Factory weight?

john_grant358 · 19-11-2007, 13:06

Whats the factory weight of the fabia vrs?

youngsyd · 19-11-2007, 13:26

Bloody heavy!

If i remember, about 64kg heavier than a mk4 golf, or an ibiza, something like that!

vrs jamez27 · 19-11-2007, 13:41

1315 kgs if i remember correct

Mattcooper79 · 21-11-2007, 22:07

I know all the info about the car says its 1315kgs but how can it be so much heavier than other cars from the same stable with very similar specs. sites quote Ibiza FR 1.9 tdi @ just over 1200 kgs

Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI FR | UK New Car Research

Matt

Philip26 · 22-11-2007, 00:32

Two extras doors...I've had mine on a Weighbridge and it IS 1315Kg.

Mattcooper79 · 22-11-2007, 08:17

1208KG according to seat is for the 5 door version and 1180KG for the 3 door fr tdi 1.9

I dont doubt anybody who has had their cars weighed, wonder where the extra 100KG comes from

Matt

Fab vRS · 23-11-2007, 12:20

The vRS brochue says 1315Kg.

BUT!

"Figures are for vehicle carrying average load and three passengers."

How much does a driver and 3 passengers and an 'average load' weigh?

200Kg?

The Fabia should not weigh MUCH more than the Seat Ibiza 1.9 because it's the same car other than extra doors.

I think the Seat weighs 1260Kg but I don't know if the Seat weight includes the passengers too and load too?

oilburninnut · 23-11-2007, 18:13

mine was 1180kg on a wieghbridge with no driver and nearly no fuel,that was this evening

devonutopia · 23-11-2007, 18:28

I'm going to have to get the mongrel weighed after her next weight stripping exercise. Need to get an accurate BHP per ton.

Chrispy · 23-11-2007, 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilburninnut

mine was 1180kg on a wieghbridge with no driver and nearly no fuel,that was this evening

Hmm.......and Phillip26 reckons his was 1315kg......

It's odd how it's such a heavy bugger. My 318iS weighed 1270kg and that was a much bigger car. 1.8 16v petrol engine though, although it did have an iron block.

Having said that, fitted new discs and pads the other day. The discs were pretty heavy. Dread to think what 312's feel like.

oilburninnut · 23-11-2007, 19:45

mine has the 312's on too,and the bridge i wieghed on was deadly accurate,its used to wiegh non ferrus metals in so its well accurate,may do a confirmation on another bridge on my way home tommorow

Mattcooper79 · 23-11-2007, 21:28

1180kg sounds like a much more sensible weight rather than the 1315kg shown in the spec.

That would also correlate with the Ibiza and Polo kerb weights.
But why bother over estimating so much

Matt

Chrispy · 23-11-2007, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattcooper79

1180kg sounds like a much more sensible weight rather than the 1315kg shown in the spec.

That would also correlate with the Ibiza and Polo kerb weights.
But why bother over estimating so much

Matt

Thing is, the Ibiza FR (apart from different styling, a 3 door version and stiffer suspension) is otherwise no different to the Fabia and so costs more. Perhaps it's a marketing ploy? Having said that, it's something they don't publicise so maybe not.

I agree though, something doesn't add up. Same chassis, same lump, same ancilliaries, similar interiors etc etc. I'd love for an Ibiza/ Polo owner to go to a weighbridge. Anyone a member of a Seat forum?

oilburninnut · 23-11-2007, 21:44

don't think it is an overestimate,i think it is done with an average load in it,mine would wiegh 1280 with me in it,add 40 litres of fuel and your not far off 1315kg are you?

Mattcooper79 · 23-11-2007, 21:47

the Ibiza FR is available in 5 Door, just rare as rocking horse ****County Garage -||- For Sale: SEAT Ibiza 1.9 TDi 130 FR 5 Door. When i was looking at the VRS the seat salesman assured me he could get me a used one.

Like Crispy notes, an accurate weight of FR and Polo would be very useful

oilburninnut · 23-11-2007, 21:50

a group wiegh? i couldn't put my little furby thru the torture

she might develope issues

Chrispy · 23-11-2007, 21:53

So, would this mean with an average load, a driver and some fuel in it, the Polo/ Ibiza wouldn't be far off the same? I'm curious now.

The MKIV Golf was a different chassis and so can't really be compared. Mad though how it's that much lighter.

oilburninnut · 23-11-2007, 21:56

don't know,i think the fabia is heavy,the other quoted figures would be under the same conditions,so the fabia would still end up being 200kilo's heavier than the polo/ibiza

Chrispy · 23-11-2007, 21:58

I wonder how? Do the Czechs fill the sills with lead or make the body panels a few mm thicker than the Spaniards/ Germans?

Wierd, definitely wierd.

