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Old 30-05-2007, 11:02   #1
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I seem to remember seeing a post that mentioned a Spigot for locating wheels when changing, As i have just moved my wheels around to even up wear it would have been a help (old and Weak ! )
I think some Makers may supply as standard, Asked at Halfords, er never heard of them mate now i know some one out there knows, or i could get a friend to knock one up

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Re: Wheel Location

the spigot is part of the hub, just a raised piece in the centre that inserts into the centre hole of the wheel. this takes the weight of the wheel whilst you get one bolt in place.
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Re: Wheel Location

...or don't jack the car up any higher than necessary!

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Re: Wheel Location

Audi supply a plastic peg about 4 inches long which screws into the hub to hold the wheel whilst you fit the wheel studs. Once the others are in you simply unscrew it and replace with the remaining stud.

Don't know why the rest of the VAG group don't get them as standard in the tool kit though.
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Don't know why the rest of the VAG group don't get them as standard in the tool kit though.
The Skoda is the only car I've owned without studs on the hub. Is this a German thing, or just a VAG thing?

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I think that the Audi one is cheaper!
From memory, I think that they are only a couple of pounds from the stealer.
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I think that the Audi one is cheaper!
From memory, I think that they are only a couple of pounds from the stealer.
Supplied with the tool kit in the superb elegance.

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Supplied with the tool kit in the superb elegance.

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Volkswagen supplied them with the B5 Passat, but the problem will be that the Fabia/Polo/Ibiza bolt holes are a smaller thread size (I think). The good think about the plastic one supplied with the A6/A4/Passat/Superb is that it will not rip the paint of the bolt holes on your alloys, unlike the unbreakable aftermarket ones - now there's an opening for someone to grab the market by manufacturing preferably solid plastic locating studs!
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...or don't jack the car up any higher than necessary!

HTH
Yes, that used to work in the past, but its a bummer when your trolley jack now drops very slowly - I've tried shouting at the wheels and calling them very bad names - but that does not work either! I think plastic studs, or steel studs with a reduced shank that is clad with nylon to protect the alloys are the way forward.
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You need the plastic stud from a Mk1 Audi A3 tool kit.
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Re: Wheel Location

Cheers, lots of useful info here, Off to amusse my local friendly Audi Dealer.?
Who will order me one from the depths of China me thinks,um perhaps i will phone first

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Re: Wheel Location

Since my previous post on this subject, I have checked the 9N Polo wheel bolt size and discovered it is M14 X 1.5 - same size as my Passat, not smaller as I suggested - the previous Polo and the 6K Ibiza are M12 X 1.5.

So, that means that the Audi A4/A6, Passat and Superb plastic "guide pin" will work.

I've checked up on ETOS and the "guide pin" for the 2000 Passat is p/n 893 012 223.

The only problem is that ETOS calls it a"tommy bar" - but the only thing in my Passat tool kit that can be used as a tommy bar is the shaft of the screwdriver - which ETOS correctly calls a screwdriver with hex head - probably the same as you have in the Fabia tool kit.

I might just order a couple myself very soon.
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Re: Wheel Location

Thanks for all the info have now got aluminum one on order from Audi £8, plastic £3, if you want to save a bit. Should be hear by monday just hope its the right thread the Guy i spoke to seemed on the ball, If its ok i will post part number.


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Fabia tool kit.
What's one of them, then?
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What's one of them, then?
Er read my first post and all will become clear , Havant got it in my hand yet
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Er read my first post and all will become clear , Havant got it in my hand yet
Ah, you miss the point. The "toolkit" in a Fabia consists of jack, wheel brace and locking wheel nut tool. It sounded from rum4mo's post (mentioning a screwdriver) as though the toolkit in his Passat was rather more comprehensive!

Hence, "Fabia toolkit? What's one of them, then?", because it hasn't really got one!
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Re: Wheel Location

Ok i now have said Tool, Audi call it a Tommy Bar ?. Anyway good news is they gave me the wrong price its------£4:18p Yep the aluminum one so if you need one the part No is 7L0012223 i have warned them to expect a stamped


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Got it Audi call it Tommy Bar ?, Good news only £4:18p for Aluminum one. The Part no is .7L0012223. Result,The power of forums a! I will find this tool most useful for changing wheels from front to back (6 wheel changes if you dont use a trolly jack)


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I called into my VW van centre on Tuesday and handed over both numbers - but I said one was an Audi part, "sorry can't order that one" and the VW part "not in stock and I can't order". Bummmm they are usually very helpful as long as I give them correct p/ns. So, as Audi is at a VERY busy traffic area (can't be ar$ed waiting 30 minutes in traffic four times), I'll probably get a bar of aluminium turned down to 14mm and tap them myself (hope I have an M14 x 1.5 die). Now why didn't I do that a long time ago!!
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The Skoda is the only car I've owned without studs on the hub. Is this a German thing, or just a VAG thing?

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Personally I prefer no studs. Its a lot easier to shift a stuck alloy when there are no studs, instead of having to bang away at the wheel from the back when you have studs and risk knackering the rim you can just rotate the wheel around the hub using a piece of timber and a rubber hammer..it'll break the corrosion a lot easier.
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Right, now I have changed my mind and went to my local VW dealer and got him to order me one plastic wheel locator and one aluminium wheel locator.

Plastic one 893 012 223 £2.09 inc VAT Aluminium one 7L0 012 223 £4.18 inc VAT

The plastic one has been modified and is now not hollow and is perfectly suitable for supporting the wheel - so it is now in the Polo tool kit.

The aluminium one is obviously a lot stronger and is quite a bit longer - that one I am keeping as a garage tool.

By the way VW do not provide their models with an expansive "tool kit" - just the same basic bits as Skoda and Seat supply - anyone know what is the spanner is for by the way?
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Personally I prefer no studs. Its a lot easier to shift a stuck alloy when there are no studs, instead of having to bang away at the wheel from the back when you have studs and risk knackering the rim you can just rotate the wheel around the hub using a piece of timber and a rubber hammer..it'll break the corrosion a lot easier.
Easiest way to free a stuck wheel is to loosen the bolts a couple of turns- making sure the threads are still well engaged, then drive very slowly a couple of feet, or give the car a shove.
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Easiest way to free a stuck wheel is to loosen the bolts a couple of turns- making sure the threads are still well engaged, then drive very slowly a couple of feet, or give the car a shove.
I agree! I first had this problem years ago with a Mk2 Escort 1.6 with steel wheels - even just rocking the car from side to side seemed to work okay.
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