Question about Eibach springs

Dave_Fox · 06-10-2005, 23:17

First thing- got my springs today from courtesy of the GB and Jabbasport. Thanks very much to everyone involved with that, dead straight forward and of course a nice discount

In the box there are two thick ring type things-

Me and a mate are going to be fitting the springs, so need to know what these are! Any ideas?

Oh and heres a sneak preview of the new alloys ive got aswell

(Whoops didnt realise the pic was that big)

devonutopia · 06-10-2005, 23:24

I never had anything like that with my eibachs, from memory.

Just sat in the cup as the OEM springs did. Not sure if its any way related to the top of the springs though.

Dave_Fox · 06-10-2005, 23:29

They have a small grub screw, so they must tighten up against something....

devonutopia · 06-10-2005, 23:36

Might be to do with bump stops. The diameter of the hole in the middle looks pretty similar to the bore of the suspension strut itself. Like I said, nothing came with mine like that. Edit: Actually after looking at carpet grain, they look tiny! I'm still befuddled then.

We just spring clamped the old springs, undid the top, put new springs in and did up again. Rears were a doddle of course as not part of the strut.

Dave_Fox · 06-10-2005, 23:55

The inside diameter is about 20mm so they are quite small (sorry- naff picture really) Ive fitted springs alone on my previous car and like you say they're a direct replacement for the old springs; with no other bits to add.

Might have been put in the box by mistake..??

Cheers again Jason, mr suspension expert

chowy · 07-10-2005, 09:06

Just had mine fitted by Jabba yesterday with a remap and the transformation is fantastic! So much more confidence into the corners! Ride is only marginally worse IMO and it looks soooo much better -25mm down!

PS Wheels look good Dave

devonutopia · 07-10-2005, 09:10

Don't call me that

, but I have tried the following so far during furby ownership

Eibachs on standard dampers (TDI)
Eibachs on Eibach dampers (Pro-kit ones)
FK coilovers

drewy · 07-10-2005, 09:53

them wheels are very nice i was looking at ones like that for mine very nice
ref springs no idea lol

rsbspt · 07-10-2005, 10:42

Dave, can I make a suggestion? Could you ring Eibach UK and ask them what these items are? The number is 01455 286524 and ask for Julian Gill or Rob Hodgson. If these parts are intended to go with the springs, then everyone who's fitted Eibachs without them will want to know! Perhaps you would be kind enough to let us know what Eibach say. Cheers.

Dave_Fox · 07-10-2005, 11:25

Right just given them a ring and the lady knew exactly what I was talking about (Even before I said anything lol!) She then passed me onto another tech to explain.

They've got something to do with the steering- on a lowered car there's less room under the arches so could restrict the steering in some way. I wasnt told where they fitted to or how.

Eibach have put them in the box really to cover themselves in case there is a problem with the space under the arch. Tbh I dont think its anything to worry about- you lot have had yours with no problems, however he did say chassis differ slightly from car to car.

I'll just fit them and see what happens.

Hope this helps

ap0gee · 07-10-2005, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Fox

Right just given them a ring and the lady knew exactly what I was talking about (Even before I said anything lol!) She then passed me onto another tech to explain.

They've got something to do with the steering- on a lowered car there's less room under the arches so could restrict the steering in some way. I wasnt told where they fitted to or how.

Eibach have put them in the box really to cover themselves in case there is a problem with the space under the arch. Tbh I dont think its anything to worry about- you lot have had yours with no problems, however he did say chassis differ slightly from car to car.

I'll just fit them and see what happens.

Hope this helps

Sounds like they go around some part of the steering mechanism to decrease the number of turns before you reach the end stops (i.e. your turning circle is increased slightly.)

Could be wrong, though...

Martin Pick · 07-10-2005, 18:03

i`ve just been fitting my eibach springs and didn`t have those things in my kit. Just the springs. No probs of clearance anywhere.

WW_VRS · 07-10-2005, 18:14

I'd be surprised if it was needed, mainly as there are people with coilovers that are running WAY lower than with these Eibachs -

Anyone had anything done to their steering to avoid rubbing?

devonutopia · 07-10-2005, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_VRS

Anyone had anything done to their steering to avoid rubbing?

