2006 vRS Stutter - NO FIX

[britzyblue]

Hi all,

I have started a new string as i think this is important and i am concerned that my last posting will not get noticed on the previous string.

Here is a copy of the reply from Skoda Customer Services concerning my complaint:

Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that the information posted on the BriSkoda website is not correct regarding a component cure for the Fabia vRS software/performance issue. Please accept my apologies for any misunderstanding from the information given by Customer Services.

I can confirm that our position remains the same and the factory at the Czech Republic is still investigating this matter. There has been no indication of any component causing this issue at present.

As stated in my previous email a solution will be communicated to all retailers who will in turn advised all the customers affected. May I advise you to keep in regular contact with your retailer for any further updates.

Garbage, utter garbage!

I once had a Triumph that did the same thing and Triuph replaced it FOC!

[sharkrider]

I'm sorry to hear that. hope all you '06 owners get it sorted out soon.

britzyblue: can you please PM me, or post on here the e-mail address you could contact Skoda customer services on please? I need to contact them with an issue, and have only found the 'feedback' form on the national website? and they haven't responded to my issues. thankyou.

sharky.

[ScoobyChris]

Anyone know if this stutter is unique to the Fabia, or does it also effect VW's and SEAT's?

Chris

[The The]

I rang the dealer again and he said the same that they where waiting for Skoda to issue the software fix, I am waiting as I fancied the remap from Chipboost but obviously I want to see what is done about the stutter first and I don’t want the dealer updating the software and wasting me £150.
If VW’s or Audi’s are affected surely they would have sorted it out by now and Skoda could get the fix off them,
Do VW still use the old 1.9 motor or is it just the 2.0? can you still get a 1.9 polo.

[Neily03]

Someones posted somewhere on here that VW and SEAT are affected and have decided to call it a 'characteristic' and don't intend to fix it....

[faboka vrs]

1.9 PD130 motor is still used in the polo and ibiza.

[faboka vrs]

Originally Posted by Neily03

Someones posted somewhere on here that VW and SEAT are affected and have decided to call it a 'characteristic' and don't intend to fix it....

[SteVRs]

Reject the car and get your money back - Sale of Goods and Services act gives you 100% legal right to do so.

[The The]

Has anybody still got the problem after a remap? It is a good reason to take the plunge if it is the only way to get smooth running,
Sorry getting off the point a little.

[chris_newell41]

i have a 06 fabia vrs and I have the BLT engine code with no problems at all. I did at first but it seems to have vanished

sorry to hear you lot having difficulties. shame as its fantastic and very smooth to drive

[The The]

It comes and goes with mine, but it is now back with a vengeance, it was really annoying on Sunday driving in traffic, very hot day don’t know if there is any connection but I will get in it tomorrow and it will probably be fine again! Convinced myself to take it to Chipboost but I have had time to calm down a bit.

[ChrisRs]

Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that the information posted on the BriSkoda website

We are being watched!!

[britzyblue]

Rejecting isn't as straight forward as you may think.

And as FabokaVRS has said the 'out' for a manufacturer is to declair it an inherrant fault or a characteristic. However i have already said that Triumph replaced my bike because it had a mapping problem which they couldn't resolve. I knew what to say and said it to the right person so i got a result.

Its a funny thing consumer law!

I had this engine in my MK4 Golf and it was a belter, i have had this Furby about 1 month and i love it, its had additional paintwork, wheels, springs, new badges and i really don't want to walk away, i just want it right.

[HellFire]

Feel sorry for you guys, is it just a lumpy idle/slow speed as it "might" be worth turning the EGR valve down to it's minimum using VAG-COM, mine idles a lot smoother now, slow speed movement seems no different but it "feels" smoother, not sure how much of this is a placebo affect.

Again uncertain of this so please don't quote me but are all new vRS's now Euro IV compliant? prehaps some of the gadgetry behind this is causing the issue, again prehaps the EGR valve may play a part in this.

At the end of the day, it's worth a go, it can easily be turned back on fully, and can't ever be truly turned off with VAG-COM anyway, just backs it off to the minimum.

