MORE - What engine oil should I use for my Fabia vRS?

[aixlad]

What engine oil should I use for my Fabia vRS?
You must use an oil which meets specification VW 505 01. The following oils are approved to that specification:

BP Special Visco V 5W-40 (fully synthetic)
Castrol GTD 505 01 5W-40
DEA Ultec Diesel SAE 5W-40
Delphi Prestige Diesel Plus 5W-40 (synthetic-based)
Esso 505 01 5W-40
Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL PD SAE 5W-40 (fully synthetic)
Granville Topaz Diesel 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)
Madit 505 01
Migrol Special S-Plus
Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)
Motul 6100 5W-40
OMV syn com diesel
Q8 Formula Excel 5w40 (fully synthetic)
Shell Helix Diesel Plus VA 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)
VAG-branded 505 01 505 00 High Lubricity Engine Oil 5W-40 - G 052 167 A2
Valvoline DuraBlend Diesel SAE 5W-40 (semi-synthetic)
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Denis

Not wanting to be ripped off by paying £10-£12 per litre for VAG branded 505.01 for my vRS, I did a bit of research and found this list, apparently all suitable for TDI PD engines. I chose Millers XFE-PD at £21.99 for 5 litres from my friendly local car accessory shop. A bargain?


Firma Bezeichnung SAE-Klasse VW-Norm(en)
AD Parts AD SDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Addinol Addinol Light MV 0546 PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Agip Agip 7004 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Aral Aral Tronic 431 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Avia Avia Turbo CFE PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Bucher AG Motorex Profile V-XL SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Castrol Castrol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Castrol Castrol GTD 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Cepsa Cepsa Star TDI synt SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Chevron Havoline 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Conqord ROLOIL 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
DEA DEA Ultec Diesel SYN SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
DEA DEA Viscobil ST SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Delek Israel Delkol IDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Denicol Motor Oils Denicol Pro Syn 4 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Elf Elf Excellium DID SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Esso Esso 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Eurolub (Hunold) Eurolub Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
FL Italia Pulsar Progress SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
FL Italia Selenia Performer SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Fuchs Motorenoel G052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Labo Syntha High Tech Synthese SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Motorenoel G 052 167 02 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Fuchs Titan Supersyn SL-F SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Ginouves York 742 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Hunold Hunold Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Igol Igol Process 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Kuttenkeuler Sorotec Pdi SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Kuwait Petroleum Q8 Motoroil 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Liqui Moly Liqui Moly Diesel High Tech SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Meguin megol Motorenoel Super Leichtlauf Technology SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Millers Oils Millers XFE-PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Mobil Mobil Syst S Special V SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Mobil Mobil TD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Molyslide Molyslide Formula L2 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Motul Motul 6100 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Oest Mineralölwerk Oest Leichtlauföl 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
PAZ Champion Oil 50501 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Pentosin Pentosynth 5W-40 TS* SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Petrogal Galp Formula 505 Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Repsol Repsol Elite 505.01 TDI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Rowe Rowe Synth PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Shell Shell 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Slovnaft Madit 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Sonol Sonol Synt 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Statoil Statoil Superway SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Sun Oil Sunoco Ultra semi synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Suomen Petrooli OY Teboil Diamond SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
SWD swd Primus Synth. SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Tamoil Sint Future Extra SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
TD Lubrifiants AVIA TDi 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Teboil Teboil Diamond Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Total Total Quartz 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Unil Opal Unil Opal Opaljet 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Diesel Turbo motot oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline High Performance Diesel motor oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Valvoline Diesel Turbo Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Valvoline Valvoline High Performance Diesel Motor Oil SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Vaps Vapsoil PD 540 Spezial SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Veedol Veedol 505 01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Westfalen AG Westfalen Megatron SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Wolf Wolf Masterlube Synflow PI SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Würth Würth Triathlon Special PD SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Yacco Yacco Spéciale SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Yacco Yacco VX 505 Diesel SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501
Zeller+Gmelin Divinol Syntholight 505.01 SAE 5W-40 50000/50500/50501

[redbaron]

wow finally a Fabia driver that a: read DGW's informative posts... AND user the tinterweb!



assume many of those are not UK products.... but then some of our users are not UK based....

[dsemuk]

aixlad I challenge you to find any of those vw505.01 spec. oils anywhere other than at your local VAG retailer

Millers seems to be the only brand which has any sort of distribution in The UK, even so retail distributors seem to be few and far between.

Role on the new VAG oil specs.

[aixlad]

For those interested in changing their Engine Oil and Filter (I always do this every 5,000 miles) -

Oil Filter p/n 071115562A = £5.52
Sump Plug p/n N90813201 = £0.96
5 Litres Millers XFE-PD = £21.99

Total cost, including VAT, to change Engine Oil = £28.47

Take your used oil to your local recycle centre

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by dsemuk

aixlad I challenge you to find any of those vw505.01 spec. oils anywhere other than at your local VAG retailer

Millers seems to be the only brand which has any sort of distribution in The UK, even so retail distributors seem to be few and far between.

Role on the new VAG oil specs.

