Why all the modifications?

mr. hedgehog · 26-04-2006, 09:11

My choice of a VRS was economical. I wanted the performance of my old cupra with the economy of a TDi (and the moon on a stick

).

I could have had the PD160 ibiza Cupra standard, or for the same money (well, a bit more now...) have a fully loaded VRS with some interesting mods which handled and performed better. (the cupra would never have survived in standard form).

I am a tinkerer, whether it be PC, Car, in the garden, the fishtank, even at work! - you name it, i've modified it; I can always see improvements.

The FVRS is a great car standard - but has SO MUCH POTENTIAL! I'm on the waiting list with JBS for big turbo concversion now, and mines only 4 months old and done 7000 miles

Just to see the look on a BMW drivers face when you pull away from them in a little skoda hatch makes it worth it alone.

GazTheHat · 26-04-2006, 09:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. hedgehog

My choice of a VRS was economical. I wanted the performance of my old cupra with the economy of a TDi (and the moon on a stick

).

I could have had the PD160 ibiza Cupra standard, or for the same money (well, a bit more now...) have a fully loaded VRS with some interesting mods which handled and performed better. (the cupra would never have survived in standard form).

I am a tinkerer, whether it be PC, Car, in the garden, the fishtank, even at work! - you name it, i've modified it; I can always see improvements.

The FVRS is a great car standard - but has SO MUCH POTENTIAL! I'm on the waiting list with JBS for big turbo concversion now, and mines only 4 months old and done 7000 miles

Just to see the look on a BMW drivers face when you pull away from them in a little skoda hatch makes it worth it alone.

You got a link/details on the BIG turbo conversion? Is it not gonna change the driving, introducing more lag??

devonutopia · 26-04-2006, 09:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazTheHat

You got a link/details on the BIG turbo conversion? Is it not gonna change the driving, introducing more lag??

Big turbo does change the driving - gives you more power.

I've not noticed any real lag with mine, but then perhaps I've never driven a pd130 without a big turbo so am not used to it being any different. The turbo tends not to be the source of lag, it tends to be big FMICs which have a much larger volume than the standard SMIC, and also has wider pipework. Again I have a decent FMIC and 50mm pipework throughout my turbo system, and noticed no real lag.

mr. hedgehog · 26-04-2006, 10:03

Still waiting for the full info after speaking to James last month. The conversion looks like being a hybrid from what was said, but he couldn't comment on output or costs at that point. I expect with will be fairly similar to jabbas seeing as the standard injectors limit output to about 220 bhp.

Give JBS a ring and get your name put on the 'interested' list.

If it is a hybrid it shouldn't add lag, its not a bigger turbo. May even spool up quicker with a good exhaust.

mr. hedgehog · 26-04-2006, 10:11

Deleted - duplicate post.

ScoobyChris · 26-04-2006, 10:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Big turbo does change the driving - gives you more power.

I've not noticed any real lag with mine, but then perhaps I've never driven a pd130 without a big turbo so am not used to it being any different.

I think you get no lag because you have a hybrid turbo, rather than a big turbo. A big turbo requires more exhaust gases to spin it up, which means it kicks in further up the rev-range, but does result in big (but not really as useable) bhp

Chris

devonutopia · 26-04-2006, 10:49

ah right Chris - assumed with my turbo being from a V6 tdi it might be a bit bigger. I do get quite good spool up with having essentially no exhaust at all.

Well, I'm happy with it anyway, and there's further upgrades to be had with it too, should I wish.

matchmaker · 26-04-2006, 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by It aint no taxi

Thats not funny

the vRS to taxi ratio up here is about 1 vRS to every 5000 tdi's

Tdi's? In Stirling 90% of the Octy taxis are sdi's

And about 90% of the taxis in Stirling are white Octys

No vRS taxis

**TaviaRS** · 26-04-2006, 11:02

Hey, there's nothing wrong with SDIs

matchmaker · 26-04-2006, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

Hey, there's nothing wrong with SDIs

**TaviaRS** · 26-04-2006, 11:06

What's funny about that?

I have an SDI, and I find that mine is reasonably brisk yet still economical. As per my sig, it is adequate for my level of driving talent

matchmaker · 26-04-2006, 11:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

What's funny about that?

I have an SDI, and I find that mine is reasonably brisk yet still economical. As per my sig, it is adequate for my level of driving talent

The way our local taxi drivers drive their sdi's they are all obviously vRS wannabies

I'm assuming that they all have a standard sdi lump under the bonnet

**TaviaRS** · 26-04-2006, 11:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by matchmaker

The way our local taxi drivers drive their sdi's they are all obviously vRS wannabies

I'm assuming that they all have a standard sdi lump under the bonnet

I aspire to an RS, but found that my old 1.4 16v was quicker than most RSs, so when it came to time to change I went for the SDI on the assumption that it would be quicker than most TDIs.

I've not been disappointed

matchmaker · 26-04-2006, 11:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

I aspire to an RS, but found that my old 1.4 16v was quicker than most RSs, so when it came to time to change I went for the SDI on the assumption that it would be quicker than most TDIs.

