Fabia VRS or Leon 150 TDI

scott8629 · 06-03-2005, 09:02

I have posted this tread on the Seat Cupra site to try and get overall opinon on the tow cars, here goes.....

I really like the look of Leon (Cupra TDI or FR TDI) however my brain and wallet is saying the Fabia VRS is a very good buy.

Im not saying I dont like the Fabia, its a nice looking car IMO but I really like the Leon, but is it worth £3K more?

So anyone on here driven them both? What are the main advantages of each?

Sorry for all the questions as I need a diesel ASAP as I now have a 80 mile round trip to work and the Golf VR6 does not cut it on the MPG's.

TIA

Scott

Lummox · 06-03-2005, 09:05

They are quite different cars size and power wise so whats you plans for the car? What do you need?

scott8629 · 06-03-2005, 09:17

I need a reliable car to get me to work and back, I have a small family (17 month old daughter) I found the Mk3 Golf was a good size not too big or small.

Are the Leon's more thisty on ther derv?

Scott

Lummox · 06-03-2005, 09:20

I dont think the Leon's are more thirsty when run in.

But if you want MK3 Golf size then the Leon would be the better bet, getting a buggy for example in the Fabia doesnt leave alot of room for anything else.

But perosnally I'd get a 2.0 TDi Octavia for that money.

scott8629 · 06-03-2005, 09:22

I though the Fabia was very close in terms of size to the MK3 Golf?

Lummox · 06-03-2005, 09:25

Fabia is the same size as the Ibiza and Polo.

fab16v · 06-03-2005, 09:30

I agree that with a small family the Leon is a much better bet. The Fabia is pretty tight on space being a small car. I love mine to bits, but if I had a family I would certainly be looking to change for a Leon or Octavia.

scott8629 · 06-03-2005, 09:36

Right best get looking out for a 2nd hand Leon TDI 150. does anyone know the insurance group?

Scott

Buzz L · 06-03-2005, 09:51

TDI FR is group 13

I swapped a 20VT Leon Cupra for the Fabia, the main reason being the running costs. The Leon is a very good looking car and is well equipped for the money.

The only problem is you may find it hard to find a 2nd hand one outside the dealer network and as the TDI is a quite a new model (was launched about 18 months ago) 2nd hand prices are still quite strong, but if you can find one you won't be disappointed.

***Neo_VR*** · 06-03-2005, 10:04

I would also consider a Octavia... its golf sized, but with a bigger boot. the Octy II will out handle a Sporty leon due to the new golf chassis. or a Octy L&K are cheap too.

JUT · 06-03-2005, 10:26

Just to add my 2c, I'd definitely have a look at both cars before you decide. I test drove both before buying the Furby. IMO there was no discernable extra perfromance from the Leon and the build quality was poorer - it felt flimsy and had a few rattles. The Furby on the other hand felt just as fast, has better visibilty and feels much better screwed together. Try before you buy, y'know?

The The · 06-03-2005, 10:33

And the Fabia has a supprising amount of space in it certainly more than my Clio had, though kids and those seats dont mix

***Neo_VR*** · 06-03-2005, 10:37

Yes... I would say they are about even on the performance.. the 150 engine has more lag, so is actually slower in real world driving. and any extra performance the engine does have would probably be cancelled out by the weight difference.
Ive also driven both and yes, the build quality in the leon was naff, but its a bigger car.. and the ride quality is better

scott8629 · 06-03-2005, 11:02

Can the Roof Box be installed on a Fabia VRS?
This would help on Holidays etc.

Scott

logiclee · 06-03-2005, 11:09

The Fabia has virtually the same legroom as the Leon/Mk1 Octy/old Golf and it's only a couple of inches narrower.

The Fabia's downside is boot space, it maybe as big as small family car inside but it's boot is supermini size.

If you can live with the boot space then a Fabia would be OK if not then look at the Leon or Octy.

Cheers
Lee

carefree · 06-03-2005, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by fab16v

I agree that with a small family the Leon is a much better bet. The Fabia is pretty tight on space being a small car. I love mine to bits, but if I had a family I would certainly be looking to change for a Leon or Octavia.

I have the missues, and 12 and 6 year old daughters........there IS more room in my furby than in the previous mk3 AND 4 Golfs. Easy big enough.

cav-mad-gav · 06-03-2005, 12:42

i also love the Leon and the VRS but heres what sways me to the VRS

Cheaper to buy
Cheaper to run
Cheaper to insure (about £500

Cheaper service parts (ALOT cheaper)
Just genrally cheaper where it counts, not cheap quality though

lfc958 · 06-03-2005, 12:48

having owned Octy & furby.

If you need boot space, then it HAS to be Octy, the rest of the choices it has to be Furby.
Steve

carefree · 06-03-2005, 12:53

Granted IF boot space is important then consider others (although the furby STILL isn't all that small) However, the driver/passenger space is definately roomy enough.

Lummox · 06-03-2005, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by cav-mad-gav

Cheaper service parts (ALOT cheaper)

Hows that possible when they are the same bits?

