Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge?

Beeza_Tdi · 09-02-2008, 17:26

As above, has anyone fitted an electrical boost gauge to their tdi? Apparently it taps into the actuator instead of the usual manifold/intercooler. It uses a boost sensor which is read by the gauge unlike the mechanical ones which actually use boost to power the gauge?

No one on the SEAT forum has fitted one yet so I thought I would give you guys a go?

Thanks in advance

jasc1988 · 09-02-2008, 17:28

Nice cupra, im not jealous though.... much

Beeza_Tdi · 09-02-2008, 17:43

Cheers (between me and you though its not really a cupra!) The spec is better than a cupra though

jasc1988 · 09-02-2008, 17:45

Ahh

I want a cupra tdi ibiza but thats a different matter, shhh though.

Anyhow good luck and welcome to the forum

oilburninnut · 09-02-2008, 18:23

skudmissile john's the man

youngsyd · 09-02-2008, 18:27

Was just about to say the same!

I think devonutopia has a digital too? Might be wrong though...

Nice Beeza by the way, fancy a feature in an online mag for all VAG cars? (Sorry for going off topic!) I will PM you!

oilburninnut · 09-02-2008, 18:30

skoda's first!!!!!!!!!!!

oh dear its causing agro allready

youngsyd · 09-02-2008, 18:33

HAHA.

Cant you sence it in the air Gary!?

big_dave · 09-02-2008, 18:34

I fitted a ScanGauge today, now it can show me the manifold absolute pressure. Work's quite well.

WW_VRS · 09-02-2008, 23:29

Got a linky??

big_dave · 10-02-2008, 00:54

ScanGauge II Xgauge Now available in United Kingdom, the 3-in-one Automotive Computeran OBD 2 Scanner. Realtime feedback while simultaneously tracking three sets of trip data

I will try to take a pic tomorrow.

Taxi 219 · 10-02-2008, 05:46

Thats a cool unit.
Where does it plug into Big Dave?

big_dave · 10-02-2008, 11:55

It plugs into the OBD connector (behind the can cooler). I've got mine mounted on the steering column.

oilburninnut · 10-02-2008, 13:15

does it act as a boost gauge too?

big_dave · 10-02-2008, 17:53

skudmissile · 10-02-2008, 21:20

I have an electrical boost guage boost gauge !

The only way to measure the boost pressure on a tdi pd with a vnt turbo is to take a tapping point off the inlet manifold.

The small vacumn pipe that controls the actuator doesnt carry boost! It carries a vacumn which controls the actuator which controls the VNT mechanism.

This is where the confusion comes from, on a petrol turbo...... the pipe running to the actuator does contain boost from the inlet manifold.... the more boost the more the actuator will close the waste gate and the more the turbo will spin and the more boost it will supply,,,,,, Its like a vicious circle

If you tap into this point on a vag pd your car will run like pooo, and youll get a neg reading on the boost gauge.

In other words you really need to tap into the inlet manifold or buy one of these fancy looking obd reader thingys

joenitro · 10-02-2008, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by big_dave

ScanGauge II Xgauge Now available in United Kingdom, the 3-in-one Automotive Computeran OBD 2 Scanner. Realtime feedback while simultaneously tracking three sets of trip data

I will try to take a pic tomorrow.

Now, THAT is absolutely sweet!! And just when I'm trying to save a bit of money too!!
How 'real time' are the readings Dave? How are you finding the unit to operate etc. (mini review???!)

Edit: And also, where did you purchase it from and how much was it?

Beeza_Tdi · 11-02-2008, 01:16

Im wishing i'd just bought the usual mechanical one now, looks like i'll be getting a garage to fit it. The place I took it to for a quote said it does use the actuator, in the pack its got a T shaped "junction" like bit of tubing to allow you to tap into the actuator.

Thanks for comments on my car!

skudmissile · 11-02-2008, 11:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beeza_Tdi

Im wishing i'd just bought the usual mechanical one now, looks like i'll be getting a garage to fit it.