IIRC if it does work then you remap your car, you may have to re-turn off the EGR valve as the new map puts it back on. Jabba map on mine re-enabled it, so I had to turn it back off with VAG-COM.

If your wondering what the EGR valve is - (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) basically it recirculates spent exhaust gases that could potentially reduce engine power by 20% on full throttle for emissions compliance, however it doesn't operate all the time anyway so a good 50% of the time it's probably not really influencing things anyway, but like I said it might be worth a go. Benefits of it being off? Like I said smoother idle IMO and generally slightly more free revving. It also stops gunk being built up in the engine as it's not recirculating shít.

[The The]

Whatever the fix they come up with the car has to remain Euro 4 compliant so mayby this is what is taking so much time, what hardware and software do you need for Vag com apart from obviously a laptop.

[Suncat]

Originally Posted by britzyblue

Hi all,

I have started a new string as i think this is important and i am concerned that my last posting will not get noticed on the previous string.

Here is a copy of the reply from Skoda Customer Services concerning my complaint:

Thank you for your email.

I can confirm that the information posted on the BriSkoda website is not correct regarding a component cure for the Fabia vRS software/performance issue. Please accept my apologies for any misunderstanding from the information given by Customer Services.

I can confirm that our position remains the same and the factory at the Czech Republic is still investigating this matter. There has been no indication of any component causing this issue at present.

As stated in my previous email a solution will be communicated to all retailers who will in turn advised all the customers affected. May I advise you to keep in regular contact with your retailer for any further updates.

Garbage, utter garbage!

I once had a Triumph that did the same thing and Triuph replaced it FOC!

Thanks for this info mate.

For the record, the details that I and others have posted on this site were not based on our 'misunderstanding' of information from Skoda UK. We were merely reporting what we had been told by them. If a Customer Service Rep. from Skoda UK tells you that there's a component/software fix, there is nothing to misunderstand. What Skoda Uk should be doing is apologising for misinforming myself and others and getting on with a fix!!!


Suncat

[SteVRs]

Originally Posted by britzyblue

Rejecting isn't as straight forward as you may think.

As somebody who's done it once myself and with a brother who rejected a 12 month old Fabia vRS I can assure you it is.

Either read and absorb the Sale of Goods act or get a solicitor and you'll have your money back within 2 months. Simple as that.

It really ****es me off when people say 'oh a car is really difficult to reject' - as far as the law is concerned a car is no dirrefent to a box of cornflakes. Not all 06 vRS's do it therefore it is not a characteristic of the product - there is a fault that Skoda cannot rectify therefore it is your choice whether you keep the car.

Stop ****ing about and get your money back.

And those of you talking about invalidating your warranties to remedy a faulty product really won't have a leg to stand on if you do - get a car that works and remap from there if you feel you want to take the risk.

Edit: I'll apologies if the tone offends anyone but I really feel strongly about companies deceiving their customers - Skoda you should be offering straight swaps to non-faulty ones or give these people their money back.

Somebody write to Auto Express's Watchdog section to make sure they don't sell any more faulty merchandise until this is sorted.

[gevans]

Originally Posted by The The

Has anybody still got the problem after a remap? It is a good reason to take the plunge if it is the only way to get smooth running,
Sorry getting off the point a little.

Mine has just the slightest trace of a stutter after a Revo remap. I now notice it for a fraction of a second, perhaps once every couple of weeks, whereas before the remap, I was getting it every day. I would say a 99% cure.

[SteVRs]

Originally Posted by gevans

Mine has just the slightest trace of a stutter after a Revo remap. I now notice it for a fraction of a second, perhaps once every couple of weeks, whereas before the remap, I was getting it every day. I would say a 99% cure.

And no warranty and no legal requirement for Skoda to fix it. Skoda 1 - Customer 0

[gevans]

Originally Posted by SteVRs

And no warranty and no legal requirement for Skoda to fix it. Skoda 1 - Customer 0

If you look at the post I was replying to, you will see that the question I was answering was "Has anybody still got the problem after a remap?".

Since I had the remap for the performance and got a 99% cure for the stutter as a bonus, I'm delighted.