When does the vRS need an overhaul/major major service

[HellFire]

Just wondering really as i'm gauging the at what time I should be selling my vRS around.

When does the turbo need changing, does it have a MAJOR service @ 80,000 miles?

My mate has an Audi 1.8T that has just touched 85k, it's just had a new turbo, clutch, cambelt, oil and filter change and new suspension springs all round

I don't want to be spending that much!! Does the vRS have a major major overhaul at anytime?

[Neo_VR]

Lol..

Depends on so many factors..
80K is the biggy for the fabia.. cambelt service, not cheap.. but other than that service it depends how its been treated/driven to what else needs changing.

[chris_newell41]

after the above recommendations about how the car is driven.....Hellfire you best look for a new car now! if you bought all the parts you needed you might aswell buy a fabia Kit Car!

only jesting of course as I don't know how you drive!

[DRJ]

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

80K is the biggy for the fabia.. cambelt service, not cheap.. but other than that service it depends how its been treated/driven to what else needs changing.

The evidence is different depending where you look.

The Fabia is supposed to be on service schedule QG0 - this requires a belt change at 100,000 miles according to the Service Book.

However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms...

It also state thereon "Diesel engine toothed belt may be subject to change on certain variants due to changes/improvements in productions" just to confuse the situation further...

And if you've got a Petrol engined Fabia the advice on that Checklist is "change as necessary" !!!!!

[Spanner]

I got advised when picking mine up after the 50k service that apparently cambelts are now changed at 60k. Or should that read 'they advise'.

[Lummox]

However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms...


That i the only check list there is.

The left hand colomn is headed QG0, this is for the Fabia. Right hand is for QG1/QG2

Cambelts are the same regardless of the service regime.

Petrol ones are advised to be checked at 60k and 20k thereafter and replaced when required.

And we dont actually carry out the service to the sheet alone anyhow, you use the workshop manuals also. This is all being replaced shortly anyhow when ELSA comes online.

[DGW]

The most expensive service of all is likely to be that at 15 years when all the seatbelts and belt tensioners, plus the airbag system, have to be replaced. That lot would probably cost far more than the car would be worth.

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by DGW

The most expensive service of all is likely to be that at 15 years when all the seatbelts and belt tensioners, plus the airbag system, have to be replaced. That lot would probably cost far more than the car would be worth.

Is this a legal requirement, or just a manufacturers maintenance recommendation? (In 15-years time there probably won't be any oil available to run our Skodas )

[Lummox]

Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about.

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by Lummox

Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about.

I seem to recall that my old Mk4 Golf had a 10-year expiration date on the airbags. More of a "Best before..." date rather than a "Use before..." date. I think it's something to do with the explosive charge that deploys the airbag, with age the material degrades and looses some of its explosive capability ().

[ScoobyChris]

Originally Posted by Lummox

Its been a manufactuers stipulation since airbags come about.

Any idea if this is standard for all manufacturers or where it is likely to be documented? Looking at a banger for SWMBO which may be approaching 10-15 years old!

Chris

[chris_newell41]

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Any idea if this is standard for all manufacturers or where it is likely to be documented? Looking at a banger for SWMBO which may be approaching 10-15 years old!

Chris

not sure may cars had a airbag 10- 15 years ago? im too young to know as I would have been 12!

I wouldn't worry about the air bag, i'm sure there are bigger problems on 10 15 yr old cars to worry about that than that.

how much are new airbags. they arn't cheap are they?

[ScoobyChris]

Originally Posted by chris_newell41

not sure may cars had a airbag 10- 15 years ago? im too young to know as I would have been 12!

I wouldn't worry about the air bag, i'm sure there are bigger problems on 10 15 yr old cars to worry about that than that.

how much are new airbags. they arn't cheap are they?

Ummm - quite a few cars do Bigger problems than the insurance becoming invalidated? And, I suspect, a lot

Might end up looking for cars without airbags now

Chris

[chris_newell41]

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Bigger problems than the insurance becoming invalidated?
Chris

Good point! I think only the more executive car makes will have airbags at that age surely. There will be loads of cars to choose from without.

[ScoobyChris]

Originally Posted by chris_newell41

Good point! I think only the more executive car makes will have airbags at that age surely. There will be loads of cars to choose from without.

Nissan Micra was fitted with a driver's air bag as standard equipment (on all except the L model) from 1st August 1995

Chris

[MikeW]

My old Astra Mark 3 (1995) had an airbag, think they were beginning to get common then.

[DRJ]

Originally Posted by Lummox

DRJ> However the Service Checklist my dealer's marked up for the 20,000 service notes 80,000 miles for PD engines from 08.03 - but it's headed INSPECTION SERVICE SUPERB, OCTAVIA, FABIA (QG1, QG2) - so they appear to be using the wrong forms...


That i the only check list there is.

The left hand colomn is headed QG0, this is for the Fabia. Right hand is for QG1/QG2

Cambelts are the same regardless of the service regime.

Petrol ones are advised to be checked at 60k and 20k thereafter and replaced when required.

And we dont actually carry out the service to the sheet alone anyhow, you use the workshop manuals also. This is all being replaced shortly anyhow when ELSA comes online.

Interesting - and whilst I don't dispute what you say at all, the form I have (SK27) doesn't quite seem to follow what you've outlined.

Certainly there are two columns on the left hand side of the sheet which are headed "20,000 miles/2 year inspection" and "12 months inspection Fabia/Octavia Pre'01 (QC0)" and a single column on the right hand side being a tick list headed "OK". There are tick boxes at the head dealing with variable and fixed. And a section below titled "Additional Operations".

I conclude the operations for the variable servicing regime follow the requirements of the "20,000" service although later on it's noted "Petrol Up to 18,000m (2yr) Diesel Up to 30,000m (2yr). [Certainly makes a diesel cheap to run if it's only having a service every 30,000 miles]

The other side dealing with cambelt changes is clearly headed as I noted before.
Seems like Skoda's Service Sheets are just as confusing as their Service Schedules

[aixlad]

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Nissan Micra was fitted with a driver's air bag as standard equipment (on all except the L model) from 1st August 1995
Chris

My mate bought a brand new Mondeo, K-reg (1992), it had a driver's airbag as standard. I believe the Mondeo was the first "low cost, standard, volume production car sold in the UK" to have a driver's airbag as standard. BTW, a few weeks later he wrapped it up and was certain that the airbag saved his life.

[Lummox]

Originally Posted by DRJ

Seems like Skoda's Service Sheets are just as confusing as their Service Schedules

Exactly, its just as confusing for us sometimes. Just glad im on VW now as we allready have ELSA, I type in the vehicles chassis number and the correct service sheet comes up and all the servicing is logged on the system.

Mazda are doing the same, you dont get a service book with them. The service book is online with Mazda.