The place I took it to for a quote said it does use the actuator, in the pack its got a T shaped "junction" like bit of tubing to allow you to tap into the actuator.

Thanks for comments on my car!

Whatever you do dont take it to the place that said tap into the actuator piping

The mechanical one will mount in the same way the electrical one does. the only difference is with the electrical one you dont have to run a think tube into the car you only have a thin wire to run.

Plus the mechanical ones are really noisy, i had one...... it did my head in

dxg · 31-05-2008, 23:22

Does anyone with a scangauge know if the boost pressure can be read as bar, rather than PSI. And is the MPG in US gallons rather than UK?

I'm seriously thinking about getting one of these as they'e much cheaper than I thought, but this:

Race Diagnostics Ltd - Home

in kit form isn't much more. With a bit of hacking, I'm sure some kind of housing for the fabia could be made - it's just a case of taking a gamble on what it could actually read...

The fabia is listed as a supported car...

What do you guys reckon? Take a gamble? The only downside is it doesn't log and the display software seems to be *really* crude from the videos on the site...

joenitro · 09-12-2008, 18:34

Sorry to drag up an old thread, but............ any chance of that 'mini review' big_dave? Pretty please!

09-02-2008, 17:26	#1
Beeza_Tdi Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? As above, has anyone fitted an electrical boost gauge to their tdi? Apparently it taps into the actuator instead of the usual manifold/intercooler. It uses a boost sensor which is read by the gauge unlike the mechanical ones which actually use boost to power the gauge? No one on the SEAT forum has fitted one yet so I thought I would give you guys a go? Thanks in advance __________________

09-02-2008, 17:28	#2
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,042 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 106 Thanked 136 Times in 131 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Nice cupra, im not jealous though.... much __________________ Star Remap, BMC, Helix, 312's, Magnex, Vibratechniks mount, Allard Power Pipe, VMaxx Coilies, CCV mod, Pikey Short Shifter, Stainless Boost pipes, Pikey arch mod, HID's, 17's, Heated Seats, Cruise + many more

09-02-2008, 17:43	#3
Beeza_Tdi Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Cheers (between me and you though its not really a cupra!) The spec is better than a cupra though __________________

09-02-2008, 17:45	#4
jasc1988 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,042 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 106 Thanked 136 Times in 131 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Ahh I want a cupra tdi ibiza but thats a different matter, shhh though. Anyhow good luck and welcome to the forum __________________ Star Remap, BMC, Helix, 312's, Magnex, Vibratechniks mount, Allard Power Pipe, VMaxx Coilies, CCV mod, Pikey Short Shifter, Stainless Boost pipes, Pikey arch mod, HID's, 17's, Heated Seats, Cruise + many more

09-02-2008, 18:23	#5
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,748 Members Car: vrs sse Thanks: 189 Thanked 144 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? skudmissile john's the man __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

09-02-2008, 18:27	#6
youngsyd is chilled out! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scunthorpe, Nth Lincs Posts: 2,083 Members Car: Fabia vRS Black Magic Thanks: 68 Thanked 82 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Was just about to say the same! I think devonutopia has a digital too? Might be wrong though... Nice Beeza by the way, fancy a feature in an online mag for all VAG cars? (Sorry for going off topic!) I will PM you! __________________ Blood runs through our veins, thats where all similarities end....

09-02-2008, 18:30	#7
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,748 Members Car: vrs sse Thanks: 189 Thanked 144 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? skoda's first!!!!!!!!!!! oh dear its causing agro allready __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

09-02-2008, 18:33	#8
youngsyd is chilled out! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scunthorpe, Nth Lincs Posts: 2,083 Members Car: Fabia vRS Black Magic Thanks: 68 Thanked 82 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? HAHA. Cant you sence it in the air Gary!? __________________ Blood runs through our veins, thats where all similarities end....

