would a petrol turbo fabia sell?

[Rally Red 16v]

I've noticed most of the Fabia around on here are VRS ones and that some are tuned alot.

you get a nice reasonably quick and frugal disel with 130hp then spend thousands getting 210hp then oops its not so frugal

how many VRS owners would have bought a 225hp 1.8T or 2.0T engined
fabia?
i gues what i mean is how many diesel VRS's would be sold if they made a petrol turbo one,
Gadge at work has an Ibiza cupra sport and its mental fast it keeps up with my mates R32 to well over a ton i'd love to do that in a fabia

[tfboy]

I think the main reason why Skoda haven't yet released a 1.8T or 2.0T Fabia is because of VAG's commercial strategy. Seat are the chosen ones for "Sports" cars, and Skoda doesn't get any of it. It may all change with the Octy 2 vRS and there was talk about a limited WRC Fabia which sounds mental, but nothing confirmed in writing I think.

Also, a lot of people buy Fabia diesel vRS without thinking that it's a tyre-shredding beast (although it probably is more because of the torque!). It's a very good sportyish car where comfort and refinement hasn't been overlooked. If Skoda made an out-and-out rallye car, not sure a lot of vRS drivers would switch - they like the torque and comfort too much

If you wanted to have a project car and stick a 1.8T in it, it's a hard one because whilst the vRS has the hubs up front for bigger discs, etc, it has the diesel tank which needs swapping. If you start with a 1.x petrol, there'll be possibly less engin-related mechanical work, but more work on the body to beef it up.

Either way, it's not a cheap project

[EddyH]

I'd personally like to see a Fabia with the new 1.4 SuperTurbo engine in. At the right price and with vRS type styling it should be excellent. A good amount of power and torque and light engine up front that would have a big positive effect on handling.

[simon]

If skoda made a 3 door 1.8 (or 2l) turbo I would seriously consider it.

[flatfourburble]

If I didn't do the mileage I did then yes with out a doubt I'd be interested in one, I've been bitten by the skoda bug now!

But, even though my car is tuned to xxxbhp it still will do 50+mpg where as a petrol would many get 40 on a good run.

[devonutopia]

My PD130 conversion was bad enough - not sure how you'd go about a decent 1.8T conversion with a Fabia? Maybe take a written off Cupra Ibiza and transplant 100% of the internals? It was bad enough with another diesel, with me having to 100% rewire and still not got it all sorted yet.

[spinndrift]

They do make one but they're mega bucks second hand and have a silly wing on the back.

Skoda Fabia WRC
ID# : 12022 ; Date posted : August 5, 2005 ; Expire date : July 6, 2007 ;
Factory date: 2004

Price: £250,000

Details: 2004 Gravel Spec. Paddle shift. Zero KM's. Ex works car, chassis no6. Spares and support available if required. Evo2 & Evo3 Octavia's also for sale.



If they made a normal one though I wouldn't have one. I'd never get another Fabia.

[Shifty]

I bought my Vrs because of what it was, a nicely put together sporty diesel hatch. Tuned to xxxbhp, still returns 50+ mpg on a run, and driven hard on the twisties, 25mpg +.

If my car was due for replacement, and a petrol turbo fabia was avaliable in the showroom, then I would seriously consider it. but it would have to impress me to make me buy it. a full wrc kit/decals and 250bhp would sway me

[walkie]

I wouldnt of bought a 1.8t Fabia.

Couldnt afford the insurance and the fuel...

IIRC there's not actually that many people on here producing 210 BHP

But half a grand will see 170-180ish and that will still see a decent return in MPG

[faboka vrs]

Like walkie said. I couldn't afford the insurance and fuel as I live in a high risk area.

[Sallyann]

Apart from anything else, you'd need a bigger fuel tank. The little 45 litre thing needs filling too often even in my 1.4 16v.

