
Elegance 1.4 16V 75bhp Auto 180 C £11282 £11465
Elegance 1.4 16V 100bhp 161 B £10587 £10750
Elegance 2.0 100bhp 185 C £11637 £11820
Elegance 1.9 TDI PD 100bhp 135 A £11747 £11900
vRS 1.9TDI PD 130bhp 146 A £12227 £12380
vRS 1.9TDI PD 146 A £12097 £12250

copied the last few

***DGW*** · 03-01-2005, 20:21

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ie If we've got anything wrong on our site, tough!

Turbostream · 03-01-2005, 20:24

I think it's just plain confusing.

Not that it matters really, cause if you order a new car you would "haggle a deal" in anycase. (hopefully!)

***DGW*** · 03-01-2005, 20:27

I would bet on a typo. We even get the odd one(s) here too...

Turbostream · 03-01-2005, 20:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

I would be on a trypo. We even get the odd one(s) here too...

***DGW*** · 03-01-2005, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbostream

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

I would be on a typo. We even get the odd one(s) here too...

Touche! Now corrected.

Turbostream · 03-01-2005, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

We even get the odd one here too...

That'l be me then...

John W · 03-01-2005, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbostream

There seems to be 2 versions of each engine/ trim? Is/has there been a price increase for the start of 2005?

1% price rise across the Fabia range wef 1st January 2005.

Metallic paint also increases to £280.

DavidY · 04-01-2005, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by John W

1% price rise across the Fabia range wef 1st January 2005.

Metallic paint also increases to £280.

There was also an offer of free air-con on most Fabias (with free cruise control on Elegance spec). Has that finished now?

02-01-2005, 13:52	#1
BlackFR Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 100 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Whats the difference? http://www.skoda.co.uk/skoda3g/conte...a/pricing.aspx shows: vRS 1.9TDI PD 130bhp 146 A £12227 £12380 vRS 1.9TDI PD 146 A £12097 £12250 so whats the difference between the two and what do you get for the extra 130 quid??

02-01-2005, 14:07	#2
Turbostream Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 558 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had a look at that and was wondering? __________________ ---------------------------------------------- Ade, Brummie. Corsa SRi 1.7 CDTi... dont laugh, its really very good. previously 2001 Furbie Elegance TDi, Nature Green, no mods To Tinker: May your pain be at an end ....we will miss you my furry friend.

02-01-2005, 14:17	#3
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	The cheaper one must come without an engine, as its got no horsepower at all! __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

02-01-2005, 19:56	#5
gingerVrs Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: newcastle Posts: 190 Members Car: Skoda fabia Vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bloody hell £1 per horse power that is very cheap indeed :-) __________________ "I am not bothered about the smoke that comes out the back of my car" I'm not behind it

03-01-2005, 14:13	#7
skodaTDI Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nr.Wigan Posts: 167 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Hatch 1.9 TDI Elegance - Colour: X9X9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmm, I think that the list is mis-typed. It should read:- vRS 1.9TDI PD 130bhp vRS 1.9TDI 130bhp Elsewhere on the website one lists as being PD engine and the other not. If that is true I would imagine that the non-PD engine is slightly less fuel-effecient or slightly less torquey, however, from the tech information supplied on the site and vRS microsite it's difficult to ascertain this. I do take the Skoda website with a pinch of salt. It's not always up-to-date and there are generally grammar errors from conversion in Czech. Would £130 be correct amount of difference for two very similar engines? Regards, __________________ If only eveyone drove at 70mph on the motorway, we'd never have to brake then.

03-01-2005, 14:16	#8
Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,964 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	Skoda dont make a non PD diesel Fabia, other than the SDi. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

03-01-2005, 14:17	#9
BlackFR Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 100 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I didnt think there wa such a thing as a 1.9 non PD 130 bhp in the VAG range??? and they have the same stats under specifications ???

03-01-2005, 14:19	#10
skodaTDI Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nr.Wigan Posts: 167 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Hatch 1.9 TDI Elegance - Colour: X9X9 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	so that confirms a definite mistake on the website then. We've got to think about £130 then? minus a CD player? no heated seats? Smaller wheels? Unless they're being sneaky - labelling an SDI engine as a TDI engine. Regards, __________________ If only eveyone drove at 70mph on the motorway, we'd never have to brake then.

03-01-2005, 14:36	#11
Turbostream Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 558 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It's got to be a tryping error. May be some one updated the list and forgot to delete other entries? __________________ ---------------------------------------------- Ade, Brummie. Corsa SRi 1.7 CDTi... dont laugh, its really very good. previously 2001 Furbie Elegance TDi, Nature Green, no mods To Tinker: May your pain be at an end ....we will miss you my furry friend.

03-01-2005, 17:16	#12
DavidY Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Midlands Posts: 308 Members Car: Fabia (mk1) TDI Estate Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	It's not just the vRS - several models are duplicated on the list. For instance: Classic 1.9 SDI 64bhp £9547 £9700 Classic 1.9 SDI £8947 £9100 This has a bigger price difference though - £600 on the road.

03-01-2005, 19:49	#14
Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,964 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	I thought the P11D difference was between the last two columns. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

03-01-2005, 20:21	#16
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,394 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 67 Thanked 223 Times in 168 Posts	5] DISCLAIMER AND LIABILITY a) ALL EXPRESS WARRANTIES, REPRESENTATIONS, CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND OR OTHER TERMS IMPLIED BY STATUTE OR COMMON LAW WITH RESPECT TO THIS WEB SITE OR THE INFORMATION, CONTENT, MATERIALS OR PRODUCTS INCLUDED ON THIS WEB SITE ARE HEREBY EXPRESSLY EXCLUDED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. b) ŠKODAAUTO UK SHALL NOT BE LIABLE IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR ANY DIRECT OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL LOSS OR DAMAGE (WHETHER FOR PROFIT OR LOSS OR OTHERWISE) COSTS, CLAIMS, EXPENSES OR OTHER CLAIMS FOR COMPENSATION WHAT SO EVER, WHETHER CAUSED BY THE ACTS, OMISSIONS OR THE NEGLIGENCE OF ŠKODAAUTO UK, ITS EMPLOYEES OR AGENTS, WHICH ARISE OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OF THIS WEB SITE OR THE INFORMATION, CONTENT MATERIALS OR PRODUCTS IN-CLUDED ON THIS WEBSITE, EXCEPT IN RESPECT OF DEATH OR PERSONAL INJURY CAUSED BY ŠKODAAUTO UK's IT'S EMPLOYEES' OR IT'S AGENTS' PROVEN NEGLIGENCE. c) ŠKODAAUTO UK DOES NOT ACCEPT ANY RESPONSIBILITY OR LIABILITY FOR ACCESS TO OR MATERIAL ON, ANY WEBSITE THAT IS LINKED FROM OR TO THIS WEBSITE. ie If we've got anything wrong on our site, tough! __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.12mpg...

03-01-2005, 20:24	#17
Turbostream Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 558 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think it's just plain confusing. Not that it matters really, cause if you order a new car you would "haggle a deal" in anycase. (hopefully!) __________________ ---------------------------------------------- Ade, Brummie. Corsa SRi 1.7 CDTi... dont laugh, its really very good. previously 2001 Furbie Elegance TDi, Nature Green, no mods To Tinker: May your pain be at an end ....we will miss you my furry friend.

03-01-2005, 20:27	#18
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,394 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 67 Thanked 223 Times in 168 Posts	I would bet on a typo. We even get the odd one(s) here too... __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.12mpg... Last edited by DGW; 03-01-2005 at 20:33.

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