Mattcooper79 · 23-11-2007, 22:03

200kgs is a huge amount to gain if weighed under the same conditions dont you think. Considering the vast majority of parts are identical.

Do you think its to mask possible conservative perfoemance figures???

19-11-2007, 13:06	#1
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21-11-2007, 22:07	#4
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Factory weight? I know all the info about the car says its 1315kgs but how can it be so much heavier than other cars from the same stable with very similar specs. sites quote Ibiza FR 1.9 tdi @ just over 1200 kgs Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDI FR \| UK New Car Research Matt

22-11-2007, 00:32	#5
Philip26 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chester Posts: 240 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Factory weight? Two extras doors...I've had mine on a Weighbridge and it IS 1315Kg. __________________ Philip Nurburgring Tourist 2006 Oulton Park Trackdays: 03/11/06, 26/06/07, 02/11/07 VRS now Jabba'd - Stutter & (Nearly) Smoke free

22-11-2007, 08:17	#6
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Factory weight? 1208KG according to seat is for the 5 door version and 1180KG for the 3 door fr tdi 1.9 I dont doubt anybody who has had their cars weighed, wonder where the extra 100KG comes from Matt

23-11-2007, 12:20	#7
Fab vRS Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 161 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Factory weight? The vRS brochue says 1315Kg. BUT! "Figures are for vehicle carrying average load and three passengers." How much does a driver and 3 passengers and an 'average load' weigh? 200Kg? The Fabia should not weigh MUCH more than the Seat Ibiza 1.9 because it's the same car other than extra doors. I think the Seat weighs 1260Kg but I don't know if the Seat weight includes the passengers too and load too?

23-11-2007, 18:13	#8
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,515 Thanks: 147 Thanked 130 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Factory weight? mine was 1180kg on a wieghbridge with no driver and nearly no fuel,that was this evening __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

23-11-2007, 18:28	#9
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,506 Thanks: 60 Thanked 308 Times in 253 Posts	Re: Factory weight? I'm going to have to get the mongrel weighed after her next weight stripping exercise. Need to get an accurate BHP per ton. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

23-11-2007, 19:45	#11
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,515 Thanks: 147 Thanked 130 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Factory weight? mine has the 312's on too,and the bridge i wieghed on was deadly accurate,its used to wiegh non ferrus metals in so its well accurate,may do a confirmation on another bridge on my way home tommorow __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

23-11-2007, 21:28	#12
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Factory weight? 1180kg sounds like a much more sensible weight rather than the 1315kg shown in the spec. That would also correlate with the Ibiza and Polo kerb weights. But why bother over estimating so much Matt

23-11-2007, 21:44	#14
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,515 Thanks: 147 Thanked 130 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Factory weight? don't think it is an overestimate,i think it is done with an average load in it,mine would wiegh 1280 with me in it,add 40 litres of fuel and your not far off 1315kg are you? __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

23-11-2007, 21:47	#15
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Factory weight? the Ibiza FR is available in 5 Door, just rare as rocking horse ****County Garage -\|\|- For Sale: SEAT Ibiza 1.9 TDi 130 FR 5 Door. When i was looking at the VRS the seat salesman assured me he could get me a used one. Like Crispy notes, an accurate weight of FR and Polo would be very useful

23-11-2007, 21:50	#16
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,515 Thanks: 147 Thanked 130 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Factory weight? a group wiegh? i couldn't put my little furby thru the tortureshe might develope issues __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

23-11-2007, 21:53	#17
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Factory weight? So, would this mean with an average load, a driver and some fuel in it, the Polo/ Ibiza wouldn't be far off the same? I'm curious now. The MKIV Golf was a different chassis and so can't really be compared. Mad though how it's that much lighter. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

23-11-2007, 21:56	#18
oilburninnut Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,515 Thanks: 147 Thanked 130 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Factory weight? don't know,i think the fabia is heavy,the other quoted figures would be under the same conditions,so the fabia would still end up being 200kilo's heavier than the polo/ibiza __________________ Gary www.dogboxmedia.co.uk

23-11-2007, 21:58	#19
Chrispy I said HOT DAMN Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Normanton, West Yorks Posts: 1,748 Thanks: 38 Thanked 68 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Factory weight? I wonder how? Do the Czechs fill the sills with lead or make the body panels a few mm thicker than the Spaniards/ Germans? Wierd, definitely wierd. __________________ Silver '04 Fabia vRS. Jabba Custom Remap, Seat Surgeons Leather interior, Whiteline RARB, Cupra Console Bushes

23-11-2007, 22:03	#20
Mattcooper79 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: milton keynes Posts: 171 Thanks: 2 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Factory weight? 200kgs is a huge amount to gain if weighed under the same conditions dont you think. Considering the vast majority of parts are identical. Do you think its to mask possible conservative perfoemance figures???

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