pinkskud

right! tryed to order a piper fast road cam today. and failed!!!

the bloke on the phone said something about the engine being a "baby aee" (i think he ment the 75bhp vertion) and he could only get a cam for the "big boy" i think vw did a 100bhp aee, not sure, maybe someone could educate me??

are the two engines mechanicly, the same??? what i'm trying to say is. do the extra 25bhp come from the ecu? or are the two engines slightly differant in some way????

if i order the cam for the 100bhp aee. will it fit/run well in my "baby" aee??????

can someone please help me!!! this is driving me to the brink of bying a lada

Babs

"baby aee"?

engine code AEE? 1.6 8v?

a 100bhp 1.6 8v will be a different engine code.

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pinkskud

"baby aee" is what the bloke on the phone was calling it, cuz its only a 55kw?????

i'm all disconbobulated. i thourght an aee was an aee???????????/

Lummox

it is, VW did however do a 100bhp version of the 1.6 from what I remember.

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TeflonTom

there is a 100bhp 1.6 8v with the code AKL iirc which was based on the 827 series block, but it is totally different, it has bigger bores and a shorter stroke, the cylinder head is totally different and the cams wont interchange.

there have been slight variations of the aee engine, but the differences in these are only in the oil pump/drive, but the cams/clinder head remains the same.... the 1.0, 1.4 and 1.6 polo engines all have very similar cylinder heads, the only difference is the shape of the combustion chamber, and the cams are totally interchangeable between engines(except 1.0 with AHT engine code)

what is the part number of the cam you tried to order??

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pinkskud

i was trying to order a vphbp270h. but i didnt have the part no. to hand on the phone, so was trying to get the bloke to look it up. but he told me there was nothing listed????

TeflonTom

hold on! i'll just have a look at the piper catlogue..... now, where did i leave it??

pinkskud

got to go mate, be back later.

TeflonTom

right i've had a quick gander.

it's listed as 254degrees, 17-57 57-17, 110deg for the 1400cc polo/golf engine..

that is perfect for fast road, and it will fit your engine....

make sure when you fit a new cam you put new hydraulic lifters in too otherwise the old lifters will wreck the new cam

simonsheil

Ok Tom, what power gain would you expect from this setup?

TeflonTom

swings and rounabouts!!!

you loose a little here, you gain a little there!! i'd expect to see a 10% gain in peak ouput at the cost of less torque lower down the rev range

pinkskud

ok, sent an email to piper to see what they know. hopfely we will get a definative awnser.

WoodieGuthrie

heh- you could have bought 3 to try out in this time

sure you'll get the right one eventually.

gone off the kent ones then?

after all my hard work

pinkskud

now thers an idea, kent!!!!!!! 4got about them. guna sitdown 2moro with the phone, and not get up till i'v ordered a dam cam!!!!!!

WoodieGuthrie

gonna hold ya to that

pinkskud

the chap at performance center is getting back to me on monday to confirm the order.
but i might phone piper at lunch time in monday to see about a custom grind. (they wern't open on sat)

TeflonTom

they will do a custom grind, but only if the blanks are available.. to be honest you're probably better off just choosing the ones they have to offer.... my advice is go for the mildest one they make