Water ingress mystery - can you solve it?

ultra_joel88 · 21-01-2008, 14:23

Right I have a mystery on my hands.

Sealed up both rear doors a week or so ago.

Today, I opened up the rear doors, the drivers side seems to failed, I think a rivet has popped out below the carrier and water is getting in through there and onto the seal once again, bottom of the door card is soaking.

HOWEVER, on the passenger side there is no water on top of the seal, the bottom of the door card is bone dry and so is the metal below it, normally there would be drips if it was leaking

But when I took the rear scuff plate trim off I found some water under it on the metal part. There is also a SMALL amount of water behind the seal. I lifted up the matt and the carpet in the footwell is soaked.

Now how the hell is the water getting into this side now if the door is sealed up?

Any ideas?

darrenw · 21-01-2008, 14:39

Floor pan grommet popped out?

cheezemonkhai · 21-01-2008, 14:42

Front doors sealed ok?

The water will move backwards as the back of the car is lower than the front.

Failing that try giving the door seals a good clean and putting on some silicon grease to see if that helps reduce the problem. If so then the door seals are not doing their job for some reason. I take it you don't have a sun roof.

ultra_joel88 · 21-01-2008, 15:06

havnt sealed the fronts yet.

na no sun roof.

whers the floorpan grommit?

cheezemonkhai · 21-01-2008, 16:07

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Originally Posted by ultra_joel88

havnt sealed the fronts yet.

na no sun roof.

whers the floorpan grommit?

Wouldn't think there was a grommet in the rear and it would need to be one hell of a leak in a grommet to let the amount of water you are talking about in.

I'd do the front doors next and then dry it all out and see where you get.

Chrispy · 21-01-2008, 16:37

Skoda seal up all 4 doors now as part of the technical update. Doing the rears alone will not be sufficient I'd have thought.

ultra_joel88 · 21-01-2008, 17:16

so once the water is in does it roll around the floorpan?

THe car was parked on an incline, with the leaky side at the top part of the slope, could explain it?

cheezemonkhai · 21-01-2008, 17:22

Well the water once in will move towards the rear on a flat surface so you will need to seal up the fronts.

Once you have done this you will need to get the carpet dry somehow too as otherwise it will stink.

If you have a garage then putting the car in with a hired dehumidier for the weekend would probably do the job.

21-01-2008, 14:23	#1
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 1,936 Thanks: 19 Thanked 64 Times in 62 Posts	Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? Right I have a mystery on my hands. Sealed up both rear doors a week or so ago. Today, I opened up the rear doors, the drivers side seems to failed, I think a rivet has popped out below the carrier and water is getting in through there and onto the seal once again, bottom of the door card is soaking. HOWEVER, on the passenger side there is no water on top of the seal, the bottom of the door card is bone dry and so is the metal below it, normally there would be drips if it was leaking But when I took the rear scuff plate trim off I found some water under it on the metal part. There is also a SMALL amount of water behind the seal. I lifted up the matt and the carpet in the footwell is soaked. Now how the hell is the water getting into this side now if the door is sealed up? Any ideas? __________________ '04 Fabia VRS -Dragon Tuning Box, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, 2.5" Catback and de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can

21-01-2008, 14:39	#2
darrenw Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? Floor pan grommet popped out?

21-01-2008, 14:42	#3
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,769 Thanks: 77 Thanked 341 Times in 315 Posts	Re: Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? Front doors sealed ok? The water will move backwards as the back of the car is lower than the front. Failing that try giving the door seals a good clean and putting on some silicon grease to see if that helps reduce the problem. If so then the door seals are not doing their job for some reason. I take it you don't have a sun roof. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

21-01-2008, 15:06	#4
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 1,936 Thanks: 19 Thanked 64 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? havnt sealed the fronts yet. na no sun roof. whers the floorpan grommit? __________________ '04 Fabia VRS -Dragon Tuning Box, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, 2.5" Catback and de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can

21-01-2008, 16:37	#6
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,708 Thanks: 27 Thanked 64 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? Skoda seal up all 4 doors now as part of the technical update. Doing the rears alone will not be sufficient I'd have thought. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

21-01-2008, 17:16	#7
ultra_joel88 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brecon/ Cardiff Posts: 1,936 Thanks: 19 Thanked 64 Times in 62 Posts	Re: Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? so once the water is in does it roll around the floorpan? THe car was parked on an incline, with the leaky side at the top part of the slope, could explain it? __________________ '04 Fabia VRS -Dragon Tuning Box, 312mm Brakes, Whiteline RARB, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Pipercross Panel Filter & PD160 Intake, Pioneer and Infinity ICE, 2.5" Catback and de-cat, CCV Bypass w/ Catch Can

21-01-2008, 17:22	#8
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 13,769 Thanks: 77 Thanked 341 Times in 315 Posts	Re: Water ingress mystery - can you solve it? Well the water once in will move towards the rear on a flat surface so you will need to seal up the fronts. Once you have done this you will need to get the carpet dry somehow too as otherwise it will stink. If you have a garage then putting the car in with a hired dehumidier for the weekend would probably do the job. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

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