09-02-2008, 18:34	#9
big_dave Freeeeeedom Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 231 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 35 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? I fitted a ScanGauge today, now it can show me the manifold absolute pressure. Work's quite well. __________________ Powered by BioDiesel (occasionally)

09-02-2008, 23:29	#10
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,961 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 48 Thanked 92 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Got a linky?? __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

10-02-2008, 00:54	#11
big_dave Freeeeeedom Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 231 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 35 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? ScanGauge II Xgauge Now available in United Kingdom, the 3-in-one Automotive Computeran OBD 2 Scanner. Realtime feedback while simultaneously tracking three sets of trip data I will try to take a pic tomorrow. __________________ Powered by BioDiesel (occasionally)

10-02-2008, 05:46	#12
Taxi 219 Not anymore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 2,278 Members Car: Octavia TDi 2006 Thanks: 118 Thanked 112 Times in 109 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Thats a cool unit. Where does it plug into Big Dave? __________________ Car now: 56 Octavia MK2 1.9TDi Ambiente-Debadged-Metallic Flamenco Red DMF Reqiured soon Previous: 06 Octavia Mk1 1.9TDi Classic with + pack-Diamond Silver Sadly missed: 97 Nissan Primera 2.0TDi SLX- Red Paul I only live for GTA IV

10-02-2008, 11:55	#13
big_dave Freeeeeedom Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 231 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 35 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? It plugs into the OBD connector (behind the can cooler). I've got mine mounted on the steering column. __________________ Powered by BioDiesel (occasionally)

10-02-2008, 13:15	#14
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,748 Members Car: vrs sse Thanks: 189 Thanked 144 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? does it act as a boost gauge too? __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

10-02-2008, 17:53	#15
big_dave Freeeeeedom Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 231 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 35 Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? __________________ Powered by BioDiesel (occasionally)

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10-02-2008, 21:20	#16
skudmissile Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,144 Members Car: Thanks: 418 Thanked 180 Times in 160 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? I have an electrical boost guage boost gauge ! The only way to measure the boost pressure on a tdi pd with a vnt turbo is to take a tapping point off the inlet manifold. The small vacumn pipe that controls the actuator doesnt carry boost! It carries a vacumn which controls the actuator which controls the VNT mechanism. This is where the confusion comes from, on a petrol turbo...... the pipe running to the actuator does contain boost from the inlet manifold.... the more boost the more the actuator will close the waste gate and the more the turbo will spin and the more boost it will supply,,,,,, Its like a vicious circle If you tap into this point on a vag pd your car will run like pooo, and youll get a neg reading on the boost gauge. In other words you really need to tap into the inlet manifold or buy one of these fancy looking obd reader thingys __________________ Run out of CASH

11-02-2008, 01:16	#18
Beeza_Tdi Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 8 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Im wishing i'd just bought the usual mechanical one now, looks like i'll be getting a garage to fit it. The place I took it to for a quote said it does use the actuator, in the pack its got a T shaped "junction" like bit of tubing to allow you to tap into the actuator. Thanks for comments on my car! __________________

31-05-2008, 23:22	#20
dxg Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 215 Members Car: Thanks: 8 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Does anyone with a scangauge know if the boost pressure can be read as bar, rather than PSI. And is the MPG in US gallons rather than UK? I'm seriously thinking about getting one of these as they'e much cheaper than I thought, but this: Race Diagnostics Ltd - Home in kit form isn't much more. With a bit of hacking, I'm sure some kind of housing for the fabia could be made - it's just a case of taking a gamble on what it could actually read... The fabia is listed as a supported car... What do you guys reckon? Take a gamble? The only downside is it doesn't log and the display software seems to be really crude from the videos on the site... __________________ .

09-12-2008, 18:34	#21
joenitro Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 261 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 6 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Who's fitted an electrical boost gauge? Sorry to drag up an old thread, but............ any chance of that 'mini review' big_dave? Pretty please! __________________ Lemon Yellow '54' Fabia vRS :: Jabbasport custom remap (183bhp & 295 lb/ft (@ Jabba!) ) :: Green Filter :: PD 160 intake :: Becker MP3 Audio :: VRStu cruise control

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