Wheel spacers

andy ellis · 15-07-2005, 17:17

Anyone used the eibach wheel spacers yet and if so what size? and whats the positive effect of using them?

**VRStu** · 15-07-2005, 17:20

Rears to widen the track I believe Andy.

Try German Ebay - about 15mm from what i've read.

**roo** · 15-07-2005, 17:23

the uses for them is if you have wheels that rub when turning from being too wide, and from making the arches look fuller by making the wheel stick out a bit more.

Tom_vRS · 15-07-2005, 17:50

I understand it can cause problems with premature wheel bearing failure though? Just a thought...

FabiaTDi · 15-07-2005, 18:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy ellis

Anyone used the eibach wheel spacers yet and if so what size? and whats the positive effect of using them?

yes I have them Andy, but you only need the rears.

15mm I have and recommended max if you are planning on lowering.

20mm can be fitted otherwise.

positive effects are more settled feeling under braking and cornering.

The extra track width is not actually that obvious.

common mod on ibizas etc..

Mil · 16-07-2005, 06:38

Yes but Matt, if you fit spacers to the rear, does it cause premature wheel-bearing problems or not?

I'd like to do that, but I don't want future problems wth wheel bearings. Can you get your bearings checked?

SkodiRS · 16-07-2005, 08:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

Yes but Matt, if you fit spacers to the rear, does it cause premature wheel-bearing problems or not?

I'd like to do that, but I don't want future problems wth wheel bearings. Can you get your bearings checked?

You can check your wheel bearing by jacking up car and shaking the wheel. There should be no other movemetn other than the normal, i.e. direction wheels move (

).

Mil · 16-07-2005, 08:26

I know that!!

I was just asking if HE could get his wheels checked so that I would know somehow if it is okay to fit rear spacers..

FabiaTDi · 16-07-2005, 09:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

Yes but Matt, if you fit spacers to the rear, does it cause premature wheel-bearing problems or not?

I'd like to do that, but I don't want future problems wth wheel bearings. Can you get your bearings checked?

The answer is I really dont know, I will theck them this weekend.

These are the spacers that I have fitted to mine - we are not talking about the kind of spacers you find in Halfords for a tenner here.

The thing is, it is not so much a styling mod - it is more to benefit the handling and stability (thats why rear fitment only)

I fitted mine after reading a few posts on SEATcupra.net - people like Badger Bill have them fitted to Ibizas and I reckon he would know what he was talking about. I also ordered them form Badger5 so asked more questions then.

Mike at Jabba also commented about benefits of fitting to Ibizas etc. Apparently more recent wheel spacers are able to handle the spacers, whereas it could be more of a problem on older cars such as Mk2s etc.

If people are that worried about wheel bearing problems, then the answer is easy - dont fit them..

Personally after reading up on it I was quite happy to trial/fit them and I reckon the results are worthwhile. Isnt that what this car modding lark is all about?

Have people with had problems with bearing failure then on Ibiza4s/fabias then? Starting to wonder now

lol..

Mine have been fitted for approx 8000 miles. Will have a look this weekend.

EDITED: IMPORTANT NOTE YOU MUST FIT THE CORRECT LONGER WHEEL BOLTS WHEN FITTING WHEEL SPACERS.

JBS Auto Design · 16-07-2005, 09:09

The Fabia`s never really did have a problem with the rear bearings.
The front ones they did to start.
You dont just fit the bearing on the fronts it is the hub and bearing £50 ish if I remember correctly.
But the fronts have been superceeded a couple of times.
But the rears I have heard nothing.
With fitting bigger wheels or tyres you can put extra stress on the bearings.
But if you are covered under warranty and you hear a noise , dont you just remove the spacers before you take it to a dealer to get it checked out?

***Neo_VR*** · 16-07-2005, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

Yes but Matt, if you fit spacers to the rear, does it cause premature wheel-bearing problems or not?

I'd like to do that, but I don't want future problems wth wheel bearings. Can you get your bearings checked?

Its a unknown quantity...
the rear bearings are sealed units.. i had one fail without spacers... dealer blamed the alloys... when it was more likey a manufacturing defect
i think its a case of if they are going to fail they will fail sooner with the extra lateral loads put on it... but doesnt mean it causes premature wear... if that makes sense

Mil · 16-07-2005, 09:59

Cool. I want them to improve handling. If rear spacers will do that I think I'll place my order.

Thanks a million.

Mil · 16-07-2005, 10:19

Again, is it reeeeeally okay to fit spacers just in the rear?

I want to order them, but only upon knowing for sure that they're okay to use.

Mil · 16-07-2005, 14:19

Okay....

just checked with my dealer. Rear spacers are okay to use.

However, I was going to ask for 20mm but when the assistant service manager and I measured the gap between the wheel and the rear fender, it shows I can only fit upto 15mm

20mm and the tyres stick out a lot!!!

So I've ordered 12mm H&R spacers with the required bolts. Setting me back about GBP50 for both of them. Will be fitted at the dealers.

**roo** · 16-07-2005, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mil

Will be fitted at the dealers.

why? do they have to be welded on or something?

WW_VRS · 16-07-2005, 14:40

More like why not, if you're happy to pay for it, that is

Mil · 16-07-2005, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by roo

Why? Do they have to be welded on or something?

No, but at least when it's done there, if anything goes wrong, it's their problem. Always lookin' for security you know....

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Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Yes but Matt, if you fit spacers to the rear, does it cause premature wheel-bearing problems or not? I'd like to do that, but I don't want future problems wth wheel bearings. Can you get your bearings checked? __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

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Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I know that!! I was just asking if HE could get his wheels checked so that I would know somehow if it is okay to fit rear spacers.. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

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JBS Auto Design Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central UK Posts: 913 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The Fabia`s never really did have a problem with the rear bearings. The front ones they did to start. You dont just fit the bearing on the fronts it is the hub and bearing £50 ish if I remember correctly. But the fronts have been superceeded a couple of times. But the rears I have heard nothing. With fitting bigger wheels or tyres you can put extra stress on the bearings. But if you are covered under warranty and you hear a noise , dont you just remove the spacers before you take it to a dealer to get it checked out?

16-07-2005, 09:59	#12
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Cool. I want them to improve handling. If rear spacers will do that I think I'll place my order. Thanks a million. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

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Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Again, is it reeeeeally okay to fit spacers just in the rear? I want to order them, but only upon knowing for sure that they're okay to use. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

16-07-2005, 14:19	#14
Mil Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United Arab Emirates Posts: 3,801 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Okay.... just checked with my dealer. Rear spacers are okay to use. However, I was going to ask for 20mm but when the assistant service manager and I measured the gap between the wheel and the rear fender, it shows I can only fit upto 15mm 20mm and the tyres stick out a lot!!! So I've ordered 12mm H&R spacers with the required bolts. Setting me back about GBP50 for both of them. Will be fitted at the dealers. __________________ Milton Kyvernitis Private Government

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