Warm Weather & the PD 130 Engine

Johnwg · 08-07-2005, 19:32

Is it just me

or is the old 130bhp PD TDi not fond of the warm weather that we have experienced in the North West today

. Drove to work this morning when it was cool and it was its usual fairly refined, smooth and powerful self

, drove home this evening and it was no where near as responsive and was chucking out a load more soot

JUT · 08-07-2005, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnwg

Is it just me

or is the old 130bhp PD TDi not fond of the warm weather that we have experienced in the North West today

. Drove to work this morning when it was cool and it was its usual fairly refined, smooth and powerful self

, drove home this evening and it was no where near as responsive and was chucking out a load more soot

I'm a shandy-drinking southern fairy but I agree

WW_VRS · 08-07-2005, 20:14

It's why I will be signing up for the FMIC GB as soon as Neo_VR has finished help testing it

ScoobyChris · 08-07-2005, 21:37

It's a result of heat soak. Either go for a FMIC or opt for a water-spray system to keep the existing intercooler ... er ... cooler

Chris

Dave_Fox · 08-07-2005, 22:26

Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance

beeftech · 08-07-2005, 23:20

Notice mine is lacking somewhat in the heat, but not noticed any excess soot!!!

Johnwg · 08-07-2005, 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Fox

Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance

Sure can mate..........

***Neo_VR*** · 08-07-2005, 23:33

Go on then... heres what ya need to cure it

Johnwg · 08-07-2005, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Go on then... heres what ya need to cure it

F'in Hell, how much extra weight does that add ????? Have no intention of upgrading my front suspension to something a-kin to that of a Challenger Tank !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Johnwg · 08-07-2005, 23:43

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Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

It's a result of heat soak.

Chris

What's that

Sounds like some sort of new bath foam from Radox !!!

***Neo_VR*** · 08-07-2005, 23:49

Its made out of alloy, so ill bet it weighs less than the original (small) sidemount item... it weighs about 2 or 3kg..

Its a front mounted intercooler. it cools the air that goes into the engine

Heatsoak is when the engine is affected by the heat of the air going into it.. because hot air is less dense, so doesnt combust as strongly, the engine has to start lowering turbo boost levels and fuelling to keep optimal running.. which to the driver feels like the engine is being lethargic and down on power..
my front mount cools the air alot, so everyday is like a ice cold winter morning for me.. car is always running at its most efficant

Johnwg · 08-07-2005, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Its made out of alloy, so ill bet it weighs less than the original (small) sidemount item... it weighs about 2 or 3kg..

Its a front mounted intercooler. it cools the air that goes into the engine

Sounds good, take it you had it custom built? Please forgive my lack of technical knowledge, as you probably can tell I'm no mechanic !! Take it that will make on hell of a difference then?

FabiaTDi · 08-07-2005, 23:56

Is that the 50mm depth version there Colin? - i see the mounting lugs seem to have been adjusted - looks better..

***Neo_VR*** · 09-07-2005, 00:04

Matt: yes it is the 50mm ver. mounting lugs are same, but the whole i/c is lower down.. leaves scope for adjustment

Johnwg:
no worries.. im not exactly up on the tecchy knowledge either.. it looks good and works well... this one is nearing 3x the capacity of the standard side mount.. Its not custom built, its the development model for Forge.. who will be running a briskoda group buy on them soon

FabiaTDi · 09-07-2005, 00:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

who will be running a briskoda group buy on them soon

this waiting is killing me.. lol!

***Neo_VR*** · 09-07-2005, 00:25

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Originally Posted by FabiaTDi

this waiting is killing me.. lol!

patience young padwan

We have to make sure its ready to unleash to the good briskodians..
its about getting a balance between cooling efficience without causing too much turbo lag.. it could swing either way at the moment.

beeftech · 09-07-2005, 00:30

Mmmm BFOFMIC!!! Me Want

Mort · 09-07-2005, 00:32

If possible, please keep testing until my bank account is healthy enough to have my name on the Group Buy.