Sal

[Neo_VR]

Who says a 200bhp fabia vRS isnt so economical? if anything its MORE economical..

ive got circa 180-190bhp and reguarly get 70mpg on the trip to work, and usually average 55 over a tank.... and not to mention itll show remapped 1.8T cars a very hard time

[Steve Walker]

[quote=Rally Red 16v]I've noticed most of the Fabia around on here are VRS ones and that some are tuned alot. You get a nice reasonably quick and frugal disel with 130hp then spend thousands getting 210hp then oops its not so frugal.

What you get is a car that is real world quick & economy is still good. Remember that on TDis the turbo is only pumping air. How much fuel you use is still down to your right foot.
Insurance? Something tells me a lot are still officially 130bhp!

Would a turbo petrol sell? £12,500 & tuneable to 275bhp with a bit of work. Hell, all the track day nuts would be queueing round the block for that. Me at the front. Trouble is VW Gti sales would fall through the floor.

Steve

[BeezerDiesel]

Well truth be known the nearest thing you have to a petrol 1.8 vRS Fabia is the dear old Ibiza 1.8t FR, which DOESN'T sell like hot cakes. Next up will be the Polo GTI with the 150bhp 1.8t for £15500. Whether this sells like hot cakes is anybody's guess at the moment.
Thing is the Beezer FR is about the same price as the 130 TDI, with similar on road performance (both standard and re-mapped), but is dearer to insure, tax, fuel etc etc.
The Ibiza had the 130 TDI before the Fabia and sold quite well, but the vRS has stolen the march off it somewhat, being better proportioned and value IMO. I would still guess SEAT sell many more TDI FRs than petrol turbo versions though.

[Neo_VR]

Originally Posted by BeezerDiesel

Well truth be known the nearest thing you have to a petrol 1.8 vRS Fabia is the dear old Ibiza 1.8t FR, which DOESN'T sell like hot cakes. Next up will be the Polo GTI with the 150bhp 1.8t for £15500. Whether this sells like hot cakes is anybody's guess at the moment.
Thing is the Beezer FR is about the same price as the 130 TDI, with similar on road performance (both standard and re-mapped), but is dearer to insure, tax, fuel etc etc.
The Ibiza had the 130 TDI before the Fabia and sold quite well, but the vRS has stolen the march off it somewhat, being better proportioned and value IMO. I would still guess SEAT sell many more TDI FRs than petrol turbo versions though.

This is very true.. infact im sure for mk4 ibizas on scn, TDI owners out number petrol owners... about 10-1 even more for the cupra and FR...
the days where diesels were slow and rattly are over... IIRC even the Leon TDI150 is outselling the FR and Cupra R petrol now

[Rally Red 16v]

Originally Posted by devonutopia

My PD130 conversion was bad enough - not sure how you'd go about a decent 1.8T conversion with a Fabia? Maybe take a written off Cupra Ibiza and transplant 100% of the internals? It was bad enough with another diesel, with me having to 100% rewire and still not got it all sorted yet.

i did wonder how much work your swap was. wondered why you didnt fit a 150 or 160.

[Martin Pick]

i would definately like to see the 1.4 TwinCharger engine in a new fabia vRS when it comes out. I think small diesel cars suffer from too much torque sometimes especially with a good remap. Look at the Ibiza PD160. Way too much engine for the chassis. A nice, light, powerful petrol would be great. Don`t get me wrong, i love my vRS but i may well have a petrol again for my next car.

[WW_VRS]

The PD130 lump is heavy - that's one of the main problems with the Furby vRS. If the engine was less heavy the handling would be better, for sure.

I am hoping that the Eibachs will improve things considerably on that front though

[walkie]

Originally Posted by WW_VRS

I am hoping that the Eibachs will improve things considerably on that front though

Oh god yes! Without a doubt - trust me

[devonutopia]

Originally Posted by Rally Red 16v

i did wonder how much work your swap was. wondered why you didnt fit a 150 or 160.

150 isn't that much different, and 160 is due to FMIC - and as I have got the turbo and FMIC at the same time, I essentially do have a 150 at the moment. Will find out tomorrow.

But was mega work.