Faster and more economical than Fabia VRS?

clv101 · 07-03-2005, 18:10

Are there any cars faster and more economical than Fabis VRS? I'm thinking it would have to be very light petrols maybe... I mean a bike is. But are there any other diesels faster and more economical? Any other reasonable sized cars?

doer1 · 07-03-2005, 18:22

a chipped fabia.... a bit lower on the mpg

Dr Zoidberg · 07-03-2005, 18:48

I doubt you'd find many bikes that manage more than 50mpg and better accelleration than the furby.

WW_VRS · 07-03-2005, 19:11

You can get more economical cars for sure, but not with the same agility and size/spec. The Furby is not the lightest car in the world, esp. specced up (like mine) with toys.

For the money it's definitely worth considering though

anotherbadname · 07-03-2005, 20:15

ibiza tdi fr.

pbirkett · 07-03-2005, 20:37

But its not really any quicker (at least by any significant margin), or any more economical, and it certainly isnt cheaper...

cav-mad-gav · 07-03-2005, 23:59

and its dog ugly!

redbaron · 08-03-2005, 00:11

a remapped + well suspended 1.4tdi fabia... would lap quicker than a vRS purely on handling and power to weight.... and £2700 saving is more than enuf for the remap / coilovers.... and decent set of light 16" rims and A048 yokos.....

not that i have given the matter any thought.

rob1sp · 08-03-2005, 10:49

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Originally Posted by cav-mad-gav

and its dog ugly!

As opposed to the unbridled beauty of an L&K Octavia no doubt...

lozgti · 08-03-2005, 12:01

Is the ibiza tdi fr just a three door?

I prefer 5 in all honestly.Some people think that detracts from a car looking sporty" ooh 3 doors,it must fly ".Don't think so

.Far more useful and practical with 5 doors

Found the ibiza bit cramped too.Prefer a nice Leon

Snielz · 08-03-2005, 12:30

Ibi Fr comes with 5 or 3 doors.

In Holland it is cheaper than a Furby RS. But there are only like 20 Furby RS´s in Holland, so you pay to be exclusive.

clv101 · 08-03-2005, 13:53

So is the answer no? There aren't any cars available that are both faster and more economical than a Fabia VRS? Surely that's quite a clame to fame... why isn't it specifically mentioned in reviews... by Skoda themselves?

lozgti · 08-03-2005, 14:01

I think thats only ten of us with suggestions ( or not!)though.

Think vauxhall do a diesel version of the VX220 which might,just,wipe the floor with the fabia

(not a production car though.Think they are just showing what can be done with the smelly expensive stuff

)

**robmawer** · 08-03-2005, 14:31

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Originally Posted by clv101

There aren't any cars available that are both faster and more economical than a Fabia VRS?

Depends what you mean by faster and more economical.
Is that fast as in point-to-point urban driving, point-to-point non-urban driving, 0-60, 0-100, 30-50, top speed, etc.?
And is economy purely based on fuel consumption, ignoring running costs?
And is that economy based on the book values, or real-world values, urban or extra-urban, or combined, empty of laden down with six large suitcases, etc?

I know of an Octy vRS which could manage 60mpg on a motorway cruise, yet still be capable of destroying most things on track...

Rob.

SteVRs · 08-03-2005, 15:25

Daihatsu do some silly turbo things with really small engines, YRV 130 or something. Probably slower and undoubtedly crapper and worse economy.

Just wanted to take the pi*s out of them really!

**robmawer** · 08-03-2005, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteVRs

Daihatsu do some silly turbo things with really small engines, YRV 130 or something. Probably slower and undoubtedly crapper and worse economy.

Hmm...lighter cars (and definitely less nose-heavy), Japanese reliability, and quite a bit cheaper to buy. Wouldn't be surprised if they were actually nicer drives and worked out cheaper to run unless you were doing serious miles...

Rob.

SteVRs · 08-03-2005, 16:12

I actually drove one, and an Ignis sport (Suzuki) - bloody abysmal! The YRV isn't actually that quick, and is auto only??? and the Ignis needs the nuts spanking off it to get any speed up.