WW_VRS · 09-07-2005, 08:38

What kinda timescales are we talking about, roughly? One or two months tops ?

carefree · 09-07-2005, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Fox

Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance

Hmmm, even when it was 31/32 degrees my vRS was as fast/responsive with deffo no more soot

08-07-2005, 19:32	#1
Johnwg Turkish Delight Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 2,017 Thanks: 66 Thanked 47 Times in 46 Posts	Warm Weather & the PD 130 Engine Is it just me or is the old 130bhp PD TDi not fond of the warm weather that we have experienced in the North West today . Drove to work this morning when it was cool and it was its usual fairly refined, smooth and powerful self , drove home this evening and it was no where near as responsive and was chucking out a load more soot __________________ 2006: Silver: Octavia II VRS TFSI ESTATE 2002: Green: Audi A6 SE 1.9 TDI AVANT Last edited by Johnwg; 08-07-2005 at 19:46.

08-07-2005, 20:14	#3
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,736 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	It's why I will be signing up for the FMIC GB as soon as Neo_VR has finished help testing it __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

08-07-2005, 21:37	#4
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,123 Thanks: 15 Thanked 327 Times in 285 Posts	It's a result of heat soak. Either go for a FMIC or opt for a water-spray system to keep the existing intercooler ... er ... cooler Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

08-07-2005, 23:20	#6
beeftech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East Posts: 1,528 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Notice mine is lacking somewhat in the heat, but not noticed any excess soot!!! __________________ '05 Corrida Red Fabia vRS: Revo'd to 185Bhp '90 Nugget Yellow Corrado 1.8T: KO4S and 265bhp

08-07-2005, 23:49	#11
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,084 Thanks: 66 Thanked 162 Times in 113 Posts	Its made out of alloy, so ill bet it weighs less than the original (small) sidemount item... it weighs about 2 or 3kg.. Its a front mounted intercooler. it cools the air that goes into the engine Heatsoak is when the engine is affected by the heat of the air going into it.. because hot air is less dense, so doesnt combust as strongly, the engine has to start lowering turbo boost levels and fuelling to keep optimal running.. which to the driver feels like the engine is being lethargic and down on power.. my front mount cools the air alot, so everyday is like a ice cold winter morning for me.. car is always running at its most efficant __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things... Last edited by Neo_VR; 08-07-2005 at 23:52.

08-07-2005, 22:26	#5
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Can you actually see soot in the rear view when you boot it because I dont notice any or a drop in performance

08-07-2005, 23:56	#13
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,016 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is that the 50mm depth version there Colin? - i see the mounting lugs seem to have been adjusted - looks better.. __________________ Was: 2003 Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: 2008 Audi A3 Sportback TDI

09-07-2005, 00:04	#14
*Neo_VR* UberMod™ Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,084 Thanks: 66 Thanked 162 Times in 113 Posts	Matt: yes it is the 50mm ver. mounting lugs are same, but the whole i/c is lower down.. leaves scope for adjustment Johnwg: no worries.. im not exactly up on the tecchy knowledge either.. it looks good and works well... this one is nearing 3x the capacity of the standard side mount.. Its not custom built, its the development model for Forge.. who will be running a briskoda group buy on them soon __________________ ColGod the UberMod VXR, Gti, ST, Type-R, vRS, Cupra, Shifty... An MPS fears not these things...

09-07-2005, 00:30	#17
beeftech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East Posts: 1,528 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Mmmm BFOFMIC!!! Me Want __________________ '05 Corrida Red Fabia vRS: Revo'd to 185Bhp '90 Nugget Yellow Corrado 1.8T: KO4S and 265bhp

09-07-2005, 00:32	#18
Mort Broom Broom! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Derby, England Posts: 1,416 Thanks: 8 Thanked 44 Times in 42 Posts	If possible, please keep testing until my bank account is healthy enough to have my name on the Group Buy. __________________ Fabia v/RS, in Red. Green filter & Cupra Intake, TT brakes, Josh's Sumpguard, Jabba ARB, MOMO strut brace. KW v1's next...

09-07-2005, 08:38	#19
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,736 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	What kinda timescales are we talking about, roughly? One or two months tops ? __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

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