Uprated clutches

dervdoctor · 15-03-2007, 21:58

We offer uprated clutches from Sachs race engineering and Helix Autosport, we have been dealing with Helix Autosport of about 4 years.

We recommend the sachs clutch with organic plate for upto 350 ft-lb on the 1.9 TDi's, as it retains the stock dual mass fly wheel.

The helix clutch comes with a solid flywheel, billet aluminium cover and a organic plate, its rated at 440 f-lb.

We recommend the sach clutch if you do not need the extra torque rating as there is an increased amount of noise from it at idle.

Example prices
Fabia Vrs

Sachs organic clutch and new release bearing:- 430 plus VAT
Helix Auto sport clutch and flywheel assemble with new release bearing :- 719 plus VAT

We charge 185 plus VAT to fit a clutch into a fabia.

Jon TDI · 28-03-2007, 12:40

Is the Helix clutch harsh in engagement?

dervdoctor · 28-03-2007, 12:42

the helix drives fine, but its a little noisey at idle. Due to the lack of a dual mass flywheel

Jon TDI · 28-03-2007, 12:48

That I can live with.

It's the actual operation I'm interested in. Don't want a stiff operation or harsh bite really.
Are these paddle clutchs then?

dervdoctor · 28-03-2007, 12:54

its not a paddle its an organic plate. The weight is the same and the bite is fine.

Jon TDI · 28-03-2007, 12:55

Sounds good to me!

**tfboy** · 05-04-2007, 17:37

I have the Sachs uprated pressure plate as well as the clutch fitted to my fabia vrs and it's great.

TBH, the pedal feel is a bit stiffer than OEM. The bite is rather harsh, but this is when new and after a few hundred miles, once it bears in, it is very easy to control.

It does retain a slightly stiffer travel and sharper feel than the OEM one, even after bedding in, but it does allow for very controlled (and very fast!) starts

Well recommended in my books, and with the state of tune of my car, I don't have any clutch slippage at all

Wardy · 27-05-2007, 17:52

Is the price above for the Sachs organic on the Fab vRS still current? Any chance it's got cheaper?

Cheers,
Steve

dervdoctor · 13-07-2007, 23:12

We now have a new version of the solid fly wheel, it's now heavier which reduces the noise at idle. The clutch is the same price as the older version.

Wardy · 31-07-2007, 23:51

Thanks for the update. Just another question - is the release bearing you mention for the Sachs kit part of the standard kit from them? If not, are you including it because you feel it's necessary when upgrading the clutch?

If it is separate, could you quote me the separate price, so I can compare overall quotes like for like? Thanks - please PM me details if felt necessary.

Steve

dervdoctor · 03-08-2007, 11:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardy

Is the price above for the Sachs organic on the Fab vRS still current? Any chance it's got cheaper?

Cheers,
Steve

They are still the same price at the min

dervdoctor · 03-08-2007, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardy

Thanks for the update. Just another question - is the release bearing you mention for the Sachs kit part of the standard kit from them? If not, are you including it because you feel it's necessary when upgrading the clutch?

If it is separate, could you quote me the separate price, so I can compare overall quotes like for like? Thanks - please PM me details if felt necessary.

Steve

The release bearing is not part of the kit, its an OE one. Its a good idea to change is why you are there as if it started to leak the week after you would not be too pleased!

Jon TDI · 03-08-2007, 11:36

The OEM release bearing is £30 from a dealer.

dervdoctor · 03-08-2007, 11:53

We supply a bearing in the quoted prices.

15-03-2007, 21:58	#1
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Uprated clutches We offer uprated clutches from Sachs race engineering and Helix Autosport, we have been dealing with Helix Autosport of about 4 years. We recommend the sachs clutch with organic plate for upto 350 ft-lb on the 1.9 TDi's, as it retains the stock dual mass fly wheel. The helix clutch comes with a solid flywheel, billet aluminium cover and a organic plate, its rated at 440 f-lb. We recommend the sach clutch if you do not need the extra torque rating as there is an increased amount of noise from it at idle. Example prices Fabia Vrs Sachs organic clutch and new release bearing:- 430 plus VAT Helix Auto sport clutch and flywheel assemble with new release bearing :- 719 plus VAT We charge 185 plus VAT to fit a clutch into a fabia. __________________

28-03-2007, 12:40	#2
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 34 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Up rated clutches Is the Helix clutch harsh in engagement? __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille.

28-03-2007, 12:42	#3
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Up rated clutches the helix drives fine, but its a little noisey at idle. Due to the lack of a dual mass flywheel __________________

28-03-2007, 12:48	#4
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 34 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Up rated clutches That I can live with. It's the actual operation I'm interested in. Don't want a stiff operation or harsh bite really. Are these paddle clutchs then? __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille.

28-03-2007, 12:54	#5
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Up rated clutches its not a paddle its an organic plate. The weight is the same and the bite is fine. __________________

28-03-2007, 12:55	#6
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 34 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Up rated clutches Sounds good to me! __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille.

05-04-2007, 17:37	#7
tfboy C+ à Paris! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tilehurst, Berkshire Posts: 6,111 Thanks: 12 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Uprated clutches I have the Sachs uprated pressure plate as well as the clutch fitted to my fabia vrs and it's great. TBH, the pedal feel is a bit stiffer than OEM. The bite is rather harsh, but this is when new and after a few hundred miles, once it bears in, it is very easy to control. It does retain a slightly stiffer travel and sharper feel than the OEM one, even after bedding in, but it does allow for very controlled (and very fast!) starts Well recommended in my books, and with the state of tune of my car, I don't have any clutch slippage at all __________________ Xavier

27-05-2007, 17:52	#8
Wardy MD374 in (4) ;) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,265 Thanks: 333 Thanked 236 Times in 229 Posts	Re: Uprated clutches Is the price above for the Sachs organic on the Fab vRS still current? Any chance it's got cheaper? Cheers, Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

13-07-2007, 23:12	#9
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Uprated clutches We now have a new version of the solid fly wheel, it's now heavier which reduces the noise at idle. The clutch is the same price as the older version. __________________

31-07-2007, 23:51	#10
Wardy MD374 in (4) ;) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 10,265 Thanks: 333 Thanked 236 Times in 229 Posts	Re: Uprated clutches Thanks for the update. Just another question - is the release bearing you mention for the Sachs kit part of the standard kit from them? If not, are you including it because you feel it's necessary when upgrading the clutch? If it is separate, could you quote me the separate price, so I can compare overall quotes like for like? Thanks - please PM me details if felt necessary. Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen

03-08-2007, 11:36	#13
Jon TDI Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North East England Posts: 3,145 Thanks: 34 Thanked 27 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Uprated clutches The OEM release bearing is £30 from a dealer. __________________ Black Magic SEAT Leon 2.0 TDI Sport - Green panel thingy, Upsolute jiggery pokery, Koni FSD/Eibach Pro Kit bouncy stuff, 18" Audi A8 Parabol rims, '08 Cupra black/honeycombe grille.

03-08-2007, 11:53	#14
dervdoctor Site Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 196 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Uprated clutches We supply a bearing in the quoted prices. __________________

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