Noise in fifth gear

Vincent Vega · 30-04-2007, 17:43

Just had the middle part of the exhaust replaced and on the way home i noticed that when i accelerate the engine makes a loud whiny noise this only happens in fifth gear and sounds like its coming from the drivers side.

Any thoughts on this ?

fordfan · 30-04-2007, 18:33

Don't use 5th, the gear retaining nut has come loose, continued use will strip the splines on the shaft and will be expensive. It is not a major job to fix and a new nut is about £5 + new gearbox oil, labour should be 1 to 1.5 hours. It is DIYable.

**mannyo** · 17-05-2007, 08:45

Following on from this, I can now say that my brothers car is now fixed. Was in at the skoda dealer on tuesday, cost him about £150 for the repair but at least he has the use of 5th gear again. The problem was as fordfan described the retaining nut.

Now all he needs to do is get a new clutch once he has saved up some pennies again, as apparently this one will soon be knocking on deaths door.

daggis · 03-05-2008, 11:38

How much torque to use when attaching this retaining nut?

rigsby · 03-05-2008, 21:10

cant be that much, as if you are removing it, it is because it has already come loose

pinkskud · 05-05-2008, 00:48

i did this job the other week.

your gunna meed some big old spanners, i cant remember the sizes but i know you'll need some bigish ones for the drain plug and the 5th gear nut itself.

you'll also need a second jack, a trolly or bottle type will do. this is used to hold/lift/lower the gear box when you taking the gearbox mount off

once you have the mount/end cover off, you'll be able to see whitch one off not both of the nuts has come a-drift. the nuts cost £7 inc/vat each, and to be on the safe side i would recomend getting two (just in case both have gone)

your gunna need a good pin punch or cold chisle to peen the sholder of the nut and lock it in place.

i also used some gear box casing sealer compound then i put the cover back on. i dont think you really need it bit i did it anyway.

once the box is all back to gether and the mount bolted up. you'll need to re-fill the box with transmition fluid. when stood at the front of the car, and looking at were the speedo drive goes in, on the left of the speedo drive you'll see a little skrew. undo this skrew and slide out the falk shaped retaining plate. the speedo drive should then just pull out. use the little speedo gear as a dip stick to check the oil level.

o yer and you'll need a bit of hose pipe attached to a funnal to fill the box again.

hope this helps

TeflonTom · 06-05-2008, 22:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkskud

o yer and you'll need a bit of hose pipe attached to a funnal to fill the box again.

i use a syphon pump to do mine approx £5 off ebay and it makes it so much quicker

the gearbox should take about 2.5 litres of oil

pinkskud · 07-05-2008, 19:39

good call tom

daggis · 09-05-2008, 22:46

Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the help!

Took of the end cover today, only to find none of the nuts are lose

I have 5th gear whining, and it jumps out of gear, so I really thought this was it..

Guess I should get myself a new gearbox then.. Crap..

TeflonTom · 09-05-2008, 23:44

i expect the bearings are gone then

30-04-2007, 17:43	#1
Vincent Vega Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South East Posts: 130 Members Car: Felicia Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Noise in fifth gear Just had the middle part of the exhaust replaced and on the way home i noticed that when i accelerate the engine makes a loud whiny noise this only happens in fifth gear and sounds like its coming from the drivers side. Any thoughts on this ? __________________

30-04-2007, 18:33	#2
fordfan ECUless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,052 Members Car: Thanks: 31 Thanked 245 Times in 214 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear Don't use 5th, the gear retaining nut has come loose, continued use will strip the splines on the shaft and will be expensive. It is not a major job to fix and a new nut is about £5 + new gearbox oil, labour should be 1 to 1.5 hours. It is DIYable.

17-05-2007, 08:45	#3
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,465 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 359 Times in 330 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear Following on from this, I can now say that my brothers car is now fixed. Was in at the skoda dealer on tuesday, cost him about £150 for the repair but at least he has the use of 5th gear again. The problem was as fordfan described the retaining nut. Now all he needs to do is get a new clutch once he has saved up some pennies again, as apparently this one will soon be knocking on deaths door. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

03-05-2008, 11:38	#4
daggis Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear How much torque to use when attaching this retaining nut?

03-05-2008, 21:10	#5
rigsby Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: DONCASTER Posts: 1,108 Members Car: FELICIA FUN,FAVORIT,FABIA TDI,ESTELLE ROADSTER Thanks: 16 Thanked 116 Times in 112 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear cant be that much, as if you are removing it, it is because it has already come loose __________________ I DONT WANT TO DIE A GROWN UP!

05-05-2008, 00:48	#6
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,150 Members Car: 1.6l felicia 1998 Thanks: 1 Thanked 78 Times in 74 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear i did this job the other week. your gunna meed some big old spanners, i cant remember the sizes but i know you'll need some bigish ones for the drain plug and the 5th gear nut itself. you'll also need a second jack, a trolly or bottle type will do. this is used to hold/lift/lower the gear box when you taking the gearbox mount off once you have the mount/end cover off, you'll be able to see whitch one off not both of the nuts has come a-drift. the nuts cost £7 inc/vat each, and to be on the safe side i would recomend getting two (just in case both have gone) your gunna need a good pin punch or cold chisle to peen the sholder of the nut and lock it in place. i also used some gear box casing sealer compound then i put the cover back on. i dont think you really need it bit i did it anyway. once the box is all back to gether and the mount bolted up. you'll need to re-fill the box with transmition fluid. when stood at the front of the car, and looking at were the speedo drive goes in, on the left of the speedo drive you'll see a little skrew. undo this skrew and slide out the falk shaped retaining plate. the speedo drive should then just pull out. use the little speedo gear as a dip stick to check the oil level. o yer and you'll need a bit of hose pipe attached to a funnal to fill the box again. hope this helps __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

07-05-2008, 19:39	#8
pinkskud not a bird!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: pixi said not to fill my box Posts: 2,150 Members Car: 1.6l felicia 1998 Thanks: 1 Thanked 78 Times in 74 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear good call tom __________________ also found on http://skodafelicia.freeforums.org/index.php

09-05-2008, 22:46	#9
daggis Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear Thanks guys, I really appreciate all the help! Took of the end cover today, only to find none of the nuts are lose I have 5th gear whining, and it jumps out of gear, so I really thought this was it.. Guess I should get myself a new gearbox then.. Crap..

09-05-2008, 23:44	#10
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 8,237 Members Car: Fabia 2.0/Felicia Thanks: 47 Thanked 233 Times in 205 Posts	Re: Noise in fifth gear i expect the bearings are gone then

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