When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service

HellFire · 20-06-2006, 08:21

Just wondering really as i'm gauging the at what time I should be selling my vRS around.

When does the turbo need changing, does it have a MAJOR service @ 80,000 miles?

My mate has an Audi 1.8T that has just touched 85k, it's just had a new turbo, clutch, cambelt, oil and filter change and new suspension springs all round

I don't want to be spending that much!! Does the vRS have a major major overhaul at anytime?

***Neo_VR*** · 20-06-2006, 08:24

Lol..

Depends on so many factors..
80K is the biggy for the fabia.. cambelt service, not cheap.. but other than that service it depends how its been treated/driven to what else needs changing.

chris_newell41 · 20-06-2006, 12:22

after the above recommendations about how the car is driven.....Hellfire you best look for a new car now! if you bought all the parts you needed you might aswell buy a fabia Kit Car!

only jesting of course as I don't know how you drive!

DRJ · 20-06-2006, 19:45

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Originally Posted by Neo_VR

80K is the biggy for the fabia.. cambelt service, not cheap.. but other than that service it depends how its been treated/driven to what else needs changing.

The evidence is different depending where you look.

The Fabia is supposed to be on service schedule QG0 - this requires a belt change at 100,000 miles according to the Service Book.

However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms...

It also state thereon "Diesel engine toothed belt may be subject to change on certain variants due to changes/improvements in productions" just to confuse the situation further...

And if you've got a Petrol engined Fabia the advice on that Checklist is "change as necessary" !!!!!

Spanner · 20-06-2006, 21:14

I got advised when picking mine up after the 50k service that apparently cambelts are now changed at 60k. Or should that read 'they advise'.

Lummox · 20-06-2006, 21:20

However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms...

That i the only check list there is.

The left hand colomn is headed QG0, this is for the Fabia. Right hand is for QG1/QG2

Cambelts are the same regardless of the service regime.

Petrol ones are advised to be checked at 60k and 20k thereafter and replaced when required.

And we dont actually carry out the service to the sheet alone anyhow, you use the workshop manuals also. This is all being replaced shortly anyhow when ELSA comes online.

***DGW*** · 20-06-2006, 22:16

The most expensive service of all is likely to be that at 15 years when all the seatbelts and belt tensioners, plus the airbag system, have to be replaced. That lot would probably cost far more than the car would be worth.

aixlad · 20-06-2006, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

The most expensive service of all is likely to be that at 15 years when all the seatbelts and belt tensioners, plus the airbag system, have to be replaced. That lot would probably cost far more than the car would be worth.

Is this a legal requirement, or just a manufacturers maintenance recommendation? (In 15-years time there probably won't be any oil available to run our Skodas

)

Lummox · 20-06-2006, 22:38

Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about.

aixlad · 20-06-2006, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about.

I seem to recall that my old Mk4 Golf had a 10-year expiration date on the airbags. More of a "Best before..." date rather than a "Use before..." date.

I think it's something to do with the explosive charge that deploys the airbag, with age the material degrades and looses some of its explosive capability (

).

ScoobyChris · 21-06-2006, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about.

Any idea if this is standard for all manufacturers or where it is likely to be documented? Looking at a banger for SWMBO which may be approaching 10-15 years old!

Chris

chris_newell41 · 21-06-2006, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Any idea if this is standard for all manufacturers or where it is likely to be documented? Looking at a banger for SWMBO which may be approaching 10-15 years old!

Chris

not sure may cars had a airbag 10- 15 years ago? im too young to know as I would have been 12!

I wouldn't worry about the air bag, i'm sure there are bigger problems on 10 15 yr old cars to worry about that than that.

how much are new airbags. they arn't cheap are they?

ScoobyChris · 21-06-2006, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_newell41

not sure may cars had a airbag 10- 15 years ago? im too young to know as I would have been 12!

I wouldn't worry about the air bag, i'm sure there are bigger problems on 10 15 yr old cars to worry about that than that.

how much are new airbags. they arn't cheap are they?

Ummm - quite a few cars do

Bigger problems than the insurance becoming invalidated?

And, I suspect, a lot

Might end up looking for cars without airbags now

Chris

chris_newell41 · 21-06-2006, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Bigger problems than the insurance becoming invalidated?
Chris

Good point! I think only the more executive car makes will have airbags at that age surely. There will be loads of cars to choose from without.

ScoobyChris · 21-06-2006, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_newell41

Good point! I think only the more executive car makes will have airbags at that age surely. There will be loads of cars to choose from without.

Nissan Micra was fitted with a driver's air bag as standard equipment (on all except the L model) from 1st August 1995

Chris

MikeW · 21-06-2006, 14:20

My old Astra Mark 3 (1995) had an airbag, think they were beginning to get common then.

DRJ · 21-06-2006, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

DRJ> However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms...

That i the only check list there is.