06-03-2005, 09:02	#1
scott8629 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Fabia VRS or Leon 150 TDI I have posted this tread on the Seat Cupra site to try and get overall opinon on the tow cars, here goes..... I really like the look of Leon (Cupra TDI or FR TDI) however my brain and wallet is saying the Fabia VRS is a very good buy. Im not saying I dont like the Fabia, its a nice looking car IMO but I really like the Leon, but is it worth £3K more? So anyone on here driven them both? What are the main advantages of each? Sorry for all the questions as I need a diesel ASAP as I now have a 80 mile round trip to work and the Golf VR6 does not cut it on the MPG's. TIA Scott

06-03-2005, 09:30	#7
fab16v Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere in Herts Posts: 3,105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I agree that with a small family the Leon is a much better bet. The Fabia is pretty tight on space being a small car. I love mine to bits, but if I had a family I would certainly be looking to change for a Leon or Octavia. __________________ Graeme Ex Skoda owner twice over.

06-03-2005, 09:51	#9
Buzz L Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: A galaxy far far away Posts: 195 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	TDI FR is group 13 I swapped a 20VT Leon Cupra for the Fabia, the main reason being the running costs. The Leon is a very good looking car and is well equipped for the money. The only problem is you may find it hard to find a 2nd hand one outside the dealer network and as the TDI is a quite a new model (was launched about 18 months ago) 2nd hand prices are still quite strong, but if you can find one you won't be disappointed. __________________ Black Magic Fabia v/RS with cruise, Seat Sport Strut Brace and JVC EXAD KD-LHX502

06-03-2005, 10:04	#10
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,106 Thanks: 67 Thanked 164 Times in 114 Posts	I would also consider a Octavia... its golf sized, but with a bigger boot. the Octy II will out handle a Sporty leon due to the new golf chassis. or a Octy L&K are cheap too. __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things...

06-03-2005, 10:26	#11
JUT Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North London Posts: 1,204 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Just to add my 2c, I'd definitely have a look at both cars before you decide. I test drove both before buying the Furby. IMO there was no discernable extra perfromance from the Leon and the build quality was poorer - it felt flimsy and had a few rattles. The Furby on the other hand felt just as fast, has better visibilty and feels much better screwed together. Try before you buy, y'know? __________________ Fabia has SOLD! Weekend car: Cooper Green TVR Chimaera Daily driver: Carmine Red Vauxhall Omega... 2.0 LS... Auto... Estate... with towbar & drinking problem

06-03-2005, 09:05	#2
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,885 Thanks: 22 Thanked 667 Times in 562 Posts	They are quite different cars size and power wise so whats you plans for the car? What do you need?

06-03-2005, 09:17	#3
scott8629 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I need a reliable car to get me to work and back, I have a small family (17 month old daughter) I found the Mk3 Golf was a good size not too big or small. Are the Leon's more thisty on ther derv? Scott

06-03-2005, 09:20	#4
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,885 Thanks: 22 Thanked 667 Times in 562 Posts	I dont think the Leon's are more thirsty when run in. But if you want MK3 Golf size then the Leon would be the better bet, getting a buggy for example in the Fabia doesnt leave alot of room for anything else. But perosnally I'd get a 2.0 TDi Octavia for that money.

06-03-2005, 09:22	#5
scott8629 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I though the Fabia was very close in terms of size to the MK3 Golf?

06-03-2005, 09:25	#6
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,885 Thanks: 22 Thanked 667 Times in 562 Posts	Fabia is the same size as the Ibiza and Polo.

06-03-2005, 09:36	#8
scott8629 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Right best get looking out for a 2nd hand Leon TDI 150. does anyone know the insurance group? Scott

06-03-2005, 10:33	#12
The The Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East Posts: 469 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	And the Fabia has a supprising amount of space in it certainly more than my Clio had, though kids and those seats dont mix __________________ http://www.derekslackmotors.skoda.co.uk .

06-03-2005, 10:37	#13
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,106 Thanks: 67 Thanked 164 Times in 114 Posts	Yes... I would say they are about even on the performance.. the 150 engine has more lag, so is actually slower in real world driving. and any extra performance the engine does have would probably be cancelled out by the weight difference. Ive also driven both and yes, the build quality in the leon was naff, but its a bigger car.. and the ride quality is better __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things...

06-03-2005, 11:02	#14
scott8629 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can the Roof Box be installed on a Fabia VRS? This would help on Holidays etc. Scott

06-03-2005, 11:09	#15
logiclee Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 787 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The Fabia has virtually the same legroom as the Leon/Mk1 Octy/old Golf and it's only a couple of inches narrower. The Fabia's downside is boot space, it maybe as big as small family car inside but it's boot is supermini size. If you can live with the boot space then a Fabia would be OK if not then look at the Leon or Octy. Cheers Lee __________________ Another Ex-Scooby owner. Mondeo TDCi 130 6 Speed Ghia, Octavia 1.9TDi Elegance (Now Sold), Fabia 1.9TDi Comfort and Felicia 1.9D GLi

06-03-2005, 12:42	#17
cav-mad-gav Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nottingham, East Midlands Posts: 349 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i also love the Leon and the VRS but heres what sways me to the VRS Cheaper to buy Cheaper to run Cheaper to insure (about £500 Cheaper service parts (ALOT cheaper) Just genrally cheaper where it counts, not cheap quality though

06-03-2005, 12:48	#18
lfc958 Hello New Car Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kent Posts: 4,044 Thanks: 11 Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts	having owned Octy & furby. If you need boot space, then it HAS to be Octy, the rest of the choices it has to be Furby. Steve __________________ Steve Hello 500 Now its here

06-03-2005, 12:53	#19
carefree Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Essex Posts: 1,044 Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Granted IF boot space is important then consider others (although the furby STILL isn't all that small) However, the driver/passenger space is definately roomy enough. __________________ '54' Black Magic Fabia vRS Yo Adrien I DID IT!!!

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