I've not been disappointed

ItsOnlyMe_vRS · 26-04-2006, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

I think you get no lag because you have a hybrid turbo, rather than a big turbo. A big turbo requires more exhaust gases to spin it up, which means it kicks in further up the rev-range, but does result in big (but not really as useable) bhp

Chris

Not Stricktly true. I'm havinga turbo conversion as we speak. Was told that there lazier than the standard turbo, and come in about 300 RPM's later. There is a slight lag, but the behoaviour of the Furby changes to behave more like a petrol. Oh yeah, and SHed loads of torque

ScoobyChris · 26-04-2006, 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsOnlyMe_vRS

Not Stricktly true. I'm havinga turbo conversion as we speak. Was told that there lazier than the standard turbo, and come in about 300 RPM's later. There is a slight lag, but the behoaviour of the Furby changes to behave more like a petrol. Oh yeah, and SHed loads of torque

So you're agreeing with me

Basically, you are sacrificing 300rpm of rev range and as a result will have to keep the revs up to use the power from the turbo?

Did they say which petrol car it was going to behave like?

Chris

It aint no taxi · 27-04-2006, 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by matchmaker

Tdi's? In Stirling 90% of the Octy taxis are sdi's

And about 90% of the taxis in Stirling are white Octys

No vRS taxis

All the airport taxis are white, the taxi centre in West End is stil putting 06 plate sdi's (I stand corrected

) all of which are silver a bit like vRS's are all black in Scotland

ps there is even a few yellow taxis kicking about!!

GazTheHat · 27-04-2006, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsOnlyMe_vRS

Not Stricktly true. I'm havinga turbo conversion as we speak. Was told that there lazier than the standard turbo, and come in about 300 RPM's later. There is a slight lag, but the behoaviour of the Furby changes to behave more like a petrol. Oh yeah, and SHed loads of torque

That's what i would've thought. But 300rpm is not that much, even with the limited range. The turbo conversion guys will have to post some details when it's done. Prices, driveability, power etc.

26-04-2006, 09:11	#26
mr. hedgehog Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 256 Members Car: Seat Leon Cupra Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why all the modifications? My choice of a VRS was economical. I wanted the performance of my old cupra with the economy of a TDi (and the moon on a stick ). I could have had the PD160 ibiza Cupra standard, or for the same money (well, a bit more now...) have a fully loaded VRS with some interesting mods which handled and performed better. (the cupra would never have survived in standard form). I am a tinkerer, whether it be PC, Car, in the garden, the fishtank, even at work! - you name it, i've modified it; I can always see improvements. The FVRS is a great car standard - but has SO MUCH POTENTIAL! I'm on the waiting list with JBS for big turbo concversion now, and mines only 4 months old and done 7000 miles Just to see the look on a BMW drivers face when you pull away from them in a little skoda hatch makes it worth it alone. __________________ Fabia VRS - Heated full leather, cruise, 160 intake, green filter, Forge FMIC, CC Stage 1, 312mm drilled Zimmermans, Momo Strutbrace, Jabba ARB, Eibach springs, Octy 17"s & Cupra R splitter, Helix Clutch & SMFW. Allard EGR bypass. Bring on the VT2...

26-04-2006, 10:03	#29
mr. hedgehog Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 256 Members Car: Seat Leon Cupra Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why all the modifications? Still waiting for the full info after speaking to James last month. The conversion looks like being a hybrid from what was said, but he couldn't comment on output or costs at that point. I expect with will be fairly similar to jabbas seeing as the standard injectors limit output to about 220 bhp. Give JBS a ring and get your name put on the 'interested' list. If it is a hybrid it shouldn't add lag, its not a bigger turbo. May even spool up quicker with a good exhaust. __________________ Fabia VRS - Heated full leather, cruise, 160 intake, green filter, Forge FMIC, CC Stage 1, 312mm drilled Zimmermans, Momo Strutbrace, Jabba ARB, Eibach springs, Octy 17"s & Cupra R splitter, Helix Clutch & SMFW. Allard EGR bypass. Bring on the VT2...

26-04-2006, 10:11	#30
mr. hedgehog Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 256 Members Car: Seat Leon Cupra Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Why all the modifications? Deleted - duplicate post. __________________ Fabia VRS - Heated full leather, cruise, 160 intake, green filter, Forge FMIC, CC Stage 1, 312mm drilled Zimmermans, Momo Strutbrace, Jabba ARB, Eibach springs, Octy 17"s & Cupra R splitter, Helix Clutch & SMFW. Allard EGR bypass. Bring on the VT2... Last edited by mr. hedgehog; 26-04-2006 at 10:14.

26-04-2006, 10:49	#32
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,490 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 79 Thanked 381 Times in 322 Posts	Re: Why all the modifications? ah right Chris - assumed with my turbo being from a V6 tdi it might be a bit bigger. I do get quite good spool up with having essentially no exhaust at all. Well, I'm happy with it anyway, and there's further upgrades to be had with it too, should I wish. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. BRISKODA CLUBSTAND @ Castle Combe! 25/04/09! Track session too! Click me! See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

26-04-2006, 11:02	#34
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,940 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 43 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Why all the modifications? Hey, there's nothing wrong with SDIs __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

26-04-2006, 11:06	#36
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,940 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 43 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Why all the modifications? What's funny about that? I have an SDI, and I find that mine is reasonably brisk yet still economical. As per my sig, it is adequate for my level of driving talent __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

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