The left hand colomn is headed QG0, this is for the Fabia. Right hand is for QG1/QG2

Cambelts are the same regardless of the service regime.

Petrol ones are advised to be checked at 60k and 20k thereafter and replaced when required.

And we dont actually carry out the service to the sheet alone anyhow, you use the workshop manuals also. This is all being replaced shortly anyhow when ELSA comes online.

Interesting - and whilst I don't dispute what you say at all, the form I have (SK27) doesn't quite seem to follow what you've outlined.

Certainly there are two columns on the left hand side of the sheet which are headed "20,000 miles/2 year inspection" and "12 months inspection Fabia/Octavia Pre'01 (QC0)" and a single column on the right hand side being a tick list headed "OK". There are tick boxes at the head dealing with variable and fixed. And a section below titled "Additional Operations".

I conclude the operations for the variable servicing regime follow the requirements of the "20,000" service although later on it's noted "Petrol Up to 18,000m (2yr) Diesel Up to 30,000m (2yr). [Certainly makes a diesel cheap to run if it's only having a service every 30,000 miles]

The other side dealing with cambelt changes is clearly headed as I noted before.
Seems like Skoda's Service Sheets are just as confusing as their Service Schedules

aixlad · 21-06-2006, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Nissan Micra was fitted with a driver's air bag as standard equipment (on all except the L model) from 1st August 1995

Chris

My mate bought a brand new Mondeo, K-reg (1992), it had a driver's airbag as standard. I believe the Mondeo was the first "low cost, standard, volume production car sold in the UK" to have a driver's airbag as standard. BTW, a few weeks later he wrapped it up and was certain that the airbag saved his life.

Lummox · 21-06-2006, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRJ

Seems like Skoda's Service Sheets are just as confusing as their Service Schedules

Exactly, its just as confusing for us sometimes. Just glad im on VW now as we allready have ELSA, I type in the vehicles chassis number and the correct service sheet comes up and all the servicing is logged on the system.

Mazda are doing the same, you dont get a service book with them. The service book is online with Mazda.

20-06-2006, 08:21	#1
HellFire Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 3,174 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service Just wondering really as i'm gauging the at what time I should be selling my vRS around. When does the turbo need changing, does it have a MAJOR service @ 80,000 miles? My mate has an Audi 1.8T that has just touched 85k, it's just had a new turbo, clutch, cambelt, oil and filter change and new suspension springs all round I don't want to be spending that much!! Does the vRS have a major major overhaul at anytime? __________________ Metro Blue '06' 5 Door Astra 1.8 SRi

20-06-2006, 08:24	#2
*Neo_VR* Om nom nom nom Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,614 Members Car: A White Car Thanks: 85 Thanked 182 Times in 131 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service Lol.. Depends on so many factors.. 80K is the biggy for the fabia.. cambelt service, not cheap.. but other than that service it depends how its been treated/driven to what else needs changing. __________________ ColGod the UberMod ,___, [O.o] /)__) -"--"- ORLY??

20-06-2006, 12:22	#3
chris_newell41 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,524 Members Car: 2006 Fabia VRS Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service after the above recommendations about how the car is driven.....Hellfire you best look for a new car now! if you bought all the parts you needed you might aswell buy a fabia Kit Car! only jesting of course as I don't know how you drive! __________________ Fabia Vrs Blackmagic! Xenons, Cruise Control, Heated Seats and ESP Wednesday 12th may 2006 was my VRS day

20-06-2006, 21:14	#5
Spanner Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mid Beds Posts: 429 Members Car: fab vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service I got advised when picking mine up after the 50k service that apparently cambelts are now changed at 60k. Or should that read 'they advise'. __________________ Fabia vRS forunner to the Bentley Continental GT Briskoda - Skoda's illegitimate family Mods: Superchip, K&N filter, Eibach springs, FSD dampers, black front grille,

20-06-2006, 21:20	#6
Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,963 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms... That i the only check list there is. The left hand colomn is headed QG0, this is for the Fabia. Right hand is for QG1/QG2 Cambelts are the same regardless of the service regime. Petrol ones are advised to be checked at 60k and 20k thereafter and replaced when required. And we dont actually carry out the service to the sheet alone anyhow, you use the workshop manuals also. This is all being replaced shortly anyhow when ELSA comes online. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details. Last edited by Lummox; 20-06-2006 at 21:21.

20-06-2006, 22:16	#7
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,394 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 67 Thanked 223 Times in 168 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service The most expensive service of all is likely to be that at 15 years when all the seatbelts and belt tensioners, plus the airbag system, have to be replaced. That lot would probably cost far more than the car would be worth. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.12mpg...

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Lummox Partner Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,963 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 29 Thanked 831 Times in 699 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

21-06-2006, 14:20	#16
MikeW Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,509 Members Car: Thanks: 9 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service My old Astra Mark 3 (1995) had an airbag, think they were beginning to get common then.

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