Mods and the stutter on vRS

Yella Fella · 30-07-2007, 13:08

Hey guys,

Whats the consensus state on with regards to modding the vRS, does the stutter remain on 06 + models?

I have read about 25 pages of that fixed stutter issue, but just wanting to know in terms of modding

I was thinking at looking at changing to the 9mm gasket, PD 160 intakes (any pics on this?) and is it the green air filter that people are getting? (again please recommend and pics if poss). Hopefully this should iron out any immediate issues. If coming to MOT time, I can always change the gasket back to the standard issued one right?

Chrispy · 30-07-2007, 13:17

I have no idea what you've just asked in your post....I was too busy staring at your Avatar. Mmmmmm..........

ScoobyChris · 30-07-2007, 13:28

If you're not worried about emissions then could you simply replace the gasket with a blanking plate? This would stop the EGR valve recirculating gases without physically removing it?

I was also surprised that not all remaps get rid of the stutter.

Nice avatar by the way

Chris

simtub · 30-07-2007, 13:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrispy

I have no idea what you've just asked in your post....I was too busy staring at your Avatar. Mmmmmm..........

LOL!!!

Chrispy · 30-07-2007, 13:33

If the map doesn't touch the EGR valve setting them it will remain. Me and John looked at mine yesterday....the standard setting is 70%......that didn't last long.

That's on an 04 ASZ engine by the way. The BLT must be even higher.

Yella Fella · 30-07-2007, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrispy

If the map doesn't touch the EGR valve setting them it will remain. Me and John looked at mine yesterday....the standard setting is 70%......that didn't last long.

That's on an 04 ASZ engine by the way. The BLT must be even higher.

you actually got around changing the EGR? from the fixed thread, i read that some garages can turn EGR off or something? Just thinking about MOT time

ScoobyChris · 30-07-2007, 13:55

You can adjust the EGR valve via VAG-COM and you can set it to minimum, but it's still on. There was some discussion a while back (think it was Ross) who said that it didn't really make any difference, but I can't remember now....

Chris

Chrispy · 30-07-2007, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yella Fella

you actually got around changing the EGR? from the fixed thread, i read that some garages can turn EGR off or something? Just thinking about MOT time

Yeah, the EGR was replaced on my car last Friday under warranty. As soon as that was done me and John looked into turning it down so it would have less chance of failing again. The original setting was at something like 70% recirculation and we turned that down to 30% I think. From what I've heard it reduces smoke a little and should make the car a bit better on fuel judging by the science (hotter combustion temps = more power extracted from the fuel injected and less unburnt going out the exhaust).

If the car stutters then it's simply recirculating too much exhaust gas. Fitting a smaller gasket physically forces the valve to let in less, and turning it down lets the ECU control how much less it lets in. A map probably wont touch the EGR setting unless it's specified and it'll still be banging in at least 70% of exhaust gas samples.

Yella Fella · 30-07-2007, 15:06

ok without going to indepth, any skoda garage can just turn the EGR down via VAG-COM? they be ok with that?

plus by doing so, that will mean that you wont need the smaller gasket? part no. 028 131 547 B ?

with that asside, first initial mods that people recommend, that be the PD160 intake (is this like an airbox replacement? and is it a green air filter? any pics of the parts appreciated

Chrispy · 30-07-2007, 15:12

I doubt a Skoda garage would agree to turn it down, and they definitely wont use VAG-COM. They 'may' agree to fit the smaller gasket but the stutter will still be there, only less pronounced and it will no longer be covered under warranty.

To cut a long story short, a Skoda dealer can't/ wont help you on this.

Yella Fella · 30-07-2007, 15:21

how did u get to turn it down then

Chrispy · 30-07-2007, 15:28

My mate has a copy of VAG-COM....we did it ourselves.

VAG-COM is publicly available software for use on VAG cars (costs around £100 IIRC). You buy the USB lead off eBay.

A dealer will use their own software, pukka VAG stuff, not VAG-COM.

Yella Fella · 31-07-2007, 01:34

sort us out?

lol

Chrispy · 31-07-2007, 07:39

I'm sure there'll be someone in your area (Milton Keynes?) with VAG-COM that'll be willing to give you a hand. Useful stuff.

30-07-2007, 13:08	#1
Yella Fella Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 156 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Mods and the stutter on vRS Hey guys, Whats the consensus state on with regards to modding the vRS, does the stutter remain on 06 + models? I have read about 25 pages of that fixed stutter issue, but just wanting to know in terms of modding I was thinking at looking at changing to the 9mm gasket, PD 160 intakes (any pics on this?) and is it the green air filter that people are getting? (again please recommend and pics if poss). Hopefully this should iron out any immediate issues. If coming to MOT time, I can always change the gasket back to the standard issued one right? __________________ Ed - vRS mother! and leave the avatar chick alone

30-07-2007, 13:17	#2
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS I have no idea what you've just asked in your post....I was too busy staring at your Avatar. Mmmmmm.......... __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

30-07-2007, 13:28	#3
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,127 Thanks: 15 Thanked 327 Times in 285 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS If you're not worried about emissions then could you simply replace the gasket with a blanking plate? This would stop the EGR valve recirculating gases without physically removing it? I was also surprised that not all remaps get rid of the stutter. Nice avatar by the way Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

30-07-2007, 13:33	#5
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS If the map doesn't touch the EGR valve setting them it will remain. Me and John looked at mine yesterday....the standard setting is 70%......that didn't last long. That's on an 04 ASZ engine by the way. The BLT must be even higher. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

30-07-2007, 13:55	#7
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,127 Thanks: 15 Thanked 327 Times in 285 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS You can adjust the EGR valve via VAG-COM and you can set it to minimum, but it's still on. There was some discussion a while back (think it was Ross) who said that it didn't really make any difference, but I can't remember now.... Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

30-07-2007, 15:06	#9
Yella Fella Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 156 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS ok without going to indepth, any skoda garage can just turn the EGR down via VAG-COM? they be ok with that? plus by doing so, that will mean that you wont need the smaller gasket? part no. 028 131 547 B ? with that asside, first initial mods that people recommend, that be the PD160 intake (is this like an airbox replacement? and is it a green air filter? any pics of the parts appreciated __________________ Ed - vRS mother! and leave the avatar chick alone

30-07-2007, 15:12	#10
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS I doubt a Skoda garage would agree to turn it down, and they definitely wont use VAG-COM. They 'may' agree to fit the smaller gasket but the stutter will still be there, only less pronounced and it will no longer be covered under warranty. To cut a long story short, a Skoda dealer can't/ wont help you on this. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

30-07-2007, 15:21	#11
Yella Fella Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 156 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS how did u get to turn it down then __________________ Ed - vRS mother! and leave the avatar chick alone

30-07-2007, 15:28	#12
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS My mate has a copy of VAG-COM....we did it ourselves. VAG-COM is publicly available software for use on VAG cars (costs around £100 IIRC). You buy the USB lead off eBay. A dealer will use their own software, pukka VAG stuff, not VAG-COM. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

31-07-2007, 01:34	#13
Yella Fella Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 156 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS sort us out? lol __________________ Ed - vRS mother! and leave the avatar chick alone

31-07-2007, 07:39	#14
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Mods and the stutter on vRS I'm sure there'll be someone in your area (Milton Keynes?) with VAG-COM that'll be willing to give you a hand. Useful stuff. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

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