Don't steer.

But that is a semi-serious answer. When I was running mine lower at the front than I have now, I had rubbing when I cornered at speed on good lock. basically the way around it was either slow down or don't lock over so much.

Now I've raised the front to protect the guardless sump, I don't get any rubbing issues at all, and I'm sure I'm still an inch(ish) lower than eibachs alone do?

WW_VRS · 07-10-2005, 18:56

I was gonna post something about turning off ASR/ESP & using the handbrake, but I won't go there

Mine will get the Eibachs springs/dampers but it won't be lowered any further than that - mainly as I kinda want to avoid going even further down the spending path

alexst · 08-10-2005, 11:19

Me to, springs first, see how that is then maybe later dampers to, seems that some poeple on here have reported good things about having just the springs.

WW_VRS · 08-10-2005, 12:07

Yeah - from what I understand the springs will cause a little bit of a drop, about an inch, due to the way they're wound. Should sort out the handling very nicely, and I'm really hoping it will stop the front wheels from being quite so jumpy under braking.

There is a stretch of road just before the first roundabout you 'hit' when going into Bracknell (from A329(M)) where for some reason the yellow 'slow down' lines have not been painted, but instead 'cut' into the road surface, so it's a lot more bouncy than it should be. Kinda thinking it will help a bit there (must say it must be a nightmare for bikers, as it gets very slippery).

The dampers should be a little better than standard but mainly they're designed as a set, dunno if they are more adjustable (but I won't fiddle with that anyway).

Dave_Fox · 08-10-2005, 13:40

Im stuck fitting the springs. The bit where you have to hammer the hub down to get the strut out. The hub wont go down far enough to get the strut out even though the strut itself is loose.

Any ideas what im doing wrong?

Shifty · 08-10-2005, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Off topic, but you have done a proper nice job with than front bumper mate.

Lummox · 08-10-2005, 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Fox

Im stuck fitting the springs. The bit where you have to hammer the hub down to get the strut out. The hub wont go down far enough to get the strut out even though the strut itself is loose.

Any ideas what im doing wrong?

Yeah try following the guide on here. You have to compress the spring so you can shorten the damper and they lift it out.

The propper hub spreader makes it easier to lift out aswell.

06-10-2005, 23:17	#1
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Question about Eibach springs First thing- got my springs today from courtesy of the GB and Jabbasport. Thanks very much to everyone involved with that, dead straight forward and of course a nice discount In the box there are two thick ring type things- Me and a mate are going to be fitting the springs, so need to know what these are! Any ideas? Oh and heres a sneak preview of the new alloys ive got aswell (Whoops didnt realise the pic was that big)

06-10-2005, 23:24	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,053 Thanks: 60 Thanked 272 Times in 222 Posts	I never had anything like that with my eibachs, from memory. Just sat in the cup as the OEM springs did. Not sure if its any way related to the top of the springs though. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

06-10-2005, 23:36	#4
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,053 Thanks: 60 Thanked 272 Times in 222 Posts	Might be to do with bump stops. The diameter of the hole in the middle looks pretty similar to the bore of the suspension strut itself. Like I said, nothing came with mine like that. Edit: Actually after looking at carpet grain, they look tiny! I'm still befuddled then. We just spring clamped the old springs, undid the top, put new springs in and did up again. Rears were a doddle of course as not part of the strut. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

07-10-2005, 09:06	#6
chowy Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 734 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Just had mine fitted by Jabba yesterday with a remap and the transformation is fantastic! So much more confidence into the corners! Ride is only marginally worse IMO and it looks soooo much better -25mm down! PS Wheels look good Dave __________________ Present: BMW 130i M Sport 2007 \| Titanium Silver (No need to use indicators no more ) Sadly gone: Skoda Fabia vRS 2005 \| Black Magic (for pleasure) Present: Skoda Octavia Ambiente 1.9 Tdi 2005 \| Diamond Silver (for work)

07-10-2005, 09:10	#7
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,053 Thanks: 60 Thanked 272 Times in 222 Posts	Don't call me that , but I have tried the following so far during furby ownership Eibachs on standard dampers (TDI) Eibachs on Eibach dampers (Pro-kit ones) FK coilovers __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

06-10-2005, 23:29	#3
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	They have a small grub screw, so they must tighten up against something....

