Fuel Economy & Cam Belts

Fabia1.4 · 24-05-2007, 12:49

Hi

I wonder if you good people could give me some advice.

I have recently just bought a 2nd hand Fabia 1.4mpi W reg 2000 and thought that Fabia's would be good on fuel but round town I am only getting about 25mpg and even on a run just over 30mpg. Fair enough on the run I was doing 80mph which isn't great for fuel but still thought it would be better.
Do these figures sound right if so then fair enough but I was shocked at how low they were especially when your used to a 106 doing 45mpg.

One other thing does anyone know if this model has a Cam Belt?
Some people say it has and some say it hasn't and has the chain instead so not sure.

any advice would be great

Cheers

TeflonTom · 24-05-2007, 12:50

the mpi models have a chain instead of a belt

Fabia1.4 · 24-05-2007, 12:58

Which I was hoping but I just seen the below on another post on the forum more confused than ever.

42.2mpg I wish!!!!!

1.4 16v petrol engine - 100 bhp
The 16-valve 1.4 litre engine is an advanced unit displacing 1390cc and developing 100 bhp @ 6,000 rpm. Peak torque of 126 Nm is reached @ 4,400 rpm. This engine also has a light alloy cylinder head and block for low weight, but differs completely in its technical specification to the 8-valve unit. It utilises a belt driven double overhead camshaft with four valves per cylinder and also has multi-point fuel injection and electronic ignition that
conforms to the EUIV directive.
The engine revs freely and gives the Fabia a potential maximum speed of 115 mph, with 0-62 taking 11.5 seconds. The 16v is just as economical,
returning 42.2 mpg over the EU combined cycle.

TeflonTom · 24-05-2007, 13:10

yeah, the 16v ones(vw engine) have a belt... two belts in fact.

the mpi ones (skoda engine) has a chain

they all have multi-point injection, and both of the engines mentioned have aluminum engine block and head

Fabia1.4 · 24-05-2007, 13:14

[quote=TeflonTom;926134]yeah, the 16v ones(vw engine) have a belt... two belts in fact.

the mpi ones (skoda engine) has a chain

Ok cheers

Sure it's an MPI but you got me thinking now (I'm not very mechanical minded as you can tell)

Tom_vRS · 24-05-2007, 13:22

Does yours have a 16v badge? If not then it is the MPI with a chain.

Fabia1.4 · 24-05-2007, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

Does yours have a 16v badge? If not then it is the MPI with a chain.

Just been to check and the badge on the back of the car says

1.4
mpi

so looks like I am ok

Cheers fellas

P.S. so far so good with the car no complaints, pesonally though think the acceleration isn't to clever and in 2nd gear at lowish revs can get a funny juddering (but not as if it's going to stall) so have to up the revs a bit at times.

Now then just need to go and learn to drive more efficently

Fabia1.4 · 29-05-2007, 10:38

Looks like I am ok and it is a chain I guessed I had the MPI when I lifted the bonet and it was plastered all over the cover of the engine

(really should pay more attention)

I have just rung the local dealership up for some advice on a few matters and why is it as soon as they know you didn't buy the car from them they are so un helpful but soon changed his tune when he wanted to charge me for putting it on the diagnostic machine to find out while the fuel economy is so bad but before that he said he didn't even know what average mpg a Fabia should be doing!!!

Has anyone ever tried that redex? I was going to give it a try this week don't think it is going to be the answer to all my problems but was wondering how big an improvment if any it makes.

Was reading some of the Stutter thread before pinned at the top did anything ever get sorted with it?

Cheers

(Rant over about the dealership)

Dmac1969 · 29-05-2007, 13:28

Redex can't hurt (try the fuel injector cleaner) or try any fuel system treatment out of Halfrauds and the like , but I do think your car has some sort of problem , as mine (same engine as yours) gets an easy 36mpg in town when warm , and gets mid to high 40's on a run (and thats with going 80 plus MPH at times , when I'm on narrow twisting roads with lower average speeds I've seen 50+ MPG on the computer readout!)

Dmac1969 · 29-05-2007, 13:32

Ps - easy way to check if its an 8v or 16v , the 8v is 1397cc , whereas the 16V is 1390cc , this should be printed on your V5C Logbook.