I agree, Firma Bezeichnung SAE-Klasse, Hunold Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 or Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD may be difficult to obtain, however, most towns and cities have numerous ESSO, Mobil, Chevron, Total, Elf, Kuwait and Shell outlets who could possibly obtain their branded 505.01 oil for you, and Castrol and Valvoline are household names who will have distributors. You just need to look around, it will save you £30

[dsemuk]

Originally Posted by aixlad

I agree, Firma Bezeichnung SAE-Klasse, Hunold Synt PDI SAE 5W-40 or Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb Ravenol VPD may be difficult to obtain, however, most towns and cities have numerous ESSO, Mobil, Chevron, Total, Elf, Kuwait and Shell outlets who could possibly obtain their branded 505.01 oil for you, and Castrol and Valvoline are household names who will have distributors. You just need to look around, it will save you £30

I've looked around for the last 12 months/15k miles of Fabia vrs ownership, each time I fill up with fuel I check the range of lubricants available. Even though I fill up at many different branded fuel outlets, so far I've not found a single product on the shelf which meets VW505.01

As I said Millers is probably the easiest VW505.01 spec. oil to find in a retail outlet, but it isn't widespread.

[JUT]

Can't be arsed to hunt for my earlier post about it myself, but if you know of a Q8 petrol station in your area they sell 505.01 oil in there for about £21 for 5 litres. I have it

[Lummox]

Originally Posted by aixlad

Oil Filter p/n S071115562A = £5.52
Sump Plug p/n SN90813201 = £0.96

No 's' on the front of them part numbers normally. I believe you got the from Pillings? If so they add the S for Skoda as they book both 'M'azda and 'S'koda parts out on the same system. I asked about it when I ordered some parts before.

[JUT]

Also, I intend to change oil between service intervals as I have always found it to be of benefit on turbocharged cars. I used to do it on the nissan every 3-4k. What sort of intervals do people on here change it at? And, lastly and most strangely, if it's a cartridge type filter rather than a sealed unit, is there a steel surface inside it to which a strong magnet could be mounted?

[Lummox]

Originally Posted by JUT

if it's a cartridge type filter rather than a sealed unit, is there a steel surface inside it to which a strong magnet could be mounted?

Its a paper element, and the housing is all aluminium.

[bertJ]

Out of interest, has anyone ever bought 505.01 oil from a Ford dealer? Some versions of the Galaxy are fitted with VAG pdi engines so will require this oil.

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by Lummox

No 's' on the front of them part numbers normally. I believe you got the from Pillings? If so they add the S for Skoda as they book both 'M'azda and 'S'koda parts out on the same system. I asked about it when I ordered some parts before.

Correct , Pillings in MK. I took these numbers straight off the invoice.

[JUT]

Oh yeah, one more question, does the sump plug have any new fangled releasing key or is it a standard socket set jobbie?

[JUT]

Ah, found my old post...

Q8 Formula Excel 5w40 Very High Performance synthetic motor oil 505.01 spec

Available in a Q8 petrol station near you....

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by JUT

Oh yeah, one more question, does the sump plug have any new fangled releasing key or is it a standard socket set jobbie?

Standard Hex, 19mm a/f

[fab16v]

Originally Posted by JUT

Ah, found my old post...

Q8 Formula Excel 5w40 Very High Performance synthetic motor oil 505.01 spec

Available in a Q8 petrol station near you....

Will have to keep my eyes open for this. Not seen a Q8 station round here. Though I haven't looked in the past.

[JUT]

Originally Posted by fab16v

Will have to keep my eyes open for this. Not seen a Q8 station round here. Though I haven't looked in the past.

Yeah, annoyingly there don't seem to be any around our neck of the woods :-(

[oilman]

Take a look here:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showt...=oil+group+buy

Cheers
Guy

[JUT]

Originally Posted by oilman

Take a look here:

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showt...=oil+group+buy

Cheers
Guy

Frustratingly, I did an oil change on Saturday. I only had 4L so ended up trekking to my local VW garage and paying £33 for 5L of PD oil (refused to buy 1L @ £12 on general principal) in order to finish the change. Couldn't afford to wait as had many miles to cover yesterday and didn't want to do it with the oil registering below minimum on the dipstick

EDIT: My vRS also seems to take 5L of oil, not 4.5. Thirsty creeature it is...

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by JUT

Frustratingly, I did an oil change on Saturday. I only had 4L so ended up trekking to my local VW garage and paying £33 for 5L of PD oil (refused to buy 1L @ £12 on general principal) in order to finish the change. Couldn't afford to wait as had many miles to cover yesterday and didn't want to do it with the oil registering below minimum on the dipstick

EDIT: My vRS also seems to take 5L of oil, not 4.5. Thirsty creeature it is...

If 5L of PD oil costs £33, and 1L of PD oil costs £12, then five 1L bottles will cost an impressive £60 When I have my car serviced, I just wonder which option they will choose; the 5L at £33, or the 5x1L bottles at £60. I think it will be prudent to relieve them of this complex decision by taking them a 5L can of XFE-PD to use, at £21.99.

[JUT]

Originally Posted by aixlad

If 5L of PD oil costs £33, and 1L of PD oil costs £12, then five 1L bottles will cost an impressive £60 When I have my car serviced, I just wonder which option they will choose; the 5L at £33, or the 5x1L bottles at £60. I think it will be prudent to relieve them of this complex decision by taking them a 5L can of XFE-PD to use, at £21.99.

It shouldn't be either - they will have the massive 20 gallon (or whatever it is) drums of it - but I think they charge about £6.95 per litre from the drum...

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by JUT

It shouldn't be either - they will have the massive 20 gallon (or whatever it is) drums of it - but I think they charge about £6.95 per litre from the drum...

At £6.95 a litre it's even more expensive than buying a 5 litre can