06-10-2005, 23:55	#5
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	The inside diameter is about 20mm so they are quite small (sorry- naff picture really) Ive fitted springs alone on my previous car and like you say they're a direct replacement for the old springs; with no other bits to add. Might have been put in the box by mistake..?? Cheers again Jason, mr suspension expert

07-10-2005, 09:53	#8
drewy Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: north west uk Posts: 31 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	them wheels are very nice i was looking at ones like that for mine very nice ref springs no idea lol

07-10-2005, 10:42	#9
rsbspt Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: South East England Posts: 539 Thanks: 4 Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts	Dave, can I make a suggestion? Could you ring Eibach UK and ask them what these items are? The number is 01455 286524 and ask for Julian Gill or Rob Hodgson. If these parts *are* intended to go with the springs, then everyone who's fitted Eibachs without them will want to know! Perhaps you would be kind enough to let us know what Eibach say. Cheers. __________________ Phil Thomas Then: Red Fabia vRS: Not quite standard. Now: White Octavia vRS: Eibachs/FSDs - Milotec B pillars - Neuspeed shifter (thanx Stu!).

07-10-2005, 11:25	#10
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Right just given them a ring and the lady knew exactly what I was talking about (Even before I said anything lol!) She then passed me onto another tech to explain. They've got something to do with the steering- on a lowered car there's less room under the arches so could restrict the steering in some way. I wasnt told where they fitted to or how. Eibach have put them in the box really to cover themselves in case there is a problem with the space under the arch. Tbh I dont think its anything to worry about- you lot have had yours with no problems, however he did say chassis differ slightly from car to car. I'll just fit them and see what happens. Hope this helps

07-10-2005, 18:03	#12
Martin Pick Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: North East UK Posts: 174 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i`ve just been fitting my eibach springs and didn`t have those things in my kit. Just the springs. No probs of clearance anywhere. __________________ Volkswagon - A Skoda For People With Far Too Much Money maybe get an octavia, maybe not......

07-10-2005, 18:14	#13
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,684 Thanks: 43 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	I'd be surprised if it was needed, mainly as there are people with coilovers that are running WAY lower than with these Eibachs - Anyone had anything done to their steering to avoid rubbing? __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Fabia vRS alloys for sale incl tyres, spare wheel with tyre + spare tyre - make me an offer via PM

07-10-2005, 18:56	#15
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,684 Thanks: 43 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	I was gonna post something about turning off ASR/ESP & using the handbrake, but I won't go there Mine will get the Eibachs springs/dampers but it won't be lowered any further than that - mainly as I kinda want to avoid going even further down the spending path __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Fabia vRS alloys for sale incl tyres, spare wheel with tyre + spare tyre - make me an offer via PM

08-10-2005, 11:19	#16
alexst Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Halifax Posts: 528 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Me to, springs first, see how that is then maybe later dampers to, seems that some poeple on here have reported good things about having just the springs. __________________ Fajitas for dinner yum yum!

08-10-2005, 12:07	#17
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,684 Thanks: 43 Thanked 67 Times in 58 Posts	Yeah - from what I understand the springs will cause a little bit of a drop, about an inch, due to the way they're wound. Should sort out the handling very nicely, and I'm really hoping it will stop the front wheels from being quite so jumpy under braking. There is a stretch of road just before the first roundabout you 'hit' when going into Bracknell (from A329(M)) where for some reason the yellow 'slow down' lines have not been painted, but instead 'cut' into the road surface, so it's a lot more bouncy than it should be. Kinda thinking it will help a bit there (must say it must be a nightmare for bikers, as it gets very slippery). The dampers should be a little better than standard but mainly they're designed as a set, dunno if they are more adjustable (but I won't fiddle with that anyway). __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Fabia vRS alloys for sale incl tyres, spare wheel with tyre + spare tyre - make me an offer via PM

08-10-2005, 13:40	#18
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Im stuck fitting the springs. The bit where you have to hammer the hub down to get the strut out. The hub wont go down far enough to get the strut out even though the strut itself is loose. Any ideas what im doing wrong?

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