strut top bolts torque

mcbunny · 06-01-2006, 10:36

what should the strut top bolts be torqued too anyone know ???

devonutopia · 06-01-2006, 10:55

I did mine to as tight as I could get them with a fairly small wrench (piddly one with 12" handle)

SteVRs · 06-01-2006, 11:53

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Originally Posted by devonutopia

I did mine to as tight as I could get them with a fairly small wrench (piddly one with 12" handle)

Me too - that was over 10K ago and they're still on

Asked the Seat dealer what torque and he said 'Tight as you can'.

mcbunny · 06-01-2006, 12:20

lol great i will blame you if the next owner kill them selfs

AndyVRS · 06-01-2006, 13:53

Just tighten them down as hard as you can and check them in a couple of days should be fine. Prob won't need to check them but always do same sort of idea with wheel bolts

ScoobyChris · 06-01-2006, 14:09

Pretty sure it says 25Nm in the fitting instructions for the Seat strut brace - no idea if it's the same with/without the brace?

Chris

SteVRs · 06-01-2006, 15:43

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Originally Posted by AndyVRS

Just tighten them down as hard as you can and check them in a couple of days should be fine. Prob won't need to check them but always do same sort of idea with wheel bolts

That's a really good point - worth doing for anything you bolt that your life relys on.

Chavyboy · 06-01-2006, 16:04

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Originally Posted by mcbunny

what should the strut top bolts be torqued too anyone know ???

Finger tight should do it

ChrisRs · 06-01-2006, 17:07

Tight as you can !! No need for a torque setting

RallyRed · 06-01-2006, 17:41

i did mine as tight as i had found them they were alot easier to undo than id expected ie they werent on very tight

Cheekymonkey · 06-01-2006, 18:36

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Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

Pretty sure it says 25Nm in the fitting instructions for the Seat strut brace - no idea if it's the same with/without the brace?

Chris

I think it's 25 lb/ft... that's what I tighten to anyway. It's certainly not as hard as you can! Don't want to strip the threads out of the shock tower!

aixlad · 06-01-2006, 22:31

The instructions that come with the SEAT Sport Strut Brace states that the bolts should be torqued to 25Nm. This is certainly not as tight as you can get them! If you overtighten them and strip the threads, then you'll be extremely upset, and much much poorer.

(Hint: Buy a Torque Wrench, and have the satisfaction of knowing that the job has been done correctly

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Lummox · 06-01-2006, 22:37

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Originally Posted by aixlad

This is certainly not as tight as you can get them! If you overtighten them and strip the threads, then you'll be extremely upset, and much much poorer.)

One of the most sensible and right things i've ever read on this site.

Its an M8 bolt for christ sake..lol

aixlad · 06-01-2006, 23:24

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Originally Posted by Lummox

One of the most sensible and right things i've ever read on this site.

Its an M8 bolt for christ sake..lol

Taking this topic even further, the technical community may appreciate this point of interest.

Bolts, such as those used for the top suspension strut fixing, are stamped with a Relative Strength Marking, and in the case of the Fabia bolt this marking is 10.9. At this strength, the maximum torque which this bolt can safely withstand, before risk of failure, is just 35Nm. So unless you can accurately judge 25Nm without enthusiastically going over, and beyond the 35Nm safe limit, you really should be using a torque wrench. Tightening it up as tight as you can would in my opinion be just as dangerous as not tightening it at all. I'm quite surprised at the number of posts in this thread where crude Agricultural Engineering practices have been used.

devonutopia · 06-01-2006, 23:35

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Originally Posted by Lummox

One of the most sensible and right things i've ever read on this site.

Its an M8 bolt for christ sake..lol

Which is why I'd never use my draper wrench on it. My mini-me wrench [sticks little finger in curled position to mouth] is incapable of tightening to more than 25nm I reckon.

Cheekymonkey · 07-01-2006, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Cheekymonkey

I think it's 25 lb/ft... that's what I tighten to anyway. It's certainly not as hard as you can! Don't want to strip the threads out of the shock tower!

I'm going to loosen mine off a tad then... used the wrong units, although still with a torque wrench. 25lb/ft = 33Nm so just inside the safe range - shouldn't have done any damage... I hope!

Lummox · 07-01-2006, 11:06

I'd be suprised if it was 25lbft. All torques are given as nm (europe is metric after all) in workshop manuals ans fitting instructions for accesories.

aixlad · 08-01-2006, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Cheekymonkey

I'm going to loosen mine off a tad then... used the wrong units, although still with a torque wrench. 25lb/ft = 33Nm so just inside the safe range - shouldn't have done any damage... I hope!

If you tightened them beyond the recommended 25Nm, then you may well have reached the yield point of the material, so you might be better off to leave them well alone for now, after all they are unlikely to drop out!

devonutopia · 08-01-2006, 10:07

Did a couple of mine yesterday as I had to loosen off one end of my strut brace to access the filter box easier. I was wrong about m wrench - Its got about an 8" handle - also found I'd stripped out my 13mm socket (cheap cr4p I guess) - but conveniently found my 17/32" in the same set was unused and fitted well too.

Tightening up with that piddly wrench can't have made them any tighter than 25Nm.

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AndyVRS Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 158 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: strut top bolts torque Just tighten them down as hard as you can and check them in a couple of days should be fine. Prob won't need to check them but always do same sort of idea with wheel bolts

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ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,131 Thanks: 15 Thanked 327 Times in 285 Posts	Re: strut top bolts torque Pretty sure it says 25Nm in the fitting instructions for the Seat strut brace - no idea if it's the same with/without the brace? Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

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aixlad Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: /usr/bin/whereis `whoami` Posts: 554 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: strut top bolts torque The instructions that come with the SEAT Sport Strut Brace states that the bolts should be torqued to 25Nm. This is certainly not as tight as you can get them! If you overtighten them and strip the threads, then you'll be extremely upset, and much much poorer. (Hint: Buy a Torque Wrench, and have the satisfaction of knowing that the job has been done correctly ) __________________ I'm the only Skoda driver in the village! 4 Wheeler: Black Magic Fabia vRS, MSD Grill, SEAT Strut Brace, ESP, Side Airbags, Cruise Control, 3rd Rear Headrest. 2 Wheeler: Triumph Thunderbird Sport

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Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,885 Thanks: 22 Thanked 667 Times in 562 Posts	Re: strut top bolts torque I'd be suprised if it was 25lbft. All torques are given as nm (europe is metric after all) in workshop manuals ans fitting instructions for accesories. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services Cupra Console Bushes Servicing Modifications PM for information

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,517 Thanks: 61 Thanked 308 Times in 253 Posts	Re: strut top bolts torque Did a couple of mine yesterday as I had to loosen off one end of my strut brace to access the filter box easier. I was wrong about m wrench - Its got about an 8" handle - also found I'd stripped out my 13mm socket (cheap cr4p I guess) - but conveniently found my 17/32" in the same set was unused and fitted well too. Tightening up with that piddly wrench can't have made them any tighter than 25Nm. __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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