24-05-2007, 12:49	#1
Fabia1.4 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 230 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Fuel Economy & Cam Belts Hi I wonder if you good people could give me some advice. I have recently just bought a 2nd hand Fabia 1.4mpi W reg 2000 and thought that Fabia's would be good on fuel but round town I am only getting about 25mpg and even on a run just over 30mpg. Fair enough on the run I was doing 80mph which isn't great for fuel but still thought it would be better. Do these figures sound right if so then fair enough but I was shocked at how low they were especially when your used to a 106 doing 45mpg. One other thing does anyone know if this model has a Cam Belt? Some people say it has and some say it hasn't and has the chain instead so not sure. any advice would be great Cheers

24-05-2007, 12:50	#2
TeflonTom Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,372 Thanks: 26 Thanked 161 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts the mpi models have a chain instead of a belt __________________

24-05-2007, 12:58	#3
Fabia1.4 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 230 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts Which I was hoping but I just seen the below on another post on the forum more confused than ever. 42.2mpg I wish!!!!! 1.4 16v petrol engine - 100 bhp The 16-valve 1.4 litre engine is an advanced unit displacing 1390cc and developing 100 bhp @ 6,000 rpm. Peak torque of 126 Nm is reached @ 4,400 rpm. This engine also has a light alloy cylinder head and block for low weight, but differs completely in its technical specification to the 8-valve unit. It utilises a belt driven double overhead camshaft with four valves per cylinder and also has multi-point fuel injection and electronic ignition that conforms to the EUIV directive. The engine revs freely and gives the Fabia a potential maximum speed of 115 mph, with 0-62 taking 11.5 seconds. The 16v is just as economical, returning 42.2 mpg over the EU combined cycle.

24-05-2007, 13:10	#4
TeflonTom Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,372 Thanks: 26 Thanked 161 Times in 137 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts yeah, the 16v ones(vw engine) have a belt... two belts in fact. the mpi ones (skoda engine) has a chain they all have multi-point injection, and both of the engines mentioned have aluminum engine block and head __________________

24-05-2007, 13:14	#5
Fabia1.4 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 230 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts [quote=TeflonTom;926134]yeah, the 16v ones(vw engine) have a belt... two belts in fact. the mpi ones (skoda engine) has a chain Ok cheers Sure it's an MPI but you got me thinking now (I'm not very mechanical minded as you can tell)

24-05-2007, 13:22	#6
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,716 Thanks: 556 Thanked 361 Times in 243 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts Does yours have a 16v badge? If not then it is the MPI with a chain. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

29-05-2007, 10:38	#8
Fabia1.4 Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 230 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts Looks like I am ok and it is a chain I guessed I had the MPI when I lifted the bonet and it was plastered all over the cover of the engine (really should pay more attention) I have just rung the local dealership up for some advice on a few matters and why is it as soon as they know you didn't buy the car from them they are so un helpful but soon changed his tune when he wanted to charge me for putting it on the diagnostic machine to find out while the fuel economy is so bad but before that he said he didn't even know what average mpg a Fabia should be doing!!! Has anyone ever tried that redex? I was going to give it a try this week don't think it is going to be the answer to all my problems but was wondering how big an improvment if any it makes. Was reading some of the Stutter thread before pinned at the top did anything ever get sorted with it? Cheers (Rant over about the dealership)

29-05-2007, 13:28	#9
Dmac1969 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Berwick upon Tweed , Northumberland , The Northernmost Town in England , home of the mighty 'Dream Team' , Berwick Rangers FC! Also home of 'The Barrels Alehouse' purveyor of Staropramen Czech Beer , I wouldnt give a xxxx for anything else!! ;) Posts: 2,393 Thanks: 18 Thanked 53 Times in 40 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts Redex can't hurt (try the fuel injector cleaner) or try any fuel system treatment out of Halfrauds and the like , but I do think your car has some sort of problem , as mine (same engine as yours) gets an easy 36mpg in town when warm , and gets mid to high 40's on a run (and thats with going 80 plus MPH at times , when I'm on narrow twisting roads with lower average speeds I've seen 50+ MPG on the computer readout!) __________________ Duncan - England's most Northerly Briskodian! 2000/V reg Fabia 1.4 Mpi Comfort-Dynamic Blue Ex Octavia vRS and Octavia Slxi 1.8T.

29-05-2007, 13:32	#10
Dmac1969 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Berwick upon Tweed , Northumberland , The Northernmost Town in England , home of the mighty 'Dream Team' , Berwick Rangers FC! Also home of 'The Barrels Alehouse' purveyor of Staropramen Czech Beer , I wouldnt give a xxxx for anything else!! ;) Posts: 2,393 Thanks: 18 Thanked 53 Times in 40 Posts	Re: Fuel Economy & Cam Belts Ps - easy way to check if its an 8v or 16v , the 8v is 1397cc , whereas the 16V is 1390cc , this should be printed on your V5C Logbook. __________________ Duncan - England's most Northerly Briskodian! 2000/V reg Fabia 1.4 Mpi Comfort-Dynamic Blue Ex Octavia vRS and Octavia Slxi 1.8T.

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