A proper 'hot hatch' has to have a good size engine and lots of torque.

**robmawer** · 08-03-2005, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteVRs

A proper 'hot hatch' has to have a good size engine and lots of torque.

I thought it was lorries which had to have good sized-engines and lots of torque? Hot hatches just had to be exciting to drive...

Rob.

Dutch4x4 · 08-03-2005, 16:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffelan

a remapped + well suspended 1.4tdi fabia... would lap quicker than a vRS purely on handling and power to weight.... and £2700 saving is more than enuf for the remap / coilovers.... and decent set of light 16" rims and A048 yokos.....

Please elaborate, Paul...

And seriously, what kind of power and torque would be attainable? I'm thinking 100hp and 245Nm here.

And what difference would the 100kgs less weight make on the car's understeering character? But then why not go for a 1.9 TDI Fabia? That also weighs in at 1120 kgs and can be remapped to at least 130hp...

I fondly remember my early-90s Civic 1.6i with no power steering and a clean 922kgs - the steering precision was phenomenal. Why can't we have cars like that anymore?

ScoobyChris · 08-03-2005, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch4x4

But then why not go for a 1.9 TDI Fabia? That also weighs in at 1120 kgs and can be remapped to at least 130hp...

I did

Chris

07-03-2005, 18:10	#1
clv101 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Faster and more economical than Fabia VRS? Are there any cars faster and more economical than Fabis VRS? I'm thinking it would have to be very light petrols maybe... I mean a bike is. But are there any other diesels faster and more economical? Any other reasonable sized cars?

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WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,733 Thanks: 44 Thanked 68 Times in 59 Posts	You can get more economical cars for sure, but not with the same agility and size/spec. The Furby is not the lightest car in the world, esp. specced up (like mine) with toys. For the money it's definitely worth considering though __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there)

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cav-mad-gav Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nottingham, East Midlands Posts: 350 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	and its dog ugly!

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redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,261 Thanks: 9 Thanked 51 Times in 46 Posts	a remapped + well suspended 1.4tdi fabia... would lap quicker than a vRS purely on handling and power to weight.... and £2700 saving is more than enuf for the remap / coilovers.... and decent set of light 16" rims and A048 yokos..... not that i have given the matter any thought. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

08-03-2005, 12:01	#10
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,614 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Is the ibiza tdi fr just a three door? I prefer 5 in all honestly.Some people think that detracts from a car looking sporty" ooh 3 doors,it must fly ".Don't think so .Far more useful and practical with 5 doors Found the ibiza bit cramped too.Prefer a nice Leon

08-03-2005, 12:30	#11
Snielz Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ibi Fr comes with 5 or 3 doors. In Holland it is cheaper than a Furby RS. But there are only like 20 Furby RS´s in Holland, so you pay to be exclusive.

08-03-2005, 13:53	#12
clv101 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bristol Posts: 268 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So is the answer no? There aren't any cars available that are both faster and more economical than a Fabia VRS? Surely that's quite a clame to fame... why isn't it specifically mentioned in reviews... by Skoda themselves?

08-03-2005, 14:01	#13
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,614 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	I think thats only ten of us with suggestions ( or not!)though. Think vauxhall do a diesel version of the VX220 which might,just,wipe the floor with the fabia (not a production car though.Think they are just showing what can be done with the smelly expensive stuff )

08-03-2005, 15:25	#15
SteVRs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 3,063 Thanks: 4 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Daihatsu do some silly turbo things with really small engines, YRV 130 or something. Probably slower and undoubtedly crapper and worse economy. Just wanted to take the pi*s out of them really!

08-03-2005, 16:12	#17
SteVRs Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 3,063 Thanks: 4 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	I actually drove one, and an Ignis sport (Suzuki) - bloody abysmal! The YRV isn't actually that quick, and is auto only??? and the Ignis needs the nuts spanking off it to get any speed up. A proper 'hot hatch' has to have a good size engine